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Many people suffer an allergic reaction to certain sulfites, including those that are commonly added to wine as preservatives. However, since there are several winemakers who add sulfites to none of the wines they produce, people who would like to drink wine but are allergic to sulfites can drink wines produced by these winemakers without risking an allergic reaction to sulfites.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

(A) These winemakers have been able to duplicate the preservative effect produced by adding sulfites by means that do not involve adding any potentially allergenic substances to their wine.
(B) Not all forms of sulfite are equally likely to produce the allergic reaction.
(C) Wine is the only beverage to which sulfites are commonly added.
(D) Apart from sulfites, there are no substances commonly present in wine that give rise to an allergic reaction.
(E) Sulfites are not naturally present in the wines produced by these winemakers in amounts large enough to produce an allergic reaction in someone who drinks these wines.

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Re: CR: Sulphites Allergy [#permalink] New post 25 Jan 2006, 22:26
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If sulfites are already present in the wines produced by these wine makers, people would still have allergic reactions
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E is the one.

Conclusion: people who want to drink and are allergic to sulphites can drink without risking an allergic reaction to sulfites

Negate E: Sluphites already present in the wines. So conclusion is wrong.

D is distantly possible. But it makes a statement about allergies in general, while the conclusion is specifically about sulphite allergies!
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 [#permalink] New post 25 Jan 2006, 23:38
Straight E.

Negate E and the argument falls apart.
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 [#permalink] New post 25 Jan 2006, 23:41
In assumption questions, Negation technique works most of the time.
Using it, the answer is E
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Jan 2006, 10:44
E ... straight answer ... it clearly assumes that sulphites are not naturally present in those wines in which the winemakers doesnot add sulphites ...

to weaken the argument u can also read it as since sulphite is naturally present in those wines so the winemaker doesnot add sulphite to it .
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Many people suffer an allergic reaction to certain sulfites, [#permalink] New post 26 Nov 2006, 17:44
Many people suffer an allergic reaction to certain sulfites, including those that are commonly added to wine as preservatives. However, since there are several wine makers who add sulfites to none of the wines they produce, people who would like to drink wine but are allergic to sulfites can drink wines produced by these wine makers without risking an allergic reaction to sulfites.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

A. These wine makers have been able to duplicate the preservative effect produced by adding sulfites by means that do not involve adding any potentially allergenic substances to their wine.

B. Not all forms of sulfite are equally likely to produce the allergic reactions.

C. Wine is the only beverage to which sulfites are commonly added.

D. Sulfites are not naturally present in the wines produced by these wine makers in amounts large enough to produce an allergic reaction in someone who drinks these wines.

E. Apart from sulfites, there are no substances commonly present in wine that give rise to an allergic reaction.
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Nov 2006, 19:29
E looks good.

Assumption is other than the one specified what else could bring in the undesired consequences
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Re: CR : Simple Assumption Question [#permalink] New post 26 Nov 2006, 19:54
From this statement :"since there are several wine makers who add sulfites to none of the wines they produce,"
Iam assuming winer manufacturers are not adding sulfites, Iam going with A
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Nov 2006, 21:55
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E looks good.

Assumption is other than the one specified what else could bring in the undesired consequences


One more E. The people prone to allergy can take wines without added sulfites only if the wines do not have those sulfites already.
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Re: CR : Simple Assumption Question [#permalink] New post 27 Nov 2006, 00:09
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Many people suffer an allergic reaction to certain sulfites, including those that are commonly added to wine as preservatives. However, since there are several wine makers who add sulfites to none of the wines they produce, people who would like to drink wine but are allergic to sulfites can drink wines produced by these wine makers without risking an allergic reaction to sulfites.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

A. These wine makers have been able to duplicate the preservative effect produced by adding sulfites by means that do not involve adding any potentially allergenic substances to their wine.

B. Not all forms of sulfite are equally likely to produce the allergic reactions.

C. Wine is the only beverage to which sulfites are commonly added.

D. Sulfites are not naturally present in the wines produced by these wine makers in amounts large enough to produce an allergic reaction in someone who drinks these wines.

E. Apart from sulfites, there are no substances commonly present in wine that give rise to an allergic reaction.


I will go for A here. We still need to preserve wine!

E is wrong because we are talking about some other substances whereas arguments talks only about sulfites and allergic reaction to it. So E goes beyond the scope of argument.
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Re: CR : Simple Assumption Question [#permalink] New post 27 Nov 2006, 08:23
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Many people suffer an allergic reaction to certain sulfites, including those that are commonly added to wine as preservatives. However, since there are several wine makers who add sulfites to none of the wines they produce, people who would like to drink wine but are allergic to sulfites can drink wines produced by these wine makers without risking an allergic reaction to sulfites.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

A. These wine makers have been able to duplicate the preservative effect produced by adding sulfites by means that do not involve adding any potentially allergenic substances to their wine.

How do we know that wines without sulfites have preservative effect? Argument never said that.

B. Not all forms of sulfite are equally likely to produce the allergic reactions.

C. Wine is the only beverage to which sulfites are commonly added.

D. Sulfites are not naturally present in the wines produced by these wine makers in amounts large enough to produce an allergic reaction in someone who drinks these wines.

That means, we are assuming that sulfites are definitely there in the wine (may be in a small quantity). How can we assume that?

E. Apart from sulfites, there are no substances commonly present in wine that give rise to an allergic reaction.


I will go for A here. We still need to preserve wine!

E is wrong because we are talking about some other substances whereas arguments talks only about sulfites and allergic reaction to it. So E goes beyond the scope of argument.

The discussion of the argument focuses on allergy part. Hence, E can be the answer. Drinkers get allergies because sulfites are added. There may be sulfites already in the wine, and there may not be also. Argument never said that only sulfites cause allergy. But if we want to rule out the possibility of wine drinkers getting allergy, then we need to rule out the possibility of sulfites, and non-sulphites also. E does that. :wink:

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 [#permalink] New post 27 Nov 2006, 12:21
E is correct if the question ends with 'without risking an allergic reaction'. BUt the question specifically talks about the allergic reaction to sulfites. See the last segment of the question. It says

[u][b]without risking an allergic reaction to sulfites.[/b][/u]
In my opinion, D is the correct answer.

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 [#permalink] New post 27 Nov 2006, 13:06
I definitely think D. A is totally irrelevant. yes you have to assume they can preserve the wine by other methods. But you do not have to assume that to follow or believe the argument. I think its a red herring.

The argument is "If they dont add sulfites you can drink wine, even if you are allergic to sulfites"

or Like saying " If you are allergic to peanut butter you can eat it, as long as they dont add peanuts to it. Well, no you cant eat it, youll go into anaphalactyic shock.

hence the answer is D. We need to know that wine does not naturally contain sulfites.

No other answer make sense to me.

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Many people suffer an allergic reaction to certain sulfites, [#permalink] New post 23 Sep 2007, 19:22
Many people suffer an allergic reaction to certain sulfites, including those that
are commonly added to wine as preservatives. However, since there are several
wine makers who add sulfites to none of the wines they produce, people who
would like to drink wine but are allergic to sulfites can drink wines produced by
these wine makers without risking an allergic reaction to sulfites.
Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?
A. These wine makers have been able to duplicate the preservative effect
produced by adding sulfites by means that do not involve adding any
potentially allergenic substances to their wine.
B. Not all forms of sulfite are equally likely to produce the allergic reactions.
C. Wine is the only beverage to which sulfites are commonly added.
D. Apart from sulfites, there are no substances commonly present in wine that
give rise to an allergic reaction.
E. Sulfites are not naturally present in the wines produced by these wine
makers in amounts large enough to produce an allergic reaction in someone
who drinks these wines.

Please explain why D is not the right answer?
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Re: cr - WINE MAKERS [#permalink] New post 23 Sep 2007, 19:39
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Many people suffer an allergic reaction to certain sulfites, including those that
are commonly added to wine as preservatives. However, since there are several
wine makers who add sulfites to none of the wines they produce, people who
would like to drink wine but are allergic to sulfites can drink wines produced by
these wine makers without risking an allergic reaction to sulfites.
Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

A. These wine makers have been able to duplicate the preservative effect
produced by adding sulfites by means that do not involve adding any
potentially allergenic substances to their wine.
B. Not all forms of sulfite are equally likely to produce the allergic reactions.
C. Wine is the only beverage to which sulfites are commonly added.
D. Apart from sulfites, there are no substances commonly present in wine that
give rise to an allergic reaction.
E. Sulfites are not naturally present in the wines produced by these wine
makers in amounts large enough to produce an allergic reaction in someone
who drinks these wines.

Please explain why D is not the right answer?


Come test day, i prolly would have picked D as well for times sake.

Now look closely @ D. there are no substances commonly present in wine that give rise to an allergic reaction. This is irrelevant because we are concerned about the people ONLY alergic to sulfates. just b/c the wine may or may not contain other alergenic substances is not a necessary assumption here.


A: has the same problem as D.
B: Irrelevant. Maybe not all but some do produce an alergic reaction. This doesn't gurantee that people who drink these wines will not have an alergic reaction. Again its irrelevant b/c it doesn't help us understand why the wine is ok to drink.
C: irrelevant we are talking about why wine is ok to drink.


I say E. B/c this eliminates the possibility of sulfates being present in the wine through additional means. Notice the passage discusses only that some wine makers don't add sulfates. What if sulfates were already in the wine naturally. This is an assumption the argument must rely on to be true.
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Re: cr - WINE MAKERS [#permalink] New post 23 Sep 2007, 19:53
alimad wrote:
Many people suffer an allergic reaction to certain sulfites, including those that
are commonly added to wine as preservatives. However, since there are several
wine makers who add sulfites to none of the wines they produce, people who
would like to drink wine but are allergic to sulfites can drink wines produced by
these wine makers without risking an allergic reaction to sulfites.
Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?
A. These wine makers have been able to duplicate the preservative effect
produced by adding sulfites by means that do not involve adding any
potentially allergenic substances to their wine.
B. Not all forms of sulfite are equally likely to produce the allergic reactions.
C. Wine is the only beverage to which sulfites are commonly added.
D. Apart from sulfites, there are no substances commonly present in wine that
give rise to an allergic reaction.
E. Sulfites are not naturally present in the wines produced by these wine
makers in amounts large enough to produce an allergic reaction in someone
who drinks these wines.

Please explain why D is not the right answer?


I pick E.

Producer does not add any sulfite, but naturally present sulfite could cause allergy, so allergic person can not drink it.

D. Out of scope, Argument is concerned with allergy caused by sulfite only.
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Many people suffer an allergic reaction to certain sulfites, [#permalink] New post 07 Sep 2008, 04:13
Many people suffer an allergic reaction to certain sulfites, including those that are commonly added to wine as preservatives. However, since there are several wine makers who add sulfites to none of the wines they produce, people who would like to drink wine but are allergic to sulfites can drink wines produced by these wine makers without risking an allergic reaction to sulfites.
Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

A. These wine makers have been able to duplicate the preservative effect produced by adding sulfites by means that do not involve adding any potentially allergenic substances to their wine.

B. Not all forms of sulfite are equally likely to produce the allergic reactions.

C. Wine is the only beverage to which sulfites are commonly added.

D. Apart from sulfites, there are no substances commonly present in wine that give rise to an allergic reaction.

E. Sulfites are not naturally present in the wines produced by these wine makers in amounts large enough to produce an allergic reaction in someone who drinks these wines
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Re: assumption CR [#permalink] New post 07 Sep 2008, 05:18
E for me
Many people suffer an allergic reaction to certain sulfites, including those that are commonly added to wine as preservatives.However, since there are several wine makers who add sulfites to none of the wines they produce, people who would like to drink wine but are allergic to sulfites can drink wines produced by these wine makers without risking an allergic reaction to sulfites.
Argument holds on the assumption that if no sulfites added by wine makers there are no sulfites in wine at all.Only E for me
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Re: assumption CR [#permalink] New post 07 Sep 2008, 05:58
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E for me
Many people suffer an allergic reaction to certain sulfites, including those that are commonly added to wine as preservatives.However, since there are several wine makers who add sulfites to none of the wines they produce, people who would like to drink wine but are allergic to sulfites can drink wines produced by these wine makers without risking an allergic reaction to sulfites.
Argument holds on the assumption that if no sulfites added by wine makers there are no sulfites in wine at all.Only E for me


but what is there to assume.
because, only if it is known that sulphites are not present in large amounts reqd for the drink, only then will they add an external source of sulphite.

ok to make things more clear its like this:-

say u are the wine manufacturer. you decide to make wine and add sulphite to preserve. Before doing so, you will, on introspection find that there is no reqd qty sulphite in the wine and then only add the reqd amt of sulphite.
supppose you knew that sulphite is already there in the wine , then the sulphite so present in the quantities iteself enough to preserve. so why do u want to add an external source? remove the source you will say. but here the external source is present . that means what? that means that there is already sulphifte present, and you , who is making the wine is aware about it. otherwise why will u ask external sulphite to be added?u already know that there is no sulphite, so what are u assuming?


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