Last visit was: 23 Apr 2024, 20:04 It is currently 23 Apr 2024, 20:04

Close
GMAT Club Daily Prep
Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History
Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.
Close
Request Expert Reply
Confirm Cancel
SORT BY:
Date
Intern
Intern
Joined: 31 Mar 2015
Posts: 31
Own Kudos [?]: 53 [1]
Given Kudos: 154
Location: United States (IL)
Concentration: Marketing, General Management
Schools: Sauder '20
GMAT Date: 06-26-2015
GMAT 1: 640 Q46 V32
GPA: 2.75
WE:Engineering (Computer Software)
Send PM
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Posts: 21846
Own Kudos [?]: 11664 [1]
Given Kudos: 450
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Send PM
Intern
Intern
Joined: 31 Mar 2015
Posts: 31
Own Kudos [?]: 53 [0]
Given Kudos: 154
Location: United States (IL)
Concentration: Marketing, General Management
Schools: Sauder '20
GMAT Date: 06-26-2015
GMAT 1: 640 Q46 V32
GPA: 2.75
WE:Engineering (Computer Software)
Send PM
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Posts: 21846
Own Kudos [?]: 11664 [0]
Given Kudos: 450
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Send PM
Re: My first GMAT Mock Test [#permalink]
Expert Reply
Hi shra1raju,

Based on everything that you have described - your studies, your recent practice CAT and your score goal - it seems that "your way" of studying for the GMAT is not working. To raise your score 260+ points, you are going to have to make some major changes to your approach. Self-studying from books has not worked for you, so you're probably going to need to invest in a GMAT Course of some type (either Guided Self-Study or Instructor-Led). Thankfully, you have plenty of time to continue studying before your application deadlines in January.

How much time can you spend on your studies during a typical week?

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
Intern
Intern
Joined: 31 Mar 2015
Posts: 31
Own Kudos [?]: 53 [0]
Given Kudos: 154
Location: United States (IL)
Concentration: Marketing, General Management
Schools: Sauder '20
GMAT Date: 06-26-2015
GMAT 1: 640 Q46 V32
GPA: 2.75
WE:Engineering (Computer Software)
Send PM
Re: My first GMAT Mock Test [#permalink]
Yes, I do have problem in my approach. On a typical week, I can spend 15hrs for GMAT prep.

Sometimes it feels like everything is wrong expect my desire to give GMAT exam.As you suggested, i need to join some course or a program to change my prep.

:(
Intern
Intern
Joined: 06 Apr 2015
Posts: 11
Own Kudos [?]: [0]
Given Kudos: 312
Send PM
Re: My first GMAT Mock Test [#permalink]
Hi!
I am in the same situation. My first mock - 480, I need at least 690-700.
I've been studying for 6 weeks (10-12 hours each day). The problem is I started learning English from zero 3 years ago (seriously started learning since last September), of course it's huge disadvantage.

I am using:
OG (it really helping me)
MGMAT SC, CR ( good, but unfortunately I don't have time)
Magoosh video lessons (very good Q, SC but CR is difficult for me).

Dear Rich, could you please kindly give a thought. Am I doing something wrong? And is it possible to achieve my target score near future?

P.S. I though I apply in first round but it seems absolutely impossible?

Posted from GMAT ToolKit
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Posts: 21846
Own Kudos [?]: 11664 [0]
Given Kudos: 450
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Send PM
Re: My first GMAT Mock Test [#permalink]
Expert Reply
Hi shra1raju,

There are plenty of GMAT Course options out there, depending on how you want to go about studying. Most GMAT Companies offer some type of free materials (practice problems, Trial Accounts, videos, etc.) that you can use to 'test out' a product before you buy it. We have a variety of those resources at out site (www.empowergmat.com). I suggest that you take advantage of all of them then choose the one that best matches your personality, timeline and budget.

If you have any additional question, then just let me know.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Posts: 21846
Own Kudos [?]: 11664 [0]
Given Kudos: 450
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Send PM
Re: My first GMAT Mock Test [#permalink]
Expert Reply
Hi yell2012,

You noted that you've been studying for 6 weeks, but when did you take that 1st CAT test? If it's been a few weeks since you've taken a CAT, then it make sense to take another so that we can see how you've improved. It's possible that you're making progress with your current study plan.

Scoring 690+ in the "near future" would require a 200+ point improvement, and that's not likely to happen too quickly. You would probably need at least another 3 months of consistent, guided study to hit that goal.

What were your Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores on your first CAT?

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
Intern
Intern
Joined: 06 Apr 2015
Posts: 11
Own Kudos [?]: [0]
Given Kudos: 312
Send PM
Re: My first GMAT Mock Test [#permalink]
Hi Rich, thank you for your reply!

I took my first mock 3 weeks ago (Q31, V26).
Obviously I have to improve both Q & V, definitely I have knowledge gap.
I am going to take mock again, but a little bit worrying, if I get same score it's definitely discourage me)

Could you tell me, should I change my study schedule Or materials etc.?

I desperately would like to apply in first round.
I am thinking, to take official test in July, even if I am not ready. In my view it's important experience the real exam or is it not good plan?

Best regards

Posted from GMAT ToolKit
Intern
Intern
Joined: 06 Apr 2015
Posts: 11
Own Kudos [?]: [0]
Given Kudos: 312
Send PM
Re: My first GMAT Mock Test [#permalink]
Additionally:

Rich, can I ask you, even if I spend on my studies 15 hours a day would I need at least another 3 month?

Posted from GMAT ToolKit
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Posts: 21846
Own Kudos [?]: 11664 [0]
Given Kudos: 450
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Send PM
Re: My first GMAT Mock Test [#permalink]
Expert Reply
Hi yell2012,

You're asking about a few different issues, so I'm going to answer your questions in order:

1) Taking FULL CATs on a regular basis is an essential part of the study process; doing so is really the only practical way to measure your progress. If it's been 3 weeks, then it's time to take another CAT.

2) Until we see those next CAT results, we won't know whether you have to change your study plans or not.

3) I think that spending $250 to take the GMAT when you're not *ready* to take it is NOT a good idea. Taking the GMAT in July won't hurt your applications, but it is unlikely that you'll improve enough in that time for that GMAT to be your last GMAT. If you're comfortable spending that money on a 'learning experience', then go right ahead.

4) Spending 15 hours a day on studying will almost certainly lead to 'burn out' and we do NOT want that to happen. Since you have not provided any information that proves that you're a 'fast learner', I have to assume that you would need 3+ months of additional study time to hit your goal scores.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
Intern
Intern
Joined: 31 Mar 2015
Posts: 31
Own Kudos [?]: 53 [0]
Given Kudos: 154
Location: United States (IL)
Concentration: Marketing, General Management
Schools: Sauder '20
GMAT Date: 06-26-2015
GMAT 1: 640 Q46 V32
GPA: 2.75
WE:Engineering (Computer Software)
Send PM
My first GMAT Mock Test [#permalink]
Thank you so much Rich for the link. I would like to definitely try almost all the courses to know which one suits me better.
:)

EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi shra1raju,

There are plenty of GMAT Course options out there, depending on how you want to go about studying. Most GMAT Companies offer some type of free materials (practice problems, Trial Accounts, videos, etc.) that you can use to 'test out' a product before you buy it. We have a variety of those resources at out site (https://www.empowergmat.com). I suggest that you take advantage of all of them then choose the one that best matches your personality, timeline and budget.

If you have any additional question, then just let me know.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
Intern
Intern
Joined: 06 Apr 2015
Posts: 11
Own Kudos [?]: [0]
Given Kudos: 312
Send PM
My first GMAT Mock Test [#permalink]
Rich, thank you very much

Originally posted by yell2012 on 30 Jun 2015, 03:22.
Last edited by yell2012 on 08 Jul 2015, 12:02, edited 1 time in total.
Intern
Intern
Joined: 06 Apr 2015
Posts: 11
Own Kudos [?]: [0]
Given Kudos: 312
Send PM
My first GMAT Mock Test [#permalink]
Hi, Rich

I need your help.. Finally, I took another CAT

At the beginning I would like to explain in detail:
1. Since 25.05.15 I've been doing self prep, 8-10 hours each day;
2. My Full CATs:
2.1. #1. 07.06.15. - 400 (Q11%/22%);
2.2. #2. 08.06.15 - 480 (without time limit)
2.3. #3. 07.07.15 - 520 (Q41%/V32%).

I am using:
1. Magoosh video lessons;
2. CR bible, Manhattan SC;
3. OG 15 (I solved only 15% tasks).

I need 700 and I have 6-8 weeks, but you already told me that I need at least 3 months :cry:
I can study at least 8-10 hours (a typical my working day), it's easy to me because I found this process interesting and I don't force myself.

Could you tell me, how can I effectively use the next (hope 6 weeks or 3 month) and should I changed my schedule, approach, recourse etc? Apparently, I am doing something wrong...
Please, could you suggest me effective approach, I need to apply in 1R.
If it's better for me I am ready to use empowergmat, economist or GMAT pills.

P.S. My biggest concern DS, CR, SC.

Thank you very much in advance!

Posted from GMAT ToolKit
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Posts: 21846
Own Kudos [?]: 11664 [1]
Given Kudos: 450
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Send PM
Re: My first GMAT Mock Test [#permalink]
1
Kudos
Expert Reply
Hi yell2012,

You've made some nice progress on your own, but it's unrealistic to expect to raise your score 180+ points in the next 6 weeks.

I think that the EMPOWERgmat Course would help you a great deal, but if you're going to "rush" through it, then it will be less effective. It still sounds like you're trying to do too much in a short period of time, but you have not explained WHY:

1) What dates are the specific application deadlines that you are considering (for Round 1)?
2) Besides those deadlines, are there any other reasons why you want/need to take the GMAT in August?

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
Intern
Intern
Joined: 06 Apr 2015
Posts: 11
Own Kudos [?]: [0]
Given Kudos: 312
Send PM
My first GMAT Mock Test [#permalink]
Hi, Rich

First deadline on 9 September 2015 (one of the top U.S. BS).
I was told that I need at least 640-650 (I am a woman, from underrepresented country, with not bad background), but I wouldn't like take a risk, and in my view I need at least 700 (cause in this BS median GMAT 730).

I need to take official test in August, because:
1. I think the chance of acceptance reduces if applicants go for R2 compared to R1.
2. I am changing my job and before to start working in a new place I can concentrate only GMAT prep process. Otherwise, since September I will not be able to spent more than 1 hour each day (probably one hour also too much optimistic, because I'll br at work at least 10-12 hours).


I know, 180+ it's almost impossible, but when I think that 9 month ago I almost couldn't read in English and now I spend 3-4 min. to read a passage (I'm making not much mistakes thanks to Scientific American), seems nothing impossible to him who will try.

Thank you!

Posted from GMAT ToolKit
Manager
Manager
Joined: 28 Aug 2011
Posts: 61
Own Kudos [?]: 13 [0]
Given Kudos: 18
Location: United States
Concentration: Healthcare, Strategy
GMAT 1: 700 Q47 V38
WE:Account Management (Pharmaceuticals and Biotech)
Send PM
Re: My first GMAT Mock Test [#permalink]
Yell,

I like your optimism. I am pulling for you to do well. A few things to note:

- Keep working on the basic concepts and specifically target the concepts to bother you.
- Keep reading dense(r) magazines such as the Economist, New Yorker, Atlantic, etc.
- Above all else, just keep practicing as much as possible. On the GMAT, the more questions that you can relate to questions that you have done in the past, the better you will be able to handle the GMAT.

Good luck!
Intern
Intern
Joined: 06 Apr 2015
Posts: 11
Own Kudos [?]: [0]
Given Kudos: 312
Send PM
My first GMAT Mock Test [#permalink]
Thank you for your feedback!!!

After your message I really started to doubt myself:)

To flesh out the training plan, could you please kindly tell me, should I take empowergmat or continue in the current program? You've mentioned that if I rush myself it would be less effective (with empowergmat) and I can't decide should i try to use this program.

Sum up, after few weeks if I don't see any progress I won't rush myself and will take min 3 month for it as you suggest me.

Best regards, Sabina

Posted from GMAT ToolKit
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Posts: 21846
Own Kudos [?]: 11664 [0]
Given Kudos: 450
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Send PM
Re: My first GMAT Mock Test [#permalink]
Expert Reply
Hi Sabina,

When planning to apply to highly-ranked and highly-competitive programs, it often helps to discuss your applications/plans with an Admissions Expert. There's a Forum full of them here:

ask-admission-consultants-124/

Most Experts will tell you that 'the higher your GMAT score, the better'; this is true in the general sense, but your OVERALL application and 'uniqueness' as an applicant will also play an important part in convincing the Admissions Committees whether to invite you or not. That means that rushing to submit an average application for Round 1 is not a great idea IF you can assemble a fantastic application for Round 2.

As such, you can continue studying now and get as much done as you are reasonably capable of. As you get closer to the Round 1 deadline, you can adjust your plans as needed.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
Intern
Intern
Joined: 06 Apr 2015
Posts: 11
Own Kudos [?]: [0]
Given Kudos: 312
Send PM
Re: My first GMAT Mock Test [#permalink]
Rich, hi
Thank you! I highly appreciate your feedback.

Posted from GMAT ToolKit
GMAT Club Bot
Re: My first GMAT Mock Test [#permalink]
 1   2   
Moderator:
Founder
37300 posts

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group | Emoji artwork provided by EmojiOne