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# Meaning/Clarity 5.Around three centuries ago, the prevailing

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05 Jan 2013, 12:04

try to understand the whole sentence and what's going on
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05 Jan 2013, 12:06
carcass wrote:
Marcab wrote:
"to phrases" also intruduce prepositional phrases.
My response was A.

No No sorry My fault you edited the answer in the second one. ok

The answer cannot be A because stacey has improve considerable ability $$in$$ literature and $$to$$ learn

Thats what I am saying. Just because of the presence of "in" on one side and "to" on other side doesn't breaks the parallelism rule. Note that on oth side of "and", prepositional phrases are used, which help us in order to correctly express the idea. Answer choice A does the same.
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05 Jan 2013, 12:08
Let me express what I get from the sentence.
Stacy has considerable ability in literature. She also has considerable ability to learn. Both use prepositions.
Note that "to" is used here as a preposition, and not as an infinitive.
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05 Jan 2013, 12:10
Hi carcass, can you post OE's for 8 and 9 ques. I feel we need BUT in 8 to show a change in the A's views
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05 Jan 2013, 12:14
Marcab wrote:
Let me express what I get from the sentence.
Stacy has considerable ability in literature. She also has considerable ability to learn. Both use prepositions.
Note that "to" is used here as a preposition, and not as an infinitive.

I agree to some extent.

here the meaning is that the teacher says: she had shown something in 2 fields that she already known.

In A seems that she knows literature but not foreign language, and on the latter she is still learning
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05 Jan 2013, 12:16
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2 During a conversation with Stacy’s parents, the teacher mentioned that Stacy
had shown considerable ability in literature and to learn foreign languages

(A) considerable ability in literature and to learn
(B) considerable ability in literature and that she could do it well in
(C) ability that was considerable in literature as well as in learning
(D) ability considerably in literature and in
(E) considerable ability in literature and in

Probably not something the GMAT want to test
I ll list out the idiom problem
In the GMAT Idiom world,
able to>ability in>ability to
ability to is pretty awkward.
Also another thing is
"ability to learn something" is in a way redundant in the same way as the following sentence
I was able to shut the door. -Redundant (if there are no meaning problems and assuming I was not paralyzed )
I shut the door. Pretty concise.
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05 Jan 2013, 12:19
revanth4gmat wrote:
Hi carcass, can you post OE's for 8 and 9 ques. I feel we need BUT in 8 to show a change in the A's views

OE 9 already posted check the previous post

Here the eighth

Concepts Tested – Parallelism, Meaning, Run-on
C gets the parallelism right (‘praise’ and ‘show’) and is the best answer.

A - Breaks the parallelism by using ‘it’. Also it’s not clear who is the subject in the
second clause after the comma

B - The use of ‘rare’ as an adjective to modify ‘kindness’ distorts the meaning of
the original sentence by suggesting that the academicians are actually showing a
type of kindness (rare kindness) towards contrary theories.

D - This is a run on sentence because a comma is used to connect two
independent clauses

E - Same as B
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05 Jan 2013, 12:20
revanth4gmat wrote:
Hi carcass, can you post OE's for 8 and 9 ques. I feel we need BUT in 8 to show a change in the A's views

Academicians tend to praise research that agrees with their own beliefs, and it is
rare for kindness to be shown to contrary theories

(A) beliefs, and it is rare for kindness to be shown
(B) beliefs, with a rare kindness shown
(C) beliefs, and rarely show kindness
(D) beliefs, they are rarely kind
(E) beliefs, but they show rare kindness

Try to get the gist of the sentence.
"And" is required here because on the whole, its the characteristic of the academicians to praise research that agrees with their beliefs and rarely show kindness to contrary theories. "And" here implies the two contrasting characteristics of the academicians.
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05 Jan 2013, 12:27
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2 During a conversation with Stacy’s parents, the teacher mentioned that Stacy
had shown considerable ability in literature and to learn foreign languages

(A) considerable ability in literature and to learn
(B) considerable ability in literature and that she could do it well in
(C) ability that was considerable in literature as well as in learning
(D) ability considerably in literature and in
(E) considerable ability in literature and in

Probably not something the GMAT want to test
I ll list out the idiom problem
In the GMAT Idiom world,
able to>ability in>ability to
ability to is pretty awkward.
Also another thing is
"ability to learn something" is in a way redundant in the same way as the following sentence
I was able to shut the door. -Redundant (if there are no meaning problems and assuming I was not paralyzed )
I shut the door. Pretty concise.

Hii Souvik.
Why do you think that "I was able to shut the door" is redundant. IMO it depends on the context and the two sentences listed-with "able to" and without "able to"-imply different meaning.
Consider this:- Though I was bleeding heavily, I was able to kickstart the bike.
Now this- Though I was bleeding heavily, I kickstart the bike.

The "able to" in the former helps to understand the implication of the preceding clause. Isn't that so?
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05 Jan 2013, 12:32
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Yeah thats what I said in the brackets
I was able to shut the door. -Redundant (if there are no meaning problems and assuming I was not paralyzed )

It indeed depends on the meaning!

However,
She showed considerable ability in learning foreign languages
She showed considerable ability in foreign languages

I would incline to the second one! Because considerable ability is also synonymous with the fact that she is not a pro and is learning.
I would however use,
She showed considerbale capability of foreign languages in the big bad GMAT world.
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05 Jan 2013, 12:36
lazy guys......!
Some one too lazy has edited my post rather than creating his own:wink:
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05 Jan 2013, 12:37
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LOL!
Some one has also corrected it and put it back in order :D
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05 Jan 2013, 18:05
hi carcass, will look forward to the fifth meaning set.
Could u pls give the OE for 6th question,I was stuck b/w two options here and its the one I got wrong

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hi carcass, will look forward to the fifth meaning set.
Could u pls give the OE for 6th question,I was stuck b/w two options here and its the one I got wrong

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Concepts Tested – Run-on, Parallelism, Verb
The sentence as given is a run-on sentence because it uses a comma to connect
two independent clauses. B is the best answer as it gets the placement of ‘both’
right and also uses the parallel structure correctly.

C - The placement of ‘both’ is incorrect. The original sentence implies that the
release of Jurassic Park led to the inauguration of two things; hence ‘both’ should
come after ‘inauguration’

D - The use of ‘and’ is not appropriate since it fails to show the causal
relationship implicit in the sentence. Also the preposition ‘of’ does not have to be
repeated in the phrase ‘of the audience’s fascination with dinosaurs’ because ‘of’
is coming before ‘both, which implies that it applies to both the things that come
after ‘both’.

E - This sentence is missing a main verb
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22 May 2013, 10:30
Carcass would you mind posting OEs of question 8 and 9?
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8 Academicians tend to praise research that agrees with their own beliefs, and it is
rare for kindness to be shown
to contrary theories

(A) beliefs, and it is rare for kindness to be shown
(B) beliefs, with a rare kindness shown
(C) beliefs, and rarely show kindness
(D) beliefs, they are rarely kind
(E) beliefs, but they show rare kindness

How can option C be a correct option? It's completely distorting the intended meaning. According to option C, academicians are showing rare kindness, but in fact, the intended meaning is that "research" ,itself, has to show rare kindness. One can ask that how can research shows kindness(being the property of alive matters) or be a doer. If "research" can "agree" upon something then it can also show "kindness".
And in case if it belongs to academician then what is the use of comma just before "and", as there are only two actions (praise research and show kindness).
Correct me, If I am wrong !!
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9 Patrick Woodroffe is a poet and painter that is able to make a living at it

(A) Patrick Woodroffe is a poet and painter that is able to make a living at it
(B) Patrick Woodroffe is able to make a living as a poet and painter
(C) A poet and painter, Patrick Woodroffe is able to make a living at it
(D) Patrick Woodroffe makes a living as a poet and a painter
(E) By writing poetry and painting is how Patrick Woodroffe makes a living

The intended meaning of the original sentence is clearly giving stress upon "being as a poet & a painter" and it says this is the only medium through which patrick can able to earn something, while option D is pretty straight forward and missing the intended stress on his profession.
Am I making sense? Btw what is wrong with option B? It is having that stress component as well
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Can someone explain number 8 to me please?
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Can someone explain number 8 to me please?

here you have all the asnswers to your questions whre the topic is consolidated

meaning-clarity-sc-question-bank-by-carcass-souvik-145694.html#p1168341

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