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Is |X+1|<2?

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Would someone please explain to me what the simplest way of solving this problem is?
1) From S1, is there a quick way to come to the conclusion that 0<x<2
2) From S2, is there a quick way to come to the conclusion that -2<X< square root of 2
3) When the question asks if |X+1|< 2, do we conclude that it is asking if X is either <1 OR <-3?

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Re: m20 # 33 [#permalink] New post 28 Feb 2009, 23:02
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IMO A
as (1) is SUFFICIENT

from (1), we get 1<x<2
from (2), we get 0<x<1.414

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Would someone please explain to me what the simplest way of solving this problem is?
1) From S1, is there a quick way to come to the conclusion that 0<x<2
2) From S2, is there a quick way to come to the conclusion that -2<X< square root of 2
3) When the question asks if |X+1|< 2, do we conclude that it is asking if X is either <1 OR <-3?

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Re: m20 # 33 [#permalink] New post 10 Mar 2009, 20:50
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Would someone please explain to me what the simplest way of solving this problem is?
1) From S1, is there a quick way to come to the conclusion that 0<x<2
2) From S2, is there a quick way to come to the conclusion that -2<X< square root of 2
3) When the question asks if |X+1|< 2, do we conclude that it is asking if X is either <1 OR >-3?

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Is |X+1|<2?

1) (X-1)^2 < 1
2) X^2-2 < 0



1) From S1, is there a quick way to come to the conclusion that 0<x<2
(x-1)^2 < 1
(x-1) < 1
x < 2

(x-1) > -1
x > 0

sufff....

2) From S2, is there a quick way to come to the conclusion that -2<X< square root of 2
x^2 - 2 < 0
x^2 < 2
x < sqrt2 or x > -sqrt2

insuff..........

3) When the question asks if |X+1|< 2, do we conclude that it is asking if X is either <1 OR >-3? yes, |x+1|< 2 means -3< x <1.

This is how it is solved:

If |x+1| is +ve, (x+1) < 2.
Or, x < 2-1
Or, x < 1

If |x+1| is -ve, -(x+1) < 2.
Or, -(x+1) < 2.
Or, -x-1 < 2.
Or, -2-1 < x
Or, -3 < x

Hence -3 < x < 1. :-D
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Re: m20 # 33 Kudos? [#permalink] New post 12 Mar 2009, 10:03
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Re: m20 # 33 [#permalink] New post 28 Apr 2009, 00:29
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maybe I'm having a brainfart, but I think the answer is E

(1) 0<x<2
(2) -sqrt(2)<x<sqrt(2)

we need to know if -3<x<1

(1) and (2) tells us nothing that can be definite proof.

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Re: m20 # 33 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2010, 06:45
Is |X+1|<2?

1. (X-1)^2 < 1
2. X^2-2 < 0

E.

We have to have -3 < x < 1

1. Consider x=1.1. (1.1-1)^2 = .1^2 = 0.01 (less than one) falls outside -3 < x < 1
Also consider 0.1. (0.1-1)^2 = (-0.5)^2 = .25 (less than one) falls inside -3 < x < 1

This is insuff because it can fall in and it can fall out of our -3 < x < 1.

2. Consider x = 1.1. 1.1^2 - 2 = 1.21 - 2 = (less than 0) falls outside -3 < x < 1
Also Consider x = 0.1. .1^2 - 2 = 0.01 - 2 = (less than 0) falls inside -3 < x < 1

This is insuff because it can fall in and it can fall out of our -3 < x < 1.


Also remember you aren't answering "Is |X+1|<2?". You are answering if 1 or 2 can answer that question.
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Re: m20 # 33 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2010, 10:58
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is |x+1|<2 can be rewritten as

x+1<2 or -x-1<2

x<1 or x>-3

1)(x-1)^2<1
(x-1)<1
x<2 so insufficient

2)x^2-2<0
x+\sqrt{2} x-\sqrt{2} <0
x+\sqrt{2} <0 or x-\sqrt{2}<0
x<-1.414 or x<1.414
so insufficient

combining both 1 and 2 x can still be 1.2 or 0.5 so both are also insufficient

so ans is E
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Re: m20 # 33 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2010, 11:35
Ans is E

Q is if -3<X<1

1 gives 0<x<2
2 gives -sqroot(2) < X < sqroot(2)
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Re: m20 # 33 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2010, 20:51
what is OA

for me ANS is : E

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Re: m20 # 33 [#permalink] New post 08 Mar 2010, 11:38
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maybe I'm having a brainfart, but I think the answer is E

(1) 0<x<2
(2) -sqrt(2)<x<sqrt(2)

we need to know if -3<x<1

(1) and (2) tells us nothing that can be definite proof.


Absolutely right. So E is the answer.

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Re: m20 # 33 [#permalink] New post 13 Mar 2010, 06:08
Yes E is the answer.
Both statements 1 and 2 give us that X can be atleast 1 or 0. If X = 1 it fails and if X = 0 it passes the |X+1|^2 test. Hence data is not sufficient even with both.

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Re: m20 # 33 [#permalink] New post 07 Sep 2010, 22:54
Its E.

Question: It becomes -3<x<1

1) Solving 1 says 0<x<2 Insufficient
2) Solving 2 says x< sqrt2 Insufficient
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Re: m20 # 33 [#permalink] New post 10 Mar 2011, 07:05
|x+1| < 2

x + 1 < 2 or -x-1 < 2

x < 1 or x > -3

From (1)

(x - 1)^2 < 1

x^2 -2x + 1 < 1

=> x(x-2) < 0

So 0 < x < 2, so not enough

From (2)

-1.4 < x < 1.4, so not enough

From (1) and (2) also, not enough as x can fall in 1 < x < 1.4, so answer is E.

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Re: m20 # 33 [#permalink] New post 13 Mar 2012, 16:22
IMO E.

Both the conditions are not sufficient to conclude.
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Re: m20 # 33 [#permalink] New post 16 Apr 2012, 13:43
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Most authors agree that the stem asks if -3<x<1, me too.

However, since it seems that most posts struggle with the first statement, here is my take.

(1) states (x-1)2 < 1

If (x-1)2 < 1, then most would agree that (x-1)2 is also either equal or greater than 0, since squares cannot be negative.

0<= (x-1)2 < 1 is what needs to be solved.

(x-1)(x-1) < 1
x2 - 2x + 1 < 1
x2 - 2x < 0
x2 < 2x

At this point we can see that 0 < x <= 1, which makes this statement insufficient as x, per stem cannot be 1.

(2) x < sqrt2 or x > -sqrt2

(C) To analyze them together, we have to look at both.
0 < x <= 1
(-1.41) -sqrt2 < x < sqrt2 (1.41)

Here we can see, that 1 is still part of both, which makes this question E.
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Re: m20 # 33 [#permalink] New post 25 Apr 2012, 06:56
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Question:

Is |X+1|<2?

1. (X-1)^2 < 1
2. X^2-2 < 0

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Would someone please explain to me what the simplest way of solving this problem is?
1) From S1, is there a quick way to come to the conclusion that 0<x<2
2) From S2, is there a quick way to come to the conclusion that -2<X< square root of 2
3) When the question asks if |X+1|< 2, do we conclude that it is asking if X is either <1 OR <-3?

Thank you.



let me know if my method is OKay...though it is learnt now only by going through the above observations and my own calculations

1) (x-1)sq < 1
(x-1) < + or - 1
so x-1 is between - 1 to +1
hence x is between 0 to 2 ( exclusive)
so it can take the value 1 , then the solution gives YES
if it takes 1.99, then the solution gives NO

hence insufficient... A and D are gone

2) xsq - 2 < 0

xsq < 2
x is between -1.41 to + 1.41, so this also gives both YES and NO as answer
so B is gone too

answer should be b/w C and E

taking together

x would now be between o and 1.41
so here too we get YES and NO for the solution, hence E is the answer

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let me know if my method is OKay...though it is learnt now only by going through the above observations and my own calculations

1) (x-1)sq < 1
(x-1) < + or - 1
so x-1 is between - 1 to +1
hence x is between 0 to 2 ( exclusive)
so it can take the value 1 , then the solution gives YES
if it takes 1.99, then the solution gives NO

hence insufficient... A and D are gone

2) xsq - 2 < 0

xsq < 2
x is between -1.41 to + 1.41, so this also gives both YES and NO as answer
so B is gone too

answer should be b/w C and E

taking together

x would now be between o and 1.41
so here too we get YES and NO for the solution, hence E is the answer


Yes, your solution is correct.

Is |x+1|<2?

Is |x+1|<2? --> is -3<x<1?

(1) (x-1)^2 < 1 --> since both sides of the inequality are non-negative we can take square root from it: |x-1|<1 --> 0<x<2. Not sufficient.

(2) x^2-2 < 0 --> x^2<2 --> again, since both sides of the inequality are non-negative we can take square root from it: |x|<1.4 (approximately) --> -1.4<x<1.4. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) Intersection of the ranges from (1) and (2) is 0<x<1.4. So, x could be in the range -3<x<1 (for example if x=1) as well as out of the range -3<x<1 (for example if x=1.2). Not sufficient.

Answer: E.

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Re: m20 # 33 [#permalink] New post 15 Mar 2013, 19:52
Complete solution of the problem,

Given in question stem,

|X+1|< 2

If, (X+1)< 0
-(X+1) < 2
X+1 > -2
X > -3

If(X+1) > 0
(X+1) > 2
X > 1

So we have to check that if any equation proves -3 < X < 1, that will be sufficient condition

I - (X -1)^2 < 1
(X -1 ) < 1 or (X - 1) > -1

On solving, 0 < X < 2

This is not sufficient condition, So A and D are incorrect choices.

II - X^2 -2 < 0
X^2 < 2

On solving, \sqrt{-2} < X < \sqrt{2}

This is not sufficient condition, So B and D are incorrect choices.


I and II together,

0 < X < \sqrt{2}

This is also not sufficient, so Ans is E
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