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B,c, E - has misplaced pronouns 'they'

Between A and D,

idiom compared should be X compared with Y, So "Minivans carry as many as seven passengers" cannot be compared with sport vehicles.

So D

Also A could be correct by introducing " relative pronoun" which by

Minivans which carry as many as seven passengers when compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.
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Pls help me understand this Q correctly...

Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.

A. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,
B. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, they cost less,
C. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, in comparison with most sport utility vehicles, and have a lower cost, they
D. Minivans, carrying as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,
E. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles the cost is lower, and they


I agree with D that it could be OA but has also flaws. I am between A and D but unsure whay D is OA.

A. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.

The problem with A is that it has two "and". "compared with most sport utility vehicles" modifies minivans not the whole clause "Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and" preceding it because there is "and" to make the seperation.

Subject (Minivans) + verb (carry) + (as many as seven passengers) and, modifying phrase (compared with most sport utility vehicles), verb (cost) less, verb (get) better gas mileage, verb (allow) passengers to get in and out more easily, and verb (have) a smoother ride.




D. Minivans, carrying as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.

D has two modifiers one after the other.

subject (Minivans), modifying phrase (carrying as many as seven passengers), modifying phrase (compared with most sport utility vehicles), verb (cost) less, verb (get) better gas mileage, verb (allow) passengers to get in and out more easily, and verb (have) a smoother ride.


Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.

A. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,
B. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, they cost less,
C. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, in comparison with most sport utility vehicles, and have a lower cost, they
D. Minivans, carrying as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,
E. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles the cost is lower, and they[/quote]

Seems the question is havily disputed! :shock:
What is the source? Does anybody has OE whatsoever?
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Pls help me understand this Q correctly...

Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.

A. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,
B. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, they cost less,
C. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, in comparison with most sport utility vehicles, and have a lower cost, they
D. Minivans, carrying as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,
E. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles the cost is lower, and they



D.

A: and is not needed
B: clunky, they is redundant
C: again they is redundant
E: need I say?



Official Answer is A which i disagree, It is gmatprep 1 question i did D but it was wrong. Damnnnn ı dont understand why it was
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I join the previous author. The OA in GMATprep1 is A, but I don't understand WHY???WHY????
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The first thing to remember here is that this is a test of list //ism. That said, we must decide how many lists are there and what their corresponding arms are?

Is it one list that contains five arms?

Or

Are there two lists, one containing one arm and the other containing four arms?

Further elaborated, the two issues are whether

A. Mini vans is the plural subject followed by one simple long list comprising 1)carry four passengers 2. Compared to SUVS cost less 3) gets better gas mileage and 4) allow passengers to get in and get out easily and 5 have a smoother ride

Or

B. Mini vans is the plural subject followed by list 1. Carry seven passengers and list no 2, compared to SUVS (1 cost less, 2 get better gas mileage 3 allow passengers to get in and get out easily and 4. have a smoother ride)

If we say it is one long, long list with five arms, then the structure will be subject + arm1, arm2, arm3, arm4 and arm 5. It may be noted none of the choices has this structure.

If it is a question of two lists, then the structure will be subject + list 1 and list 2 containing arm 1, arm 2, arm 3 and arm 4.

This is the typical structure in choice A. That is why it is the right answer.

Finally in D, the act of the participial phase “carrying as many as seven passengers, compared with most SUVs,” totally distorts the meaning of the original text by shifting the comparison to carrying capacity, rather than to other factors such as cost, mileage, ease and smoother ride between the two types of automobiles involved.
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@daagh - Great explanation. Thanks
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New post 02 Feb 2011, 06:30
daagh strikes again.... good explanation. :-D
couldn't have put it better myself
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Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.
A. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,
B. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, they cost less,
C. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, in comparison with most sport utility vehicles, and have a lower cost, they
D. Minivans, carrying as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,
E. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles the cost is lower, and they

Can somebody explain each of the options and why A is the answer.??
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To be honest, i do not know how A is the answer. But answer choices B,D and E can be eliminated because in these choices the subject 'Minivans' does not have a verb associated with it.
Choice C seems to have a modifier and parallelism error.
So A!!
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Pls help me understand this Q correctly...

Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.

A. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,
B. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, they cost less,
C. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, in comparison with most sport utility vehicles, and have a lower cost, they
D. Minivans, carrying as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,
E. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles the cost is lower, and they


IMO D)


OA given is D. I'm not sure if it is okay with having two participles (i.e. carrying~, compared~). I went to A since after the comma we have comparisons. Pls elaborate your answer further? Thanks.


I am confused. Is the OA 'A' or 'D'? Also can someone please elaborate the difference between 'A' & 'D' in details. Thanks in advance!!
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iMO : A - What is the intended meaning of the Sentence ? The sentence is trying to convey 2 things :
1) Minivans carry as many as Seven passengers
2) Compared to most SUV, cost less, etc etc

A. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, - Looks correct
B. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, they cost less, - Only those minivans which carry as many as seven passengers changes the intended meaning of the original sentence
C. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, in comparison with most sport utility vehicles, and have a lower cost, they - Parallelism
D. Minivans, carrying as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, - Similar to B
E. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles the cost is lower, and they - Similar to B
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Pls help me understand this Q correctly...

Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.

A. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,
B. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, they cost less,
C. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, in comparison with most sport utility vehicles, and have a lower cost, they
D. Minivans, carrying as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,
E. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles the cost is lower, and they


OA given is D. I'm not sure if it is okay with having two participles (i.e. carrying~, compared~). I went to A since after the comma we have comparisons. Pls elaborate your answer further? Thanks.


I am confused. Is the OA 'A' or 'D'? Also can someone please elaborate the difference between 'A' & 'D' in details. Thanks in advance!!


Hi,
OA has to be A...
A properly maintains parallelism ...
Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.

The problem in D is-
Minivans, carrying as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,--
Modifier over modifier is an error here..
the VERB+ing modifier is wrongly used here..
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The OA attached to the question is A, while most of the comments suggest the answer as D. May I know which one is the correct choice?
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The OA attached to the question is A, while most of the comments suggest the answer as D. May I know which one is the correct choice?


A is correct.

Using 2 modifiers one after the other is awkward and is generally wrong in GMAT. Chetan has already explained this in his post just above yours.
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Thanks @sayantc2k for your reply. I selected option A, but then I read comments suggesting otherwise. I thought better confirm it once again :)
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Though initially i also selected A but on rethinking D can be the answer

Will try to explain...

Since cost is uncountable so "less" is preferred over "lower". This leaves us with A,B and D. B has an ambiguous "they".

I think the author is not simply trying to compare minivans with SUVs rather he comparing a minivan loaded with 7 passenger with most SUVs. D does that comparison very well.

Does that make sense???

oops i took the Question otherways :roll:
anyways why cant be the comparison be of general minivans?

here there are two cases :
(1) general minivans
(2)minivas loaded with 7 and more people
Again in the question stem we are comparing minivans with other utility vehicles hence it makes sense if we compare minivans in general ,their capacity and cost efficiency etc. with other vehicles

I would like to know how we will decide among above two ,that is actual intent in the statement

is too many and s creating a problem in (A)



D is definitely wrong.
If we take the grammar aspect
carrying and compared are past and present participle modifiers that modify Minivans. Both are parallel but they should be connected by and not comma
Minivans, carrying as many as seven passengers and compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.
But even after taking grammar into account the intended meaning changes.
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clubzzang wrote:
clubzzang wrote:
Pls help me understand this Q correctly...

Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.

A. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,
B. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, they cost less,
C. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, in comparison with most sport utility vehicles, and have a lower cost, they
D. Minivans, carrying as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,
E. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles the cost is lower, and they


OA given is D. I'm not sure if it is okay with having two participles (i.e. carrying~, compared~). I went to A since after the comma we have comparisons. Pls elaborate your answer further? Thanks.


I am confused. Is the OA 'A' or 'D'? Also can someone please elaborate the difference between 'A' & 'D' in details. Thanks in advance!!


Though,I completely understand all the explanations of option A,I somewhat did not understand the parallelism in A.
In A : Minivans carry... and compared...
Here ,I feel that carry is a verb and compared is a verb-ed modifier.(because,minivans do not do the action of comparing,so "compared" is not a verb). So,how will a verb be parallel to a verb-ed modifier? Does it not violate the rule for parallelism?

Can someone please help me identify where I am going wrong in my understanding?
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OA given is D. I'm not sure if it is okay with having two participles (i.e. carrying~, compared~). I went to A since after the comma we have comparisons. Pls elaborate your answer further? Thanks.


I am confused. Is the OA 'A' or 'D'? Also can someone please elaborate the difference between 'A' & 'D' in details. Thanks in advance!!


Though,I completely understand all the explanations of option A,I somewhat did not understand the parallelism in A.
In A : Minivans carry... and compared...
Here ,I feel that carry is a verb and compared is a verb-ed modifier.(because,minivans do not do the action of comparing,so "compared" is not a verb). So,how will a verb be parallel to a verb-ed modifier? Does it not violate the rule for parallelism?

Can someone please help me identify where I am going wrong in my understanding?


The parallelism is not between "carry" and "compared". Here the two parallel verbs are "carry" and "cost". The basic structure of the sentence is as below:

Minivans carry passengers and cost less.

"compared with most sport utility vehicles" is a non-essential past participle (verb-ed) modifier, as you have correctly identified, and hence separated by two commas.
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