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# m08 #28

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15 Dec 2008, 02:07
AFAIK, in any official GMAT question, if an answer of a data sufficiency test is D, both statement must yield the same result. Here are the question:

The average of four distinct positive integers is 60. How many integers of these four are smaller than 50?

(1) One of the integers is 200
(2) The median of the four integers is 50

The answer is indeed D because it's sufficient to answer the question using any of the statement, however if you count it, statement (1) yield 3 but statement (2) yield 2. Could the test writer correct this minor problem?
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05 Jan 2009, 06:08
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We know definitely that a is less than 50 because in order to find the median the numbers go in order(smaller to larger). So if b+c=100 then definitely b is smaller than 50 and c is larger than 50 having d also larger than 50.

Note that the question says "distinct" so b or c cannot be 50.
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15 Dec 2008, 05:13
If both statements are sufficicient to solve the qs , and if they yield different answers, is the solution to the qs E ? or is it D ?
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15 Dec 2008, 05:16
I believe you won't get a question like this on the real GMAT. I believe the approach to DS questions is that there is a single problem and you are given 2 pieces of information to the same problem. One may not apply and therefore is insufficient, but if both give you an answer, then I believe the answers should be consistent. Can you state the source of this question? I will be surprised if it is an OG question.
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03 Aug 2010, 20:48
ozzie123 wrote:
AFAIK, in any official GMAT question, if an answer of a data sufficiency test is D, both statement must yield the same result. Here are the question:

The average of four distinct positive integers is 60. How many integers of these four are smaller than 50?

(1) One of the integers is 200
(2) The median of the four integers is 50

The answer is indeed D because it's sufficient to answer the question using any of the statement, however if you count it, statement (1) yield 3 but statement (2) yield 2. Could the test writer correct this minor problem?

May I ask why a error found in December 2008 has not been rectified ?
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04 Aug 2010, 06:11
jallenmorris wrote:
What do you mean?

nikhilkatira wrote:
ozzie123 wrote:
AFAIK, in any official GMAT question, if an answer of a data sufficiency test is D, both statement must yield the same result. Here are the question:

The average of four distinct positive integers is 60. How many integers of these four are smaller than 50?

(1) One of the integers is 200
(2) The median of the four integers is 50

The answer is indeed D because it's sufficient to answer the question using any of the statement, however if you count it, statement (1) yield 3 but statement (2) yield 2. Could the test writer correct this minor problem?

May I ask why a error found in December 2008 has not been rectified ?

I mean in any official GMAT question, if an answer of a data sufficiency test is D, both statement must yield the same result, So this question needs rectification.

This error was found in 2008
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04 Aug 2010, 07:29
nikhilkatira,

I don't think that the original question in 2008 is an Official GMAT question.
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01 Oct 2010, 07:06
Is this a wrong question? It is possible that the answer is D but the S1 gives Ans =3 BUT S2 gives Ans = 2. How can S1 & S2 contradict each other ??
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29 Mar 2011, 11:54
In official GMAT questions, the statements don't contradict each other. This rule can be a great help and it is a bit misleading that this particular GMATClub-question doesn't follow it. Nevertheless, the majority of the GMATClub-questions are awesome, so thanks and keep up the great work!
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