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male vs female [#permalink] New post 30 May 2004, 16:32
Discrimination in wages paid in occupations that are predominantly male over the predominantly female have given rise to substantial differentials between the wage of housepainters and secretaries and between the wages of parking-lot attendants and library assistants.
(A) paid in occupations that are predominantly male over the predominantly female have
(B, C) wrong

(D) that favors predominantly male occupations over those that are predominantly female has
(E) paid in predominantly male occupations over the predominantly female has

I am confused between D and E. Any takers.

Plz explain the answer.

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 [#permalink] New post 31 May 2004, 08:48
D is wrong for subject-verb agree ment.

occupations that favor - is correct
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 [#permalink] New post 31 May 2004, 09:00
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So is ur answer D or E. U said sub+verb disagrremnent in D but u said
'that favors' is right.

The answer given is E. Can u plz explain why is it E?
I still think D should be the answer.

Plz explain

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 [#permalink] New post 31 May 2004, 09:02
No u misread my explanation

occupations (plural) + that + favor(plural verb) - is correct
favors is wrong.
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 [#permalink] New post 28 Jun 2004, 22:00
discrimination of wages that........

here "that" refers to wages , hence I feel that wages can't favor anyone.

Hence C,D are wrong.

E is correct as A and B have "have"

anyone agress with me wrt the wages idea ?


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 [#permalink] New post 29 Jun 2004, 11:33
here 'that' refers to occupations which is the nearest subject.

'That' always refers to the nearest subject
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 [#permalink] New post 29 Jun 2004, 11:44
a little basic question.......that will help in clearing my understanding.

Discrimination in wages that ........

Does "that" refer to wages or discrimination ?

Paul, Praet anyone ?

and again the old silly question.......can wages favor anyone/anything ?

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 [#permalink] New post 29 Jun 2004, 11:47
singh_satya wrote:
here 'that' refers to occupations which is the nearest subject.

'That' always refers to the nearest subject


In D "occupations" comes after that.........so how is it possible that "that" refers to occupations ?

Someone please answer my previous post !

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 [#permalink] New post 29 Jun 2004, 11:50
the question is

Discrimination in wages paid in [color=red]occupations[/color] that ....

Here that refers to 'occupations' which is the nearest subject
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Re: male vs female [#permalink] New post 29 Jun 2004, 11:52
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Discrimination in wages paid in occupations that are predominantly male over the predominantly female have given rise to substantial differentials between the wage of housepainters and secretaries and between the wages of parking-lot attendants and library assistants.
(A) paid in occupations that are predominantly male over the predominantly female have
(B, C) wrong

(D) that favors predominantly male occupations over those that are predominantly female has
(E) paid in predominantly male occupations over the predominantly female has

I am confused between D and E. Any takers.

Plz explain the answer.

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Satya,

I think that the correct answer is, in fact, D.

Core sentence: Discrimination [singular] in wages has [subject-verb agreement] given rise to smth.

Clause: Discrimination... that [does what?] favors [what?] male occupations over those [=occupations] that are female - correct comparison

I hope I was able to shed some light on this, if not, I'll try again.
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 [#permalink] New post 29 Jun 2004, 12:47
Grace, OA is E

does anyone have answers to my questions above ?

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 [#permalink] New post 29 Jun 2004, 12:54
singh_satya wrote:
the question is

Discrimination in wages paid in occupations that ....

Here that refers to 'occupations' which is the nearest subject


You didnt mention that you were talking about E. Thats why I kept questioning how "that" can refer to occupations in D.

I'm pasting my questions again.
I know the answer is E.
But, a little basic question.......that will help in clearing my understanding.

In D. Discrimination in wages that ........

Does "that" refer to "wages" or "discrimination" or to "Discrimination in wages" ?

Paul, Praet anyone ?

and again the old silly question.......can "wages" favor anyone/anything ?

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Re: male vs female [#permalink] New post 29 Jun 2004, 13:11
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singh_satya wrote:
Discrimination in wages paid in occupations that are predominantly male over the predominantly female have given rise to substantial differentials between the wage of housepainters and secretaries and between the wages of parking-lot attendants and library assistants.
(A) paid in occupations that are predominantly male over the predominantly female have
(B, C) wrong

(D) that favors predominantly male occupations over those that are predominantly female has
(E) paid in predominantly male occupations over the predominantly female has

I am confused between D and E. Any takers.

Plz explain the answer.

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Satya,

I think that the correct answer is, in fact, D.

Core sentence: Discrimination [singular] in wages has [subject-verb agreement] given rise to smth.

Clause: Discrimination... that [does what?] favors [what?] male occupations over those [=occupations] that are female - correct comparison

I hope I was able to shed some light on this, if not, I'll try again.


My first take was also E.
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 [#permalink] New post 29 Jun 2004, 13:12
I mean D.
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 [#permalink] New post 29 Jun 2004, 13:13
ashkg wrote:
a little basic question.......that will help in clearing my understanding.

Discrimination in wages that ........

Does "that" refer to wages or discrimination ?

Paul, Praet anyone ?

and again the old silly question.......can wages favor anyone/anything ?

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It refers to wages.
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 [#permalink] New post 29 Jun 2004, 13:15
Well yes Anand nk is right. If that refers to wages then favours is wrong. Where the hell is the edit button. I see so many Royal Bengals roaring...
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 [#permalink] New post 29 Jun 2004, 22:44
ashkg wrote:
singh_satya wrote:
the question is

Discrimination in wages paid in occupations that ....

Here that refers to 'occupations' which is the nearest subject


You didnt mention that you were talking about E. Thats why I kept questioning how "that" can refer to occupations in D.

I'm pasting my questions again.
I know the answer is E.
But, a little basic question.......that will help in clearing my understanding.

In D. Discrimination in wages that ........

Does "that" refer to "wages" or "discrimination" or to "Discrimination in wages" ?

Paul, Praet anyone ?

and again the old silly question.......can "wages" favor anyone/anything ?

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"Discrimination in wages that favors predominantly" --- "that" certainly refers to "discrimination" since you have a singular verb following it.

I know that fortune favors the brave but I know of no favoring discrimination. It's gibberish.

E is concise, clear and straightforward.
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 [#permalink] New post 30 Jun 2004, 16:01
ob wrote:
ashkg wrote:
singh_satya wrote:
the question is

Discrimination in wages paid in occupations that ....

Here that refers to 'occupations' which is the nearest subject


You didnt mention that you were talking about E. Thats why I kept questioning how "that" can refer to occupations in D.

I'm pasting my questions again.
I know the answer is E.
But, a little basic question.......that will help in clearing my understanding.

In D. Discrimination in wages that ........

Does "that" refer to "wages" or "discrimination" or to "Discrimination in wages" ?

Paul, Praet anyone ?

and again the old silly question.......can "wages" favor anyone/anything ?

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"Discrimination in wages that favors predominantly" --- "that" certainly refers to "discrimination" since you have a singular verb following it.

I know that fortune favors the brave but I know of no favoring discrimination. It's gibberish.

E is concise, clear and straightforward.


Why is it ok to leave out 'occupations' in the end of choice 'E'? Is it b/c you can assume that female automatically refers to female occupations? what's the rule of thumb here?
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Re: male vs female [#permalink] New post 05 Jul 2004, 09:40
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Discrimination in wages paid in occupations that are predominantly male over the predominantly female have given rise to substantial differentials between the wage of housepainters and secretaries and between the wages of parking-lot attendants and library assistants.
(D) that favors predominantly male occupations over those that are predominantly female has
(E) paid in predominantly male occupations over the predominantly female has


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A, B, C are out thanx to discrimination .... has given rise
1) In D favors, of course, refers to discrimantion. We havent any ambiquity here since "-s" successfully resolves it. coz, one can assert that wages can favors occupations (i' sir eto tozhe maslo).
2) E means "Discrimination in wages paid". If one would like to avoid this inconvenience, one should detach paid....female by commas. But, notice paid in predominantly male occupations over the predominantly female has should be restrictive relative clause and, as a result, requires "that". If it is NOT restrictive then you can eliminate this clause without change of its meaning. but we can't do so.
3) suppose: "wages [omitted that] paid paid in predominantly male occupations" is ok. but
"wages were paid in predominantly male occupations over the predominantly female". absurd. wages were paid X over Y. occupations=female :shock:
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E has semantic, grammatical and punctuation errors. E is weird. D is the only right answer.
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