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Mel: The official salary for judges has always been too low

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Mel: The official salary for judges has always been too low [#permalink] New post 19 Jun 2008, 03:32
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Mel: The official salary for judges has always been too low to attract the best
Candidates to the job. The legislature’s move to raise the salary hasdone nothing to improve the situation, because it was coupled with
a ban on receiving money for lectures and teaching engagements.
Pat: No, the raise in salary really does improve the situation. Since very few
judges teach or give lectures, the ban will have little or no negative
effect.
Pat’s response to Mel is inadequate in that it
A. attempts to assess how a certain change will affect potential members
of a group by providing evidence about its effect on the current members.
B. mistakenly takes the cause of a certain change to be an effect of that change
C. attempts to argue that a certain change will have a positive effect merely
by pointing to the absence of negative effects
D. simply denies Mel’s claim without putting forward any evidence in support
of that denial
E. assumes that changes that benefit the most able members of a group
necessarily benefit all members of that group.

Pat responds by reversing the reasoning for the failure of the raise, i.e. it is because of the fact that judges don't have teachers opportunities that the raise will have no impact and not the other way round. If my assumption is right then B should be the answer. I'll wait for your response. Thanks
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Re: cr - judges [#permalink] New post 19 Jun 2008, 04:50
alimad wrote:
Mel: The official salary for judges has always been too low to attract the best
Candidates to the job. The legislature’s move to raise the salary hasdone nothing to improve the situation, because it was coupled with
a ban on receiving money for lectures and teaching engagements.
Pat: No, the raise in salary really does improve the situation. Since very few
judges teach or give lectures, the ban will have little or no negative
effect.
Pat’s response to Mel is inadequate in that it
A. attempts to assess how a certain change will affect potential members
of a group by providing evidence about its effect on the current members.
B. mistakenly takes the cause of a certain change to be an effect of that change
C. attempts to argue that a certain change will have a positive effect merely
by pointing to the absence of negative effects
D. simply denies Mel’s claim without putting forward any evidence in support
of that denial
E. assumes that changes that benefit the most able members of a group
necessarily benefit all members of that group.

Pat responds by reversing the reasoning for the failure of the raise, i.e. it is because of the fact that judges don't have teachers opportunities that the raise will have no impact and not the other way round. If my assumption is right then B should be the answer. I'll wait for your response. Thanks


Hi Alimad I got B. My reasoning below.

Mel's response states that the ban on receiving money for lectures and teaching engagements (stated cause ) has had a negative effect (failed to raise the salary). However Pat states the opposite the cuase (ban on receiving money from lectures ....) will have liitle or no negative effect.

Thus, she mistakenly takes the cause of a certain change (ban on receiving money from lectures.....) to be an effect of that change having any negative effect on that change.
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Re: cr - judges [#permalink] New post 19 Jun 2008, 05:40
A.

As per MEL the move to increase salary is to attract new potential candidates.
Pat argues back but gives a reason which talks about current judges. Currently very few judges give lecture because may be they are satisfied with the currrent salary.....
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Re: cr - judges [#permalink] New post 19 Jun 2008, 07:32
alimad wrote:
Mel: The official salary for judges has always been too low to attract the best
Candidates to the job. The legislature’s move to raise the salary hasdone nothing to improve the situation, because it was coupled with
a ban on receiving money for lectures and teaching engagements.
Pat: No, the raise in salary really does improve the situation. Since very few
judges teach or give lectures, the ban will have little or no negative
effect.
Pat’s response to Mel is inadequate in that it
A. attempts to assess how a certain change will affect potential members
of a group by providing evidence about its effect on the current members.
B. mistakenly takes the cause of a certain change to be an effect of that change
C. attempts to argue that a certain change will have a positive effect merely
by pointing to the absence of negative effects
D. simply denies Mel’s claim without putting forward any evidence in support
of that denial
E. assumes that changes that benefit the most able members of a group
necessarily benefit all members of that group.



Its between C and D for me...In D Pat does say that there is a small group of judges who lecture or teach ...it seems he does provide evidence...

I will go with C for this one...Pat will thinks that the increase will have positive effects by faulty reasoning to state that it will not have any negative effect.
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Re: cr - judges [#permalink] New post 19 Jun 2008, 07:43
straight A...how do we know future judges wouldnt want to give lectures..A attacks the sample points of Pats argument..
Re: cr - judges   [#permalink] 19 Jun 2008, 07:43
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