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My Road to Oxford SBS and INSEAD

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Re: My Road to Oxford SBS and INSEAD [#permalink] New post 19 Apr 2010, 08:03
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Hi All. I have been accepted at SBS and am awaiting my result at Insead. ( completed inetrviews). I know Oxford has great brand value outside the industry and Insead is Ultra elite within teh circles of business. But what about the actual teaching. I am looking forward learning about business. I had visited an Insead open day as well as a business forum organised by Oxford in Delhi. Maybe I am comparing apples with oranges, but I strongly felt that the ease Insead seems to exhibit in undertsanding of business somewhere did not compare with Oxford's.
Does any one have any thoughts?


Hi tutu... i applied to R3! Do you have an idea of how long it took to hear back from the school about the interview decision? Are you an R3 or R2 applicant?
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Re: My Road to Oxford SBS and INSEAD [#permalink] New post 20 Apr 2010, 13:15
I am an R 3 candidate and i received an interview invite on the 16th
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Re: My Road to Oxford SBS and INSEAD [#permalink] New post 20 Apr 2010, 13:41
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I am an R 3 candidate and i received an interview invite on the 16th


wow... that was quick... you interviewed on 16th and got accepted in 2-3 days...?!?! I am still waiting for my invite! (fingers crossed!)
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Re: My Road to Oxford SBS and INSEAD [#permalink] New post 20 Apr 2010, 23:55
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I am an R 3 candidate and i received an interview invite on the 16th


wow... that was quick... you interviewed on 16th and got accepted in 2-3 days...?!?! I am still waiting for my invite! (fingers crossed!)




No , I got an interview invite on 16th March, was interviewed by 24th March and am still waiting. verry very nervous. What about you
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Re: My Road to Oxford SBS and INSEAD [#permalink] New post 12 May 2010, 14:23
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Hi All,

I have been accepted into a couple of programs for 2010, and I just wanted to share my experiences getting to this point. Specifically, I want to give back to the forums here and address the low GPA issue I had to face personally in my MBA applications. I hope my story can be both helpful and inspirational to everyone here.

It was less than a year ago when I was eagerly researching these forums myself, trying to assess my chances for an MBA. I still vividly remember the euphoria of scoring a 760 on my GMAT, and then falling back down to earth when faced with the reality that I had about a 1.9 GPA, out of a scale of 4. That is about the lowest GPA I’ve ever seen or heard of accepted into any MBA program anywhere, and it certainly was far lower than anything I’ve seen on the forums.

I still remember reading posts on forums by some guys who were worried that they have a below 3 GPA, but there was literally no information anywhere on the web about anyone with a really horrendously low GPA like mine. Now how did I manage to get such a low GPA? Well I was 15 when I was accepted into university on a full scholarship, since I did extremely well in high school. However, I just decided to not do any work at all during university, since I already had a full scholarship and I didn’t feel like I cared enough about school/classes to study. To me, the materials they were teaching weren’t interesting at all, and so during my undergrad years, I just completely ignored the studying and did just enough to pass without going on academic probation. So now, during my applications, while I felt confident in my work experience and GMAT score, I felt my GPA could potentially seal my fate and keep me from getting into the competitive programs.

I’ve been through this whole grad school application thing before. A few years ago, while I was still fresh out of undergrad, I took the LSAT, scored very high on it, and applied for law school. Thankfully, I didn’t get into most programs except some tier 2 & 3 schools that I had no real interest in going. However, this was when I first felt the pain of my low GPA, as I would’ve been a likely candidate for top 10 programs with a higher GPA. Looking back of course, it’s great that I didn’t go to law school, as I am much happier in business.

Yet, given my previous experiences, when it came to MBA apps, I was still pretty skeptical about my GPA issue. I knew that MBA adcoms weighed work experience and GMAT a lot more than undergrad GPA, and while that made my application more competitive, I also knew that this was pretty much my last good chance of getting a graduate degree from a good program (given my career progression so far, I would’ve been happy to just continue with my progress at my current job if I didn’t get into an MBA this year…so this was really pretty much it for me – get into an MBA in 2010 or take a promotion in my current job and stick with my company).

After talking to various admissions consultants, I got mixed reviews. A lot of them said I had no chance at top programs, but some said that my profile was interesting enough that I’d be competitive at the non-H/S/W schools. This was encouraging, so I gave it my shot and applied to a group of top programs, both US and international. I worked very hard on polishing my essays and really dissecting my case to the adcoms to show them that I am now ready for an MBA. I tried hard to prove that my undergrad was not a true reflection of my potential or my aptitude, and that really, I’m capable of much more, as shown in my work progression and test scores.

It definitely helped that I had a solid case other than my GPA. I was promoted at work last year and was a key driver to help turn around the profitability of our business. I was offered another promotion recently, on the condition that I put my MBA plans aside for a couple of yrs, which I turned down. I also have a good GMAT, as well as a reasonable/plausible excuse for a terrible undergraduate GPA (I mean, after all, 15 is YOUNG). I also have a clearly defined career path and career goals, which makes the MBA a necessary step along the way. So in my essays, I tried my best to throw all that info together and sell myself in the best light I could.

In the end, it has worked out really well for me. I now have 2 offers from excellent programs, and while I have been denied at some schools, I’m happy to be in the situation I am in now. When I started my applications, I told myself that 1 acceptance is all I need to change my life and push myself forward. So while I would’ve liked to get into an ultra-elite program such as Wharton, I’m more than happy to have offers from Oxford and INSEAD. Given my international background and my work experience overseas, I really believe these two programs are much better suited for my career than the top US programs (with the exception of Wharton).

Now, I’d like to share my story with everyone else here that might have a slight weakness or short fall in their application, and I’ll say this: don’t give up and don’t sell yourself short. Aim for the stars and give it your best shot, and remember, all you need is 1 acceptance letter to really change your life. I’m pretty sure I have one of the ABSOLUTE WORST GPA’s out of anyone applying to business schools anywhere, but yet, I still made it into some pretty decent programs. You can all do the same, whatever the shortcomings of your profiles might be. Just try to think of it this way, what’s done is done, and can’t be changed, but what you can do is focus on the other aspects of your application and improving yourself, whether it’s work experience, GMAT, interview skills, essay writing, getting a professional designation, or taking a few part time courses to address your GPA. By focusing on things you can control, you’ll give yourself the best possible opportunity to get into a program that’ll be suitable for you, and you’ll be surprised by the results of your efforts.
Here’s to all the future applicants – good luck!

Cheers,

DrS


Great post. I hope you may answer my following questions.

1. Is investment banking your ultimate goal after MBA?
2. What other top-tier U.S. MBA schools could you have been accepted to if it's for IB?
3. What kind of work did you do post-bachelor?
4. How did you even find a job post-bachelor with such a low GPA?

Thanks ahead of time for taking time reading this post and answering my questions.
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Re: My Road to Oxford SBS and INSEAD [#permalink] New post 27 May 2010, 09:33
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post. I hope you may answer my following questions.

1. Is investment banking your ultimate goal after MBA?
2. What other top-tier U.S. MBA schools could you have been accepted to if it's for IB?
3. What kind of work did you do post-bachelor?
4. How did you even find a job post-bachelor with such a low GPA?

Thanks ahead of time for taking time reading this post and answering my questions.


Hey there, been a while since I checked this thread, but here it goes.

1. Not specifically IB, more S&T or IM/AM. But with specific focus on Asia since I have experience out there and I'm of Chinese descent.
2. Not sure, I didn't have a lot of luck with the US schools I applied to but in my case it worked out well because I wanted a more international focus for my career anyways.
3. I started off working in a F/X company in Toronto, then moved to a major Canadian bank doing mid-office work in derivatives, then worked as an Investment Advisor in Asia dealing with high net worth private clients, then back to Toronto to work as a Business Analyst in an major advertising agency, and last yr I was promoted to Finance Manager within the agency (with another offer for promotion to Account Director on the condition that I postpone my MBA plans - which I declined). So I've jumped around a bit across industries but I've done pretty well over the last 2.5 yrs or so within the advertising industry and have been offered consecutive promotions. I've also had really good success turning around the profitability of the businesses as Finance Manager.
4. Networking. That's pretty much how it always works.
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Re: My Road to Oxford SBS and INSEAD [#permalink] New post 06 Sep 2010, 05:47
That was a very very aspiring post ! thanks for sharing !
At first I was certain you typed 1.9 by mistake when in fact you meant 2.9 which is also on the low side but then I was seriously amazed.
I don't like my 3.42 either even though I'm an early graduate because like you I wasn't motivated to study. Graduate studies wasn't an option back then and family connections alone where I come from could get you your dream job not a high GPA so when I got the green light to pursue Masters and PhD I felt like I got cheated out of 3.9x GPA that I was certain I could get.
While after your post I won't change where I'm planning to apply for MSF (I don't like Princton's & MIT MSFs) I will definitely try to get in a top school for my finance Phd. Your story is very motivating and one that i'll share today at dinner since my two sisters are planning to re-do their BA with GPA around 2.8 to get an admit and they aren't even thinking top 30 schools ! You just saved them 4 years of their life !

Amazing post ,, thank again
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Re: My Road to Oxford SBS and INSEAD [#permalink] New post 15 Sep 2010, 20:39
DrSatisfaction,
Your post is really inspiring!!!
BTW, do you know why you got dinged at LBS? :(
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Re: My Road to Oxford SBS and INSEAD [#permalink] New post 07 Oct 2010, 10:46
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DrSatisfaction,
Your post is really inspiring!!!
BTW, do you know why you got dinged at LBS? :(


pretty sure it was purely the gpa. i think you'll have a much better chance than me based on pure grades.
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Re: My Road to Oxford SBS and INSEAD [#permalink] New post 07 Oct 2010, 13:02
From what I hear left and right, INSEAD is best suited for people who target McKinsey, BCG, Bain et al.
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Re: My Road to Oxford SBS and INSEAD [#permalink] New post 05 Nov 2010, 07:19
wow,really inspiring post.. thanks for sharing DrS :)
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Re: My Road to Oxford SBS and INSEAD [#permalink] New post 18 Apr 2012, 10:16
Great post, thanks for the share!
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