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Most insomnia is not an illness or a physical condition so much as a symptom of another problem that may simply be a reaction to certain medications, anxiety about travel, or stress before a job interview.

A. an illness or a physical condition so much as a symptom of another problem that may simply be a reaction to certain medications
B. an illness or a physical condition so much as symptomatic of another problem that may be a simple one, like a reaction caused by certain medications
C. so much an illness or a physical condition but a symptom of another problem that may be as simple as when certain medications cause a reaction
D. so much an illness or a physical condition, but it is a symptom of another problem, maybe a simple one like certain medications causing a reaction
E. so much an illness or a physical condition but symptomatic of another problem, maybe simply a reaction to certain medications


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Hey Kaja,

It's actually about how the meaning changes based on the change in the modifier:

A. an illness or a physical condition so much as a symptom of another problem that may simply be a reaction to certain medications

PROBLEM: The modifier here is the relative clause starting with "that." It's modifying "problem". But the problem is not "a reaction to certain medications...". That's supposed to be an example of a similar problem, not the problem itself.

C. so much an illness or a physical condition but a symptom of another problem that may be as simple as when certain medications cause a reaction

ANSWER: See how here, the clause modifying "problem" is COMPARING the problem to these other issues, instead of equating them? That's what we want.

Hope that makes sense!

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Hey Kaja et. al.,

Okay. I take full blame for this. My first response up top, was just in response to your one question, and I'm still right there.

But looking at A and C, I disagree with myself passionately. I think the answer needs to be A. You can't say "not so much X but Y." The idiom is "not so much X as Y." This is enough to choose A. Beyond that, even though A has a lot of wacky wording (I should add I don't like this question at all), the "when" in C is a problem (not from a parallelism perspective, but general meaning).

So I apologize to everyone. The answer has to be A.

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Oh, and Munda, that's not quite right. You're thinking of SUBJECT-VERB AGREEMENT. The main subject of a sentence will never be within any modifier (prepositional phrase, participial phrase, etc.). However, part of a prepositional phrase can ABSOLUTELY be modified. Both of these sentences are correct.

The King of France, who makes fantastic cheese, is handsome.

The King of France, where I was born, is beautiful.

It's just a meaning issue, really. If there's ambiguity, it will be wrong.

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Re: SC : Insomnia [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2006, 22:03
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Most insomnia is not an illness or a physical condition so much as a symptom of another problem that may simply be a reaction to certain medications, anxiety about travel, or stress before a job interview.

A. an illness or a physical condition so much as a symptom of another problem that may simply be a reaction to certain medications
B. an illness or a physical condition so much as symptomatic of another problem that may be a simple one, like a reaction caused by certain medications
C. so much an illness or a physical condition but a symptom of another problem that may be as simple as when certain medications cause a reaction
D. so much an illness or a physical condition, but it is a symptom of another problem, maybe a simple one like certain medications causing a reaction
E. so much an illness or a physical condition but symptomatic of another problem, maybe simply a reaction to certain medications


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It's C.

Most insomnia is not so much an illness or a physical condition but a symptom of another problem that may be as simple as when certain medications cause a reaction, anxiety about travel, or stress before a job interview.

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 [#permalink] New post 14 Jul 2006, 22:41
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what about A ?

What "so much" is referring to??? Also its not ||.
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 [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2006, 04:21
not so much X, but Y~ is idiomatic.

Among C, D, and E, only C correctly uses a parallel noun comparison

an illness...a symptom

(C) is our winner.

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 [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2006, 16:28
good one. I got stumped. A seems to use the idiom incorrectly:

not A so much B
whereas it should be
not so much A but B
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 [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2006, 17:48
insomnia(illness) = symptom?
is it OK to say "illness is a symptom"?
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 [#permalink] New post 17 Jul 2006, 22:29
I think C is not ||

Consider this

that may be as simple as when certain medications cause a reaction, anxiety about travel, or stress before a job interview.

Clearly the above sentence is not ||.

I am inclined towards E.
Its || and uses the so much A but B structure clearly.
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 [#permalink] New post 17 Jul 2006, 22:37
jaynayak wrote:
I think C is not ||

Consider this

that may be as simple as when certain medications cause a reaction, anxiety about travel, or stress before a job interview.

Clearly the above sentence is not ||.

I am inclined towards E.
Its || and uses the so much A but B structure clearly.


OA is E..

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 [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2006, 07:20
E it is,

Can't be C since the use of the phrase 'that may be as simple as when certain medications cause a reaction, anxiety about travel, or stress before a job interview. ' is awkward and not parallel.

Not A because, 'so much' is misplaced.
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 [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2006, 07:40
I picked C as well... for the idiom and ||sm

in E symptomatic is an adjective, how can it be || to a noun illness :?

i don't get GMAT's logic sometimes... they ask for one thing and answer with another :x
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 [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2006, 08:21
Very Good Problem -

E is the only choice that retains both the idiomatic usage of Not so X but Y
and the correct parallelism cf -

reaction to certain medications,

anxiety about travel, or

stress before a job interview.

All three phrases are parallel noun phrases.
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Re: SC : Insomnia [#permalink] New post 10 Sep 2010, 08:13
Can the "not so much ...as...", be "not....so much as"?
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Re: SC : Insomnia [#permalink] New post 10 Sep 2010, 15:52
Hey Kaja,

As far as I know, yes.

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Re: SC : Insomnia [#permalink] New post 10 Sep 2010, 21:55
Idiom NOT X BUT Y - X & Y need to be parallel.

Most insomnia is not an illness or a physical condition so much as a symptom of another problem that may simply be a reaction to certain medications, anxiety about travel, or stress before a job interview.

A. an illness or a physical condition so much as a symptom of another problem that may simply be a reaction to certain medications - BUT is missing
B. an illness or a physical condition so much as symptomatic of another problem that may be a simple one, like a reaction caused by certain medications - BUT is missing
C. so much an illness or a physical condition but a symptom of another problem that may be as simple as when certain medications cause a reaction - illness - symptom are parallel
D. so much an illness or a physical condition, but it is a symptom of another problem, maybe a simple one like certain medications causing a reaction - illness - it is an illness - not parallel
E. so much an illness or a physical condition but symptomatic of another problem, maybe simply a reaction to certain medications - illness - symptomatic - not parallel
Answer - C
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Re: SC : Insomnia [#permalink] New post 11 Sep 2010, 07:39
I would go with C, E sounds awkward.

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Re: SC : Insomnia [#permalink] New post 11 Sep 2010, 17:29
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Hey Kaja,

It's actually about how the meaning changes based on the change in the modifier:

A. an illness or a physical condition so much as a symptom of another problem that may simply be a reaction to certain medications

PROBLEM: The modifier here is the relative clause starting with "that." It's modifying "problem". But the problem is not "a reaction to certain medications...". That's supposed to be an example of a similar problem, not the problem itself.

C. so much an illness or a physical condition but a symptom of another problem that may be as simple as when certain medications cause a reaction

ANSWER: See how here, the clause modifying "problem" is COMPARING the problem to these other issues, instead of equating them? That's what we want.

Hope that makes sense!

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hi!well....
about A
I think the that clause in choice A could modify "symptom" , as we can hardly break "of another problem" from"a symptom" I mean, if we wanna have a clause modify another sysptom, we can just put it right after "another problem", is it true?
But i agree that readers may think that clause is modifying "problem", where a little ambiguity raised,but we cannot help it.

about C
the when clause is not parallel with the non-underlined part,(anxiety ....,and stress from ....) is this a good choice?

about E
the problem of C is fixed in this choice, however, "systomatic of" is not parallel with "illness"........

Seems every choice has imperfection....which can we tolerate?
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Re: SC : Insomnia [#permalink] New post 13 Sep 2010, 04:17
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TommyWallach wrote:
Hey Kaja,

It's actually about how the meaning changes based on the change in the modifier:

A. an illness or a physical condition so much as a symptom of another problem that may simply be a reaction to certain medications

PROBLEM: The modifier here is the relative clause starting with "that." It's modifying "problem". But the problem is not "a reaction to certain medications...". That's supposed to be an example of a similar problem, not the problem itself.

C. so much an illness or a physical condition but a symptom of another problem that may be as simple as when certain medications cause a reaction

ANSWER: See how here, the clause modifying "problem" is COMPARING the problem to these other issues, instead of equating them? That's what we want.

Hope that makes sense!

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hi!well....
about A
I think the that clause in choice A could modify "symptom" , as we can hardly break "of another problem" from"a symptom" I mean, if we wanna have a clause modify another sysptom, we can just put it right after "another problem", is it true?
But i agree that readers may think that clause is modifying "problem", where a little ambiguity raised,but we cannot help it.

about C
the when clause is not parallel with the non-underlined part,(anxiety ....,and stress from ....) is this a good choice?

about E
the problem of C is fixed in this choice, however, "systomatic of" is not parallel with "illness"........

Seems every choice has imperfection....which can we tolerate?

Hi Tommy can u please answer Kaja's question on the logic behind questiob C as "medication cause a reaction " is followed by ", anxiety about travel, or stress before a job interview."

Kaja brings up the question of ambiguity over whether the "that clause modifies symptom or problem
but i have read that the subject of the verb in a sentence (in this case "be" in that clause) can never be an element in a prepositional phrase.
so "problem" in "of a problem" can not be the subject of "be".
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