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Meg and Bob are among the 5 participants in a cycling race. [#permalink]
22 Oct 2007, 19:14

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Meg and Bob are among the 5 participants in a cycling race. If each participant finishes the race and no two participants finish at the same time, in how many different possible orders can the participants finish the race so that Meg finishes ahead of Bob?

Re: Meg and Bob are among the 5 participants in a cycling race. [#permalink]
22 Oct 2007, 20:34

Let me redeem myself:

JXXXX => Bob can be in any X...Total 4! = 24

XJXXX => Bob can be in the last 3 Xs...Total 3! = 6. However, since the first person can change too and it cannot be Bob, it can only be 3 other people. So Total = 6*3 = 18

XXJBX => 3! = 6 total
XXJXB => 3! = 6 total
So this yields total of 12

Re: Meg and Bob are among the 5 participants in a cycling race. [#permalink]
16 Nov 2007, 22:24

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Refer to one method promoted by Johnr, i figured out a quick solution to this problem:

with 5 participants, there're 5! ways to arrange them.

Because Bob and Jen have identical roles in these 5 participants, the chance that each of them finishes before the another is 50%. Thus, the number of ways in which Jen finishes before Bob is 5! * 50% = 60 ways

Re: Meg and Bob are among the 5 participants in a cycling race. [#permalink]
16 Nov 2007, 22:31

IrinaOK wrote:

If Bob and Jen are two of 5 participants in a race, how many different ways can the race finish where Jen always finishes in front of Bob?

please post your solution too, thank you.

J has to finish before B (given)

J finishes 1st then B can finish in 4 ways and other three can finish in 3! ways to give us 4*3! ways = 24
J finishes 2nd then B can finish in 3 ways and other three can finish in 3! ways to give us 3*3! ways = 18
J finishes 3rd then B can finish in 2 ways and other three can finish in 3! ways to give us 2*3! ways = 12
J finishes 4th then B can finish in 1 way (last) and other three can finish in 3! ways to give us 1*3! ways = 6

Re: Meg and Bob are among the 5 participants in a cycling race. [#permalink]
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There is another way to get this solved. This method can be generalized to solve such kind of problems.

The steps are: 1. Take a specific case that satisfies the given condition. 2. Find the possible arrangements for that case. 3. Find the number of such cases.

Let me elaborate with the solution.

1. We can choose any two positions out of the 5 positions. Say i choose a specific case where Jen is 1st & Bob is 4th. J _ _ B _ 2. The three blank spaces can be filled in 3! ways. 3. Now 2 positions can be selected from 5 positions ( as done in step 1 ) in 5C2 ways

So, total ways: 3! * 5C2 = 60 _________________

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There are always 2 ways to arrange Jen and Bob. First possibility: J(...)B (with or without people in between) Second possibility: B(...)J (with or without people in between)

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IrinaOK wrote:

Meg and Bob are among the 5 participants in a cycling race. If each participant finishes the race and no two participants finish at the same time, in how many different possible orders can the participants finish the race so that Meg finishes ahead of Bob?

A. 24 B. 30 C. 60 D. 90 E. 120

Total # of ways the race can be finished is 5!. In half of the cases Meg finishes ahead of Bob and in other half Bob finishes ahead of Meg. So, ways Meg to finish ahead of Bob is 5!/2=60.

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