Find all School-related info fast with the new School-Specific MBA Forum

It is currently 24 May 2016, 21:22
GMAT Club Tests

Close

GMAT Club Daily Prep

Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.

Events & Promotions

Events & Promotions in June
Open Detailed Calendar

MGMAT SC say that one should keep the "that" after

  new topic post reply Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics  
Author Message
TAGS:

Hide Tags

Intern
Intern
avatar
Joined: 27 Jun 2010
Posts: 7
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 2 [0], given: 0

MGMAT SC say that one should keep the "that" after [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 07 Sep 2010, 17:24
00:00
A
B
C
D
E

Difficulty:

(N/A)

Question Stats:

0% (00:00) correct 0% (00:00) wrong based on 1 sessions

HideShow timer Statistics

MGMAT SC say that one should keep the "that" after a reporting verb. But what should one do with verbs like "claims" and "declare" -- they're said to be better without the "that".

Leo claims vanilla is the best ice cream flavor.

or

Leo claims THAT vanilla is the best ice cream flavor.
Retired Moderator
User avatar
Status: I wish!
Joined: 21 May 2010
Posts: 788
Followers: 110

Kudos [?]: 374 [0], given: 33

Re: Reporting Verb Confusion [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 08 Sep 2010, 04:30
Welcome to the GMATCLUB, anandkapur!

Let me explain a little bit. I think MGMAT SC has clearly explained that you need to put THAT after reporting verbs. Claimed That and Declared That are better options.

Leo claims vanilla is the best ice cream flavor.

One problem with above sentence is that one may gets confused for an instance that Leo claims vanilla
i.e. the sentence may appear as if Leo has won the claim over vanilla when one wants to say something else.

say that anandkapur you used this construction, but I doubt whether this is right construction or not, as MGMAT says you don't need to put THAT after verb say. May be I'm missing something, I hope other members will help me with this confusion.

Anyhow, welcome again in the world of GMATCLUB! :)
Hope to see you around.

anandkapur wrote:
MGMAT SC say that one should keep the "that" after a reporting verb. But what should one do with verbs like "claims" and "declare" -- they're said to be better without the "that".

Leo claims vanilla is the best ice cream flavor.

or

Leo claims THAT vanilla is the best ice cream flavor.

_________________

http://drambedkarbooks.com/

Manager
Manager
avatar
Joined: 27 Mar 2010
Posts: 124
Followers: 2

Kudos [?]: 7 [0], given: 17

Re: Reporting Verb Confusion [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 09 Sep 2010, 18:13
kissthegmat wrote:
Welcome to the GMATCLUB, anandkapur!

Let me explain a little bit. I think MGMAT SC has clearly explained that you need to put THAT after reporting verbs. Claimed That and Declared That are better options.

Leo claims vanilla is the best ice cream flavor.

One problem with above sentence is that one may gets confused for an instance that Leo claims vanilla
i.e. the sentence may appear as if Leo has won the claim over vanilla when one wants to say something else.

say that anandkapur you used this construction, but I doubt whether this is right construction or not, as MGMAT says you don't need to put THAT after verb say. May be I'm missing something, I hope other members will help me with this confusion.

Anyhow, welcome again in the world of GMATCLUB! :)
Hope to see you around.

anandkapur wrote:
MGMAT SC say that one should keep the "that" after a reporting verb. But what should one do with verbs like "claims" and "declare" -- they're said to be better without the "that".

Leo claims vanilla is the best ice cream flavor.

or

Leo claims THAT vanilla is the best ice cream flavor.
[/quote


Didn't get it clear still!!!
Retired Moderator
User avatar
Status: I wish!
Joined: 21 May 2010
Posts: 788
Followers: 110

Kudos [?]: 374 [0], given: 33

Re: Reporting Verb Confusion [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 10 Sep 2010, 22:08
I think, someone will come fwd to explain this.
_________________

http://drambedkarbooks.com/

Intern
Intern
avatar
Joined: 27 Jun 2010
Posts: 7
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 2 [0], given: 0

Re: Reporting Verb Confusion [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 27 Sep 2010, 21:02
The newest ed of the MGMAT SC guide clarifies this. Reporting verbs must be followed with THAT.
1 KUDOS received
Manhattan GMAT Instructor
User avatar
Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 185
Schools: MBA, Thunderbird School of Global Management / BA, Wesleyan University
Followers: 90

Kudos [?]: 167 [1] , given: 7

Re: Reporting Verb Confusion [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 29 Sep 2010, 23:01
1
This post received
KUDOS
Good discussion here...thanks for bringing up this issue. The first thing to explain here is what a "reporting verb" is. Essentially, it's a verb that reports or otherwise includes a thought or belief. Examples of "reporting verbs" are indicate, claim, announce, or report.

When you are reporting a clause (includes a verb), you need "that":

"The students reported that they felt great."
"The lab results indicate that your theory is correct."
"The King claimed that he had turned lead into gold."

When you don't have a verb following the word, you don't need "that":

"I reported my friend for cheating."
"I indicated disbelief."
"The defendant claimed innocence despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary."

Does this help clear up the issue?
_________________


Brett Beach-Kimball | Manhattan GMAT Instructor

Manhattan GMAT Discount | Manhattan GMAT Reviews

Retired Moderator
User avatar
Status: I wish!
Joined: 21 May 2010
Posts: 788
Followers: 110

Kudos [?]: 374 [0], given: 33

Re: Reporting Verb Confusion [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 30 Sep 2010, 02:48
Thanks BKimball. Yes, you made it clear. Thanks again!
_________________

http://drambedkarbooks.com/

Retired Moderator
avatar
Joined: 03 Aug 2010
Posts: 247
Followers: 2

Kudos [?]: 33 [0], given: 41

Re: Reporting Verb Confusion [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 30 Sep 2010, 08:40
Let me post something which may be helpful with respect to usage of THAT

When to Omit “that”

•You can omit “that” in a relative clause when the subject of the clause is different from the word or phrase the clause refers to.
Thus, you can say either
The book that I was reading (or)
The book I was reading

•You can also omit “that” when it introduces a subordinate clause
Ex: I think we should try again.

•You should NOT omit “that”, however, when the subordinate clause begins with an adverbial phrase or anything other than the subject:
Ex: She said that under no circumstances would she allow us to skip the meeting.
The book argues that eventually the housing supply will increase.
This last sentence would be ambiguous if that were omitted, since the adverb eventually could then be construed as modifying either argues or will increase.
_________________

http://www.gmatpill.com/gmat-practice-test/

Amazing Platform

Retired Moderator
avatar
Joined: 03 Aug 2010
Posts: 247
Followers: 2

Kudos [?]: 33 [0], given: 41

Re: Reporting Verb Confusion [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 30 Sep 2010, 08:45
BKimball wrote:
Good discussion here...thanks for bringing up this issue. The first thing to explain here is what a "reporting verb" is. Essentially, it's a verb that reports or otherwise includes a thought or belief. Examples of "reporting verbs" are indicate, claim, announce, or report.

When you are reporting a clause (includes a verb), you need "that":

"The students reported that they felt great."
"The lab results indicate that your theory is correct."
"The King claimed that he had turned lead into gold."

When you don't have a verb following the word, you don't need "that":

"I reported my friend for cheating."
"I indicated disbelief."
"The defendant claimed innocence despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary."

Does this help clear up the issue?


When you don't have a verb following the WORD, you don't need "that"

Which word this term WORD refer to ?
Do you mean the verb in above sentence as a fresh verb once reporting word is used ?
_________________

http://www.gmatpill.com/gmat-practice-test/

Amazing Platform

GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
User avatar
Joined: 01 Oct 2013
Posts: 7630
Followers: 709

Kudos [?]: 144 [0], given: 0

Premium Member
Re: MGMAT SC say that one should keep the "that" after [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 16 Oct 2015, 03:07
Hello from the GMAT Club VerbalBot!

Thanks to another GMAT Club member, I have just discovered this valuable topic, yet it had no discussion for over a year. I am now bumping it up - doing my job. I think you may find it valuable (esp those replies with Kudos).

Want to see all other topics I dig out? Follow me (click follow button on profile). You will receive a summary of all topics I bump in your profile area as well as via email.
Re: MGMAT SC say that one should keep the "that" after   [#permalink] 16 Oct 2015, 03:07
    Similar topics Author Replies Last post
Similar
Topics:
1 When travelling in a foreign country, one should always keep their pas zxcvbnmas 5 11 May 2016, 11:28
MGMAT SC Guide says "Do not use a comparative adjective rakesh.id 1 04 Sep 2012, 10:38
Experts publish their posts in the topic According to MGMAT SC, The word before and after indicate abhicoolmax 2 10 Jul 2011, 13:51
1 MGMAT SC Strategy says "Matt drives fast cars like his voodoochild 6 26 Mar 2011, 16:20
MGMAT SC study 0 13 Dec 2008, 01:27
Display posts from previous: Sort by

MGMAT SC say that one should keep the "that" after

  new topic post reply Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics  


GMAT Club MBA Forum Home| About| Terms and Conditions| GMAT Club Rules| Contact| Sitemap

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group and phpBB SEO

Kindly note that the GMAT® test is a registered trademark of the Graduate Management Admission Council®, and this site has neither been reviewed nor endorsed by GMAC®.