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Many online retailers charge restocking fees on returns if [#permalink] New post 27 May 2012, 22:58
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Many online retailers charge “restocking fees” on returns if the purchase price is refunded back to the customer's credit card, but charge no such fees if given as store credit.


a. if the purchase price is refunded back to the customer's credit card, but charge no such fees if given as

b. for purchases that are refunded to the customer's credit card, but not when those purchases are refunded as

c. when the purchase is refunded back to the customer's credit card, but not given in the form of

d. if the purchase price is refunded to the customer's credit card, but not if the refund is given as

e. whose purchase prices are refunded to the customer's credit card, and charge no such fees if refunded

I got stuck between a and d. The option 'd' does not seem to have complete sentence after but. So we have a run on sentence. Am I missing something?
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Re: Restocking fees [#permalink] New post 27 May 2012, 23:12
Refunded back is redundant.
So D
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Re: Restocking fees [#permalink] New post 27 May 2012, 23:41
Good catch. or a poor miss on my part :oops: .

I have been making this mistake of missing redundancies. How do I avoid them? I read this so many times before posting it but alas it slipped everytime.

Can you suggest a way to avoid such stupid error?

Going back to my original point - Option D seems to have an incomplete sentence after 'but'.
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Re: Restocking fees [#permalink] New post 28 May 2012, 00:24
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Good catch. or a poor miss on my part :oops: .

I have been making this mistake of missing redundancies. How do I avoid them? I read this so many times before posting it but alas it slipped everytime.

Can you suggest a way to avoid such stupid error?

Going back to my original point - Option D seems to have an incomplete sentence after 'but'.


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Re: Restocking fees [#permalink] New post 28 May 2012, 07:38
Another reason i choose D is the parallel construction after "but"

if the purchase price is refunded back to the customer's credit card
should be parallel to "if given as store credit"

In ans D

if the purchase price is refunded to the customer's credit card
is parallel to
"if the refund is given as"
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Re: Restocking fees [#permalink] New post 06 Jun 2012, 20:35
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Many online retailers charge “restocking fees” on returns if the purchase price is refunded back to the customer's credit card, but charge no such fees if given as store credit.


a. if the purchase price is refunded back to the customer's credit card, but charge no such fees if given as

b. for purchases that are refunded to the customer's credit card, but not when those purchases are refunded as

c. when the purchase is refunded back to the customer's credit card, but not given in the form of

d. if the purchase price is refunded to the customer's credit card, but not if the refund is given as

e. whose purchase prices are refunded to the customer's credit card, and charge no such fees if refunded

I got stuck between a and d. The option 'd' does not seem to have complete sentence after but. So we have a run on sentence. Am I missing something?


"refund back to" in choice A and C is redundant. So, they are out. Choice D is truly complete because the 2nd part is only opposite with the 1st part, it's used to collaborate the 1st. "The purchase price is refunded" can be alternated by "the refund" \. Choice C shows "in the form of" is no clear meaning.

Choice E is wrong because of the meaning of the 2nd part "charge no such fees if refunded".
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Re: Restocking fees [#permalink] New post 07 Jun 2012, 23:05
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Many online retailers charge “restocking fees” on returns if the purchase price is refunded back to the customer's credit card, but charge no such fees if given as store credit.


a. if the purchase price is refunded back to the customer's credit card, but charge no such fees if given as

b. for purchases that are refunded to the customer's credit card, but not when those purchases are refunded as

c. when the purchase is refunded back to the customer's credit card, but not given in the form of

d. if the purchase price is refunded to the customer's credit card, but not if the refund is given as

e. whose purchase prices are refunded to the customer's credit card, and charge no such fees if refunded

I got stuck between a and d. The option 'd' does not seem to have complete sentence after but. So we have a run on sentence. Am I missing something?



i've got stuck between A and D too. but finally choose D. in my point of view, the meaning is a bit ambiguous. what is given the price or the fees. in D the intended meaning is clear.

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Re: Restocking fees [#permalink] New post 08 Jun 2012, 00:10
Man, this is a good problem.

Here's mine:

First, read the entire sentence. Then read each answer choice (beginning with A). After reading each, there are three easy eliminations: A, C, and E. A from "if given" and "refunded back", C from "but not given", and E from "whose".

For B & D, we basically need to decide between "for purchases" and "if the purchase price". It looks like D is the way to go, plus it's more economic, which helps.

D...

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Re: Restocking fees [#permalink] New post 10 Jun 2012, 12:59
vatsas wrote:
Good catch. or a poor miss on my part :oops: .

I have been making this mistake of missing redundancies. How do I avoid them? I read this so many times before posting it but alas it slipped everytime.

Can you suggest a way to avoid such stupid error?

Going back to my original point - Option D seems to have an incomplete sentence after 'but'.



Try this:

When you compare two sentences, what is the difference between the two?

If you spot the difference to an additional word in one versus the other, check if this word is "needed". This is your test for redundancy.

In the give question, between A and D you can spot "refunded back" as the difference, it is present in A absent in D. Immediately pop the question "is the word "back" needed or is it redundant?" you might find it easier to spot those then.
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Re: Restocking fees [#permalink] New post 11 Jun 2012, 06:12
Thanks for the question... good explanation.. IMO D
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Re: Restocking fees [#permalink] New post 02 Jul 2012, 06:23
D for me too. the purchase vs purchase price eliminated 2 immediately. though i didnt catch the redundant "refunded back" (good one rohitgoel!), D felt the best answer for the use of but and IIelism
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Re: Many online retailers charge restocking fees on returns if [#permalink] New post 09 Jul 2013, 12:35
vatsas wrote:
Many online retailers charge “restocking fees” on returns if the purchase price is refunded back to the customer's credit card, but charge no such fees if given as store credit.


a. if the purchase price is refunded back to the customer's credit card, but charge no such fees if given as

b. for purchases that are refunded to the customer's credit card, but not when those purchases are refunded as

c. when the purchase is refunded back to the customer's credit card, but not given in the form of

d. if the purchase price is refunded to the customer's credit card, but not if the refund is given as

e. whose purchase prices are refunded to the customer's credit card, and charge no such fees if refunded

I got stuck between a and d. The option 'd' does not seem to have complete sentence after but. So we have a run on sentence. Am I missing something?


here is the OE

The sentence describes an action taken by retailers under one set of circumstances but not under another, so the two scenarios should appear in parallel. Because the two outcomes contrast with each other -- fees are charged in one case, but not in the other -- the parallel structure should be marked by a transition that indicates contrast.

(A) In the construction "charge no such fees if given," the modifier "if given" must refer to the subject of the clause: "retailers charge no such fees if given store credit." This construction illogically suggests that the retailers themselves are "given as store credit." In addition, the use of both refunded and back is redundant; to refund money is to give it back.

(B) This sentence contains no parallel structure. Instead, “those purchases” seems to refer, incorrectly, to the purchases described in the previous clause (that is, those for which the refund is issued to the consumer's credit card). The second clause is meant to describe other purchases/returns that contrast with those previously mentioned, so the meaning of this choice is actually the opposite of what is intended. Additionally, both clauses state that the purchases themselves are “refunded”; this is inaccurate, as it is the price of the purchase, not the actual purchase, that is refunded.

(C) This choice sets up a parallel structure between "refunded" and "given," illogically suggesting that both modifiers refer to “purchases." (Refunds, not purchases, are given in the form of store credit.) The use of both "refunded" and "back" is redundant; to refund money is to give it back. Finally, the wording of this choice indicates that the purchases themselves are “refunded”; this is inaccurate, as it is the price of the purchase, not the actual purchase, that is refunded.

(D) CORRECT. The parallelism between the two subordinate clauses ("if the purchase price is..." and "if the refund is…") properly highlights the two situations to be contrasted. The transition word "but" properly indicates a contrast between the two situations.

(E) In the construction charge no such fees if refunded…, the modifier if refunded… must refer to the subject of the clause: "retailers charge no such fees if refunded store credit." This construction illogically suggests that the retailers themselves are given store credit. The parallel constructions are joined only by "and," a transition that does not indicate contrast. Finally, the modifier "whose purchase prices are refunded" modifies “returns,” illogically suggesting that returns are things that must be purchased for a price.

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