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NothingComes3asy wrote:
How are you supposed to know 211 is prime is 2 min? I have no idea. Yes you can check numbers up to 20, but how do we know?


For primality, all you need to do is to check for divisibility of the number in question by prime numbers from 2 to \(\sqrt{number}\)

Example, for checking primality of 211 ---> \(\sqrt {211}\) \(\approx\) 15 (but less than 15, you need to remember square of numbers 1 to 20 and cubes of 1 to 10 for GMAT). Thus you need to check divisibility of 211 by prime numbers from 2 to 14 (=2,3,5,7,11,13)

For this, remember the divisibility tests --->

211 is NOT even ---> eliminate 2,4,6,8,10,12,14
211 by 3 ---> sum of the digits \(\neq\) divisible by 3 ---> eliminate 3,6,9,12
211 by 5---> does not end in 5 or 0 ---> eliminate 5 and 10
211 by 7 ---> 210 is clearly divisible by 7 --> 211 can not be divisible by 7 ---> eliminate 7 and 14.
211 by 11 ---> |sum of odd place digits - sum of even place digits| = |2+1-1| = 2 = NOT a multiple of 11 ---> eliminate 11
211 by 13 ---> regular division is the only way ---> 130 is a multiple of 13 and 211 is 81 more than 13 ---> as 81 is NOT a multiple of 13 ---> eliminate 13.

Thus, 211 IS a prime number.

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NothingComes3asy wrote:
How are you supposed to know 211 is prime is 2 min? I have no idea. Yes you can check numbers up to 20, but how do we know?


you can use following formula to determine validity of prime
for any prime no>3 it can expressed as p=6n+1 or p=6n-1 ; n is the +ve integer value


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NothingComes3asy wrote:
How are you supposed to know 211 is prime is 2 min? I have no idea. Yes you can check numbers up to 20, but how do we know?


you can use following formula to determine validity of prime
for any prime no>3 it can expressed as p=6n+1 or p=6n-1 ; n is the +ve integer value


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First of all there is no known formula of prime numbers.

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Any prime number p, which is greater than 3, when divided by 6 can only give the remainder of 1 or 5 (remainder cannot be 2 or 4 as in this case p would be even and the remainder cannot be 3 as in this case p would be divisible by 3).

So, any prime number p, which is greater than 3, could be expressed as \(p=6n+1\) or \(p=6n+5\) or \(p=6n-1\), where n is an integer greater than 1.

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Not all number which yield a remainder of 1 or 5 upon division by 6 are primes, so vise-versa of the above property is not true. For example 25 yields the remainder of 1 upon division be 6 and it's not a prime number.

Hope it's clear.
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I have edited the question and the solution by adding more details to enhance its clarity. I hope it is now easier to understand.
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What is the largest prime number that can be obtained by adding three 2-digit numbers formed from the list {1, 3, 6, 7, 7, 7}?

A. 97
B. 151
C. 209
D. 211
E. 219


What is the largest possible sum of three 2-digit numbers that can be formed using the numbers {1, 3, 6, 7, 7, 7}? To find the maximum sum, we start by maximizing the first digit of each number. We try 76, 73, and 71, which gives us a sum of 220, but since it's even, it cannot be a prime number.

Next, we try the next largest sum by switching the digits in 76 to get 67, giving us the numbers 67, 73, and 71. We then need to check whether the sum of these three numbers, which is 211, is a prime number.

The most efficient way to prove that a large enough positive integer \(x\) is prime, is to prove that it cannot be divided by any primes up to \(\sqrt{x}\). Therefore, to prove that 211 is prime, we need to prove that it cannot be divided by any primes up to \(\sqrt{211}\), which is less than 15 (since \(15^2 = 225\)). It is easy to see that 211 is not divisible by 2, 3, or 5. Therefore, we need to check divisibility by 7, 11, and 13. To check whether 211 is divisible by any of the primes 7, 11, or 13, we find easily identifiable multiples of these primes close to 211. We find that 210 = 7*30 is a multiple of 7, so 211 is not divisible by 7. 220 = 11*20 is a multiple of 11, so 211 is not divisible by 11. 260 = 13*20 is a multiple of 13, so is 260 - 13*4 = 208, thus 211 is not divisible by 13 either. Therefore, 211 is not divisible by any primes up to \(\sqrt{211}\), so it must be a prime number.


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Hey Bunuel, why have you not considered repeated numbers i.e [77, 77, and some other number] (cause if all three are same then it won't be prime)? Cause the question didn't mentioned anything about repeated numbers.
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Bunuel wrote:
Official Solution:

What is the largest prime number that can be obtained by adding three 2-digit numbers formed from the list {1, 3, 6, 7, 7, 7}?

A. 97
B. 151
C. 209
D. 211
E. 219


What is the largest possible sum of three 2-digit numbers that can be formed using the numbers {1, 3, 6, 7, 7, 7}? To find the maximum sum, we start by maximizing the first digit of each number. We try 76, 73, and 71, which gives us a sum of 220, but since it's even, it cannot be a prime number.

Next, we try the next largest sum by switching the digits in 76 to get 67, giving us the numbers 67, 73, and 71. We then need to check whether the sum of these three numbers, which is 211, is a prime number.

The most efficient way to prove that a large enough positive integer \(x\) is prime, is to prove that it cannot be divided by any primes up to \(\sqrt{x}\). Therefore, to prove that 211 is prime, we need to prove that it cannot be divided by any primes up to \(\sqrt{211}\), which is less than 15 (since \(15^2 = 225\)). It is easy to see that 211 is not divisible by 2, 3, or 5. Therefore, we need to check divisibility by 7, 11, and 13. To check whether 211 is divisible by any of the primes 7, 11, or 13, we find easily identifiable multiples of these primes close to 211. We find that 210 = 7*30 is a multiple of 7, so 211 is not divisible by 7. 220 = 11*20 is a multiple of 11, so 211 is not divisible by 11. 260 = 13*20 is a multiple of 13, so is 260 - 13*4 = 208, thus 211 is not divisible by 13 either. Therefore, 211 is not divisible by any primes up to \(\sqrt{211}\), so it must be a prime number.


Answer: D



Hey Bunuel, why have you not considered repeated numbers i.e [77, 77, and some other number] (cause if all three are same then it won't be prime)? Cause the question didn't mentioned anything about repeated numbers.


First, notice that we have three 7s, not four. We aim to get the highest total from three 2-digit numbers, so we need to increase the tens place in each number. That's why we're using all three 7s in the tens place.
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The question is not clear whether we are allowed to re-use the same number in the set. If it is allowed-->then 77+76+66 is 219, but 219 isn't even prime. So the quality of the question all in all is poor. Though challenging, but for all the wrong reasons.
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The question is not clear whether we are allowed to re-use the same number in the set. If it is allowed-->then 77+76+66 is 219, but 219 isn't even prime. So the quality of the question all in all is poor. Though challenging, but for all the wrong reasons.



I don't agree. I think the question is fine. The list {1, 3, 6, 7, 7, 7}, comprising six digits where 1, 3, and 6 appear once and 7 appears three times, aligns with the requirement to form three 2-digit numbers, utilizing all six digits. This setup clearly indicates that 1, 3, and 6 should be used once each and 7 three times. The specific composition of the list is intentional. If it were the case that we could use digits in the way you think, it would be just said '...using digits 1, 3, 6, and 7'. This specific list structure and the matching number of digits required for the solution point directly to how the numbers should be formed and used in the solution.
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