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Why not an MS in Marketing?

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I think MBA also will do.

I am in a Marketing research company. My VP is an MBA from Sloan. I have heard of another Sloan MBA candidate joining our company recently.

As some body said, Quant skills are important compared to other marketing fields. But the skills can be learnt over the job also. Not very difficult.

Sachin, have any question on MR? Shoot :)

I think your understanding of the field, rather than your background, is important.

I am surprised that MR can be interesting to somebody :wink:
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I'm in the same boat, coming from a PR/light marketing background.

What I am hoping an MBA will do for me is round out my skillset to move into brand managment and prepare me for a higher level of leadership. I have decided on this route over a MS in marketing.

Is this a bad choice?
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I'm in the same boat, coming from a PR/light marketing background.

What I am hoping an MBA will do for me is round out my skillset to move into brand managment and prepare me for a higher level of leadership. I have decided on this route over a MS in marketing.

Is this a bad choice?


No it's not a bad choice. Once you are in the brand manager position, you are more of a general manager than a specialist. The MBA would help.

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There are refugees from IT all over around here. A number of them are switching into marketing. Provided they didn't "reinvent" for their essays, some of them must have talked about this transition.

I don't know that you have to have tons of experience - a passion may be enough. Why does marketing trip your trigger? Weave a good story around that.
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Thank you all for all the advice. Really helped.

I have some more questions :)

My choice for going into Marketing Research(MR) is a part of my greater plan.

I understand that MR involves finding out in which markets a product can be launched by researching on customers, and market trends. I will be basically answering questions such as, What do the customers want? How much are they willing to pay for it? If we enter into this segment can our company compete with the other established companies? etc.

Also, from what I understand, MR is somewhat like strategic planning. I would also like to get some sales experience. I feel that my interaction with potential customers while doing MR would be helpful.

Moving on in life, I would like to move into a more leadership oriented role. Something like Brand Management.

Question: Will my experience in MR and maybe sales help me in my grand plan?

After gaining experience in Marketing, I would like to see the management side of production too. I am already a part of a Lean Management group which identifies areas which are more time consuming than necessary and eliminates or streamlines those processes.

I am sure I want to follow this path. I would appreciate your help in identifying areas I may have overlooked. Also, I would appreciate if you could enlighten me more on MR.

PS: I am doing research on MR (wiki, and some other sites).


Thanks again for all the guidance.

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Working in different functions can certainly help, but it is not compulsory to enter top management or become a CEO. Many of CEOs were just in one function before they became CEOs.

If I am looking for exposure in different functions, I would try to get that in a single company. I am sure, if I am a good performer I will be given opportunities to work in different functions in the organization.

If I try to get that kind of exposure from different companies, potential recruiters might see me as a confused man rather than somebody who is laying a grand plan. :wink:
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point taken.

which course do you suggest I follow if what I've written is what I want to follow.

My Strengths:
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point taken.

which course do you suggest I follow if what I've written is what I want to follow.

My Strengths:
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I think MBA is a suitable course, since General management is your long term goal. With MBA (Marketing), you can have the cake and eat it too ;)
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It sounds like some of you here were in Marketing Research ... was anyone here more on the brand management side of things? Can anyone speak to the relative strengths and weaknesses of each path, and certainly any insight into CPG brand mgmt vs service brand mgmt (i.e. amex centurion card :) )
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was anyone here more on the brand management side of things? Can anyone speak to the relative strengths and weaknesses of each path, and certainly any insight into CPG brand mgmt vs service brand mgmt (i.e. amex centurion card :) )


Thanks for asking this question, rhyme! Since my eventual goal is to go into brand management, I would also love to hear experienced posters' thoughts on this!
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more on sales too plz :P
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was anyone here more on the brand management side of things? Can anyone speak to the relative strengths and weaknesses of each path, and certainly any insight into CPG brand mgmt vs service brand mgmt (i.e. amex centurion card :) )


Thanks for asking this question, rhyme! Since my eventual goal is to go into brand management, I would also love to hear experienced posters' thoughts on this!


Didn't Bulishona post a great outline of her experience in brand management late last season? Others might benefit from it.
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Thanks, rhyme! I found the post, but couldn't figure out a way to link to it directly, so here it is for anyone else considering brand management:

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my experience in BM is not at a traditional packaged goods company. i'm at a toy company which is decidedly different. but when i was in advertising, all of my clients were pkgd goods companies so i'm intimately familiar with what they do too.

honestly, some days i spend the whole day in meetings. with my engineers to figure out how we can make a product actually work. briefing my packaging team about a new line we're doing and need a new logo for. with my ad agency looking at storyboards for the launch of a new item. it's endless. i call them "beatings." :)

those days suck. you come back to your desk at 5, with your inbox waiting for you with 75 unread emails.

but other days, like today, you don't have any meetings. i should be writing a deck right now to introduce our sales team to a new children's tv property that we're doing the toys for. and then i have to review the moderator's report from a recent set of focus groups we did and provide the team with some recommendations. and then i have to do a data analysis of competitive sales data to see what trends i can glean about a new category we're thinking of entering.

hours? that's the best part. hours are awesome. for the most part, i work 8-6. i do take my laptop home to do emails (always tons of emails) but at my company we have half-day fridays so it's even better. some days i work late, but never later than 8. i almost never work weekends. and when i have to officially work (travel, attending a conference, etc.) then i get a comp day to take another day. it is certainly not expected that you work on the weekends.

of course, i don't get paid to work 100 hrs a week either, so that is obviously a drawback. pay is good but not amazing. i also get paid less than other BMs because i don't have an MBA but that's a different issue ;)

what is my objective? wow that's an all-encompassing question. i build the brand. i know that sounds rather obtuse, but it's what i do. every part of the brand from product, to packaging, to communications, to managing the P&L, to working with sales to sell the product in to the trade, to making recommendations to senior management about how to increase our sku efficiency, to planning out our long-term brand strategy, and on and on. different brands have different areas of emphasis, of course. my current brands are both new launches so i don't have any POS analysis or damage control going on. it's all forward thinking.

does that help at all? :)
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Thanks, rhyme! I found the post, but couldn't figure out a way to link to it directly, so here it is for anyone else considering brand management:

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my experience in BM is not at a traditional packaged goods company. i'm at a toy company which is decidedly different. but when i was in advertising, all of my clients were pkgd goods companies so i'm intimately familiar with what they do too.

honestly, some days i spend the whole day in meetings. with my engineers to figure out how we can make a product actually work. briefing my packaging team about a new line we're doing and need a new logo for. with my ad agency looking at storyboards for the launch of a new item. it's endless. i call them "beatings." :)

those days suck. you come back to your desk at 5, with your inbox waiting for you with 75 unread emails.

but other days, like today, you don't have any meetings. i should be writing a deck right now to introduce our sales team to a new children's tv property that we're doing the toys for. and then i have to review the moderator's report from a recent set of focus groups we did and provide the team with some recommendations. and then i have to do a data analysis of competitive sales data to see what trends i can glean about a new category we're thinking of entering.

hours? that's the best part. hours are awesome. for the most part, i work 8-6. i do take my laptop home to do emails (always tons of emails) but at my company we have half-day fridays so it's even better. some days i work late, but never later than 8. i almost never work weekends. and when i have to officially work (travel, attending a conference, etc.) then i get a comp day to take another day. it is certainly not expected that you work on the weekends.

of course, i don't get paid to work 100 hrs a week either, so that is obviously a drawback. pay is good but not amazing. i also get paid less than other BMs because i don't have an MBA but that's a different issue ;)

what is my objective? wow that's an all-encompassing question. i build the brand. i know that sounds rather obtuse, but it's what i do. every part of the brand from product, to packaging, to communications, to managing the P&L, to working with sales to sell the product in to the trade, to making recommendations to senior management about how to increase our sku efficiency, to planning out our long-term brand strategy, and on and on. different brands have different areas of emphasis, of course. my current brands are both new launches so i don't have any POS analysis or damage control going on. it's all forward thinking.

does that help at all? :)


thanks for finding that!
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That looks more and more appealing the more I read about it.
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Now see, here's the one thing I don't understand. Why is it that people like Bulishona, who are already doing what my long-term post-MBA goal is, going to b-school? I've seen others here like that also, that have already started businesses, been executives in companies, etc. who are going back to school for an MBA.

I hope that no one here takes this question the wrong way, I mean no offense to anyone, but I've just been curious about this. :-D
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