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18 Jun 2011, 09:59
i have noticed in my test attempts that i tend to go wrong on rcs's that occur in the end
like somewhere in the range of qno 35- 41 especially due to time crunch.Is there any special pacing strategy one can apply for these end rc's
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20 Jun 2011, 11:08

In my first briefing, I mentioned about creating grid in the laminated sheets. It really helped me to pace myself. I am copying the strategy below. At first, it seems to be a drag, but believe me if you want to improve your pace, this strategy will surely work. The idea is to keep tab of SC, CR, and RC questions that you have attempted. If you are behind, you need to follow the educated guess and skip SC or CR so taht you have enough time for RC. Remember, RC is more important that CR and SC. And never makes series of mistakes. For example, if you skip SC since you didn't have time or understand the reasoning, make every effort to solve the next problem - whether CR or SC ( although you will be tempted to skip the next question if it is CR. But don't do it.)

F) Manhattan's Test Simulation Booklet - Now this is important. I don't think that I have heard people talking about how to use the sheet during the exam wisely. This is what I did. First I prepared time metric for both quant and verbal. This time metric basically helped to gauge my speed. For example, according to my qunat metric , I should finish question 10 in first 20 mins. I joted down the quant metrics from page 1 to 9 and the verbal metics on page 10. Also, I created three sets of grids - one for RC, CR and SC on the page 10. I used grid to answer the verbal questions. And I also used to find out how many CR, SC and RC questions that I have attempted. Just to give you the advantage of drawing this grid, after I finish my fourth RC in GMAT, I knew exactly how many CRs and SCs I had to attempt. Why I am telling this now in this section? During my mock test, I practiced this so I remember doing this on the actual test.

Let me know if this works for you.

i have noticed in my test attempts that i tend to go wrong on rcs's that occur in the end
like somewhere in the range of qno 35- 41 especially due to time crunch.Is there any special pacing strategy one can apply for these end rc's

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20 Jun 2011, 18:47
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A recent report determined that only five percent of all homeowners in Stockton have outfitted their homes with burglar alarms. However, of the Stockton homes that have been burglarized within the last five years, 25 percent were outfitted with such alarms during the burglaries. Clearly, Stockton homeowners who outfit their homes with burglar alarms are more likely to become victims of burglary than are those who do not.

The conclusion above depends on which of the following assumptions?

* The number of homes in Stockton that were burglarized within the last five years is greater than the number of homes equipped with burglar alarms. (Time Fallacy)
* A significant number of the homes in Stockton that were burglarized within the last five years were burglarized more than once within this time period. (Time Fallacy)
* Homes that have been burglarized within the last five years are more likely to be burglarized than are homes that have not been burglarized within the last five years.
* Homeowners who outfit their homes with burglar alarms are less likely to become victims of burglary than are homeowners who have not installed such alarms.
* Homeowners in Stockton who have outfitted their homes with burglar alarms are more likely to be victims of burglary than homeowners with burglar alarms living in other similar cities . (Place Fallacy)

Ans C - So if you able to understand the fallacy, you can eliminate three answer choices just like that. Cool. Don't you think!!

@talk2vj- I understand that E is an example of place fallacy but how A and B are examples of 'time fallacy'?

1. Premise1- 5%Home= HomeWAlarms
2. Premise2- 25%BurgHomes in last 5 yrs= Y%(HomeWAlarms)
Therefore, HomeWAlarms are more vulnerable.

A an B are using the same time frame which premises are using. Are you saying that conclusion is not about 'past 5 years' but about 'present' time?

Can you give more examples or point to more examples using time fallacy, place fallacy and distance fallacy?
Also, can you explain about CR questions using >=4 entities and trying to trick with wrong comparisons? Let me know if I'm asking too much in one post ?
Is it time to add time, place, and distance in GMATClub? I'll request BB.
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21 Jun 2011, 17:00
talk2vij,can u explain a little more about grid or perhaps post a sample document of it so that i can understand a little more about it
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21 Jun 2011, 19:03
Thanks rg1 to pointing it out. You were right on. I corrected the problem. Sorry, I didn't read the argument. Just looked into the answer choices and thought lucky to find both fallacies in the same question, which is rare.

I have fixed the description and provided an example for the time fallacy. And as you mentioned, if the argument has mentioned the time frame and the same time frame is used in the answer choice, it will unlikely fall under the time fallacy.

Let me go through the OG books to point out the fallacies.

I do want to mention about the "Stockton" CR. The choice A is having the percentage/number fallacy for which I recommend to refer to the PowerScore CR bible. Let me know if you have any question.

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A recent report determined that only five percent of all homeowners in Stockton have outfitted their homes with burglar alarms. However, of the Stockton homes that have been burglarized within the last five years, 25 percent were outfitted with such alarms during the burglaries. Clearly, Stockton homeowners who outfit their homes with burglar ala.................................Is it time to add time, place, and distance in GMATClub? I'll request BB.

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21 Jun 2011, 20:02
talk2vij,can u explain a little more about grid or perhaps post a sample document of it so that i can understand a little more about it

No problem Adhithya. Here it is. Due to procrastination, I scanned the existing grid that I created during the practice. But I add the comments for better understanding. So that you are clear, here is more information -

Red Frame - What you see in the red frame are three sections - RC , CR , and SC.Also, I have created the grid with answer choices A, B , C, D, and E.

Blue Frame - The numbers under the blue frame are the question numbers marked from 1 to 14 for RC and CR and 1 to 17 for SC. Just assume that you will get 13 to 14 RC questions. But the number of CR and SC questions varies. It depends on many factors. After you do each question, strike off the number. For example, when you start the verbal test, let's say, you get SC first. Solve it and then strike off. Then you get CR. Solve CR and then strike off. If you do this, you can
1) predict how many CR or SC questions you will get after, say Question No 30. It will come by practice.
2) maintain your pace. One thing is not visible here is the time table that I drew on the right edge of the page. It has the range of question , say 1 to 8, and then how many mins I can spend, say, 16 mins. So the table will look like

1 - 8 - (16) 75 to 60 ( 75 and 60 are the time on the timer)

To maintain the pace, you need to solve the questions within the time frame defined in the table. If you are far behind, you need to either rev up your pace or skip. If you are planning to skip and you are , say, at question 33, refer to the grid. If you have already got four RCs ( or solve 12 to 14 RC questions... refer to your strikes) and you have 10 mins left, you know that you will get only CR or SC. Accordingly, you can solve SC and skip CR. Atleast, you don't have to worry about the RC.

Green Frame - What you are seeing the green grid is the time from the timer. When I get RC, I jot down the time from the timer. WHen I finish the RC, I jot down the time again. Then I mentally calculate the time difference. If I took more than expected, I know that I need to speed up. This is how you will maintain your pace.

White Grid - What you see in the white grid are two shapes - circle and cross. I use circle "O" against the answer choice if I think it to be the potential answer. And I use cross "X" if I know for sure the answer is wrong. If you see blank, it means that I found the answer.

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26 Jun 2011, 15:48
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26 Aug 2011, 18:26
Great tips on RC dude! You are a rock star in RC man - you did 20 LSAT paper, wow! You had ton of patience
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26 Aug 2011, 20:45
Thanks Abhicool. I am glad you like it. By the way, best of luck for your exam.
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27 Aug 2011, 11:25
Excellent Debrief of a GMAT journey. WoW - Loved it !!!

"Remember this - first mistake shows ignorance, second mistake shows chance, and third mistake shows arrogance. So if you are making the same mistake more than twice, rethink your strategy." - Really cool. Do you mind if I borrow this quote for some days ? Alas no name to put the author of this quote.

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27 Aug 2011, 16:40
krishp84 - Thank you. You can certainly use the quote.
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24 Oct 2011, 21:39
grt help....thanx a ton.........
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24 Oct 2011, 21:53
Amazing debrief.....ur debrief is like after battle a soldier returns home and narrate d entire episode, i am sure this debrief will work for most......
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Three good RC strategies http://gmatclub.com/forum/three-different-strategies-for-attacking-rc-127287.html

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24 Oct 2011, 22:06
rajeevrks27 - Thank you.
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26 Nov 2011, 21:31
Great post, especially mentioning Evernote, I have found it to be a perfect tool for taking notes, keeping an error log, and organizing thoughts for application essays!
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28 Nov 2011, 23:27
excellent debrief
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28 Nov 2011, 23:32
Thank you, Sandeep and branko89
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20 Apr 2012, 13:46
Good detail... Great debrief ! !
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20 Apr 2012, 13:58
Thanks for the inspirational story, since it showed the determination and the grit you possessed in wanting to kill the beast. I am struggling a little bit with my practice tests as my highest has been a 580, but I strongly believe that with a little more practice and more courage, I will be able to cross the threshold of 700 and better. Thank you once again for this nice post and I hope to be able to emulate your example.
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