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Mistake in reading comprehension in MGMAT ? [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2012, 18:06
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Chapter 7: Passage and problem set
Passage C: Life on Mars

I think answer to question 1 and 5 are wrong.


Question 1: The author's stance ...... described as:
My answer : (A) Optimistic
Answer given in the book: (B) Disinterested

My argument: The last line of the 2nd paragraph clear states "These findings..... life on mars". Now, this line is author's interpretation. It describes what he thinks. So, he is clearly Optimistic!
I don't agree with books argument of why author is "Disinterested" (please check in the book!)

Question 5: Each of the following ....... EXCEPT
My answer : (B)
Answer given in the book:(E)

My argument: No where in the paragraph has the author stated anything about what happened prior to 17th century. Book explained earlier that don't infer info that's not given. So, clear option be fits the Answer.
Books Answer i.e (E) is clearly stated in the paragraph, there is limited support for water on life.
I clearly have one option that is not mentioned anywhere in the passage (B) compared to books answer (E) that's is talked about in the last paragraph.

Admin and all others please let me what you think it would really help me check my level of understanding of the passage.

thanks a lot

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Re: Mistake in reading comprehension in MGMAT ? [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2012, 05:21
Did you contact MGMAT about this?

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Re: Mistake in reading comprehension in MGMAT ? [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2012, 09:59
No, I haven't contacted mgmat about it.

I will email them today.

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Re: Mistake in reading comprehension in MGMAT ? [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2012, 10:51
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Maybe better discussed in the RC forum?
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Re: Mistake in reading comprehension in MGMAT ? [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2012, 10:54
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Here is what MGMAT has to say about it:
http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/rea ... 12786.html

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Let's see, a couple of questions upthread.

First, on the tone question, nonameee, I agree that you could make an argument for either answer A or answer B, although I think (if these questions were still on the GMAT), that they'd probably lean towards B on this one. As Sunil noted, the question asks for the author's opinion. The first paragraph provides evidence against the "life on Mars" theory and the second provides evidence for the theory. The author's opinion encompasses all of that data. The last sentence is the strongest one in favor of answer A, but the author merely says that the evidence "bolsters claims" (made by others, not the author).

Note: they've pretty much killed tone questions at this point, so really don't worry about it. :)

For the other question, it seems that you guys are referring to a question that isn't actually listed in any of the posts in this thread. We'd be happy to discuss - but do post the question. We have limited time on the forums, so we need to be able to answer in as streamlined a way as possible, and that requires the question text itself to be posted here. (Plus it helps other students to follow the discussion.) Thanks!

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Re: Mistake in reading comprehension in MGMAT ? [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2012, 13:42
It is funny because I as well made the mistakes on both question 1 and 5 of the same passage. I remember I agreed with MGMAT on the first question after a second look but was not sure about the later one.

The way I look at MGMAT problems is that they are not very good at matching the difficulty, or not to my way of thinking. To be more specific, given any chapter of MGMAT, I do a lot better in the OG questions than in MGMAT ones. Maybe MGMAT questions in the guides are intended to challenge you so by the time you move to the OG, the problems are a little easier. :wink:

So MGMAT problems are simply practice and do not look to much into it. Maybe their logic is a little different the GMACs, in the terms of creating actual questions/problems. However, I find MGMAT's guides amazing
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Re: Mistake in reading comprehension in MGMAT ? [#permalink] New post 13 Mar 2013, 10:10
I have the 5th edition of this book but I thought I'd put in my $.02 since I stumbled upon this thread anyways in my own study adventures over a year since the original post. Hopefully someone else can find it useful!

I also got the first question wrong on this passage because I too thought the author was more optimistic than disinterested. After all, he or she ended the passage saying how "these findings substantially bolster claims that there was once life on Mars". I did think the author took a neutral/fact-based/unbiased tone overall, but there was no (seemingly) neutral answer choice. I though disinterest meant dislike or distaste for, but that's not necessarily true! I could be disinterested in ballet but not dislike it, and still be able to write a factual piece on the matter. I think the lesson we're supposed to get from this is to not infer or assume the author's personal stance given the amount of information for life on mars/against it (especially if you the reader were swayed into thinking there was life on Mars because of the information presented in the article). Also, in getting this problem wrong, I was reminded to check the passage for any words that would indicate some sort of personal stance and to interpret disinterest as without interest (in one side or the other).

I think question 5 as presented in the book is fair. The answer choice is E ("The claim that there was once water on Mars has only limited and indirect support from recent discoveries") because the passage DID present recent and direct discoveries as to why there was once water on Mars. It talked about geological evidence of past water activity in the second to last sentence. While deciding on this answer, I thought of how many pieces of evidence (to evaluate the word "limited" in the answer choice) were actually in favor of if life once existed on Mars and all evidence supports it. "Wind erosion or carbon dioxide oceans may be responsible for these formations" are all other POSSIBLE but not definite explanations. What if there were no CO oceans etc, then that would mean that there was actually just regular H2O oceans and the debate would be over. My point is- there is more than a limited amount of recent evidence, all of which you can infer from the passage. As for the dispute over answer choice B), it states that "it is LIKELY that there were few significant discoveries...", and the passage itself states "as early as the mid-17th century". The answer choice does not rule out completely by saying that there weren't ANY discoveries, and therefore isn't too extreme of an answer to rule out. If I said that I started playing soccer AS EARLY AS the mid 1990's, I would assume that I didn't play soccer in 1989.

I used POE for a lot of these questions and it really helps me dissect what I can and can't infer from these problems.
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