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# The official salary for judges has always been too low

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The official salary for judges has always been too low [#permalink]

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Mel: The official salary for judges has always been too low to attract the best Candidates to the job. The legislatureтАЩs move to raise the salary has done nothing to improve the situation, because it was coupled with a ban on receiving money for lectures and teaching engagements.

Pat: No, the raise in salary really does improve the situation. Since very few judges teach or give lectures, the ban will have little or no negative effect.

PatтАЩs response to Mel is inadequate in that it

A. attempts to assess how a certain change will affect potential members of a group by providing evidence about its effect on the current members.
B. mistakenly takes the cause of a certain change to be an effect of that change.
C. attempts to argue that a certain change will have a positive effect merely
D.by pointing to the absence of negative effects simply denies MelтАЩs claim without putting forward any evidence in support of that denial
E. assumes that changes that benefit the most able members of a group necessarily benefit all members of that group.
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27 Apr 2004, 08:19
Marine,

I think you've mixed your answers up. I really think that the beginning of answer choice D is the phrase that completes C. It doesn't make much sense the way it's written.

C should be "attempts to argue that a certain change will have a positive effect merely by pointing to the absence of negative effects".

D should be "simply denies MelтАЩs claim without putting forward any evidence in support of that denial"

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27 Apr 2004, 21:01
Clearly, A is best.

Mel says: The official salary for judges has always been too low to attract the best Candidates to the job

A) says that the ban on receiving money for lectures and teaching engagements will not affect the situation and in that in fact, the raise in salary really does improve the situation. However, Pat's response is based on current members "Since very few judges [current judges] teach or give lectures..." This is not sufficient to explain how that ban will not hamper the recruitment of the best candidates as mentioned in Mel's argument.

D) Pat does give evidence to support his argument. "Since very few judges teach or give lectures, the ban will have little or no negative effect" is his argument although it is a weak one as explained above
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27 Apr 2004, 21:13
Paul wrote:
Clearly, A is best.

Mel says: The official salary for judges has always been too low to attract the best Candidates to the job

A) says that the ban on receiving money for lectures and teaching engagements will not affect the situation and in that in fact, the raise in salary really does improve the situation. However, Pat's response is based on current members "Since very few judges [current judges] teach or give lectures..." This is not sufficient to explain how that ban will not hamper the recruitment of the best candidates as mentioned in Mel's argument.

D) Pat does give evidence to support his argument. "Since very few judges teach or give lectures, the ban will have little or no negative effect" is his argument although it is a weak one as explained above

Hey Paul, here I go.

A here as well, the best answer, imo
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27 Apr 2004, 21:19
Welcome back lvb9th
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28 Apr 2004, 14:00
I demand that those who said D back up their answers
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28 Apr 2004, 14:04
Paul wrote:
I demand that those who said D back up their answers

gee is this an ultimatum??
Pat's response to Mel about salary is just an opinion without any evidence or convincing logic. Among all the options D comes pretty darn close IMHO.
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28 Apr 2004, 17:39
mirhaque wrote:
Paul wrote:
I demand that those who said D back up their answers

gee is this an ultimatum??
Pat's response to Mel about salary is just an opinion without any evidence or convincing logic. Among all the options D comes pretty darn close IMHO.

D.by pointing to the absence of negative effects simply denies MelтАЩs claim without putting forward any evidence in support of that denial

Pat states that very few judges teach, so he actually does put some evidence forward to back upi his statements. IMO, D is incorrect, and also incomplete
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05 May 2004, 19:01
Paul wrote:
I demand that those who said D back up their answers

hi Paul
apologies for being late in reverting back.
I do not posess the OA for this question, I got this CR frm a yahoo grp archive.
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Re: The official salary for judges has always been too low [#permalink]

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15 Jul 2012, 10:51

Pat explains that current Judges includes few who teaches or give lectures...whereas Mel was talking about attracting potential candidates which might want to go for teaching and lectures.

So mere raising salary govt. might not still get good quality of judges.....
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Re: The official salary for judges has always been too low [#permalink]

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22 May 2014, 08:36
Hi,
We need to weaken the argument stated by PAT,who states that the situation does improve buy citing a evidence about the few judges.

Now option E states that the changes (that is the raise in salary) will benefits most of able members of a group (that is few judges ) will benefits all members of that group.

So isn't it the correct assumption?

Just to know the rights reason to know eliminates this option.

Thanks
Re: The official salary for judges has always been too low   [#permalink] 22 May 2014, 08:36
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