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Need help in deciding the right business school [#permalink] New post 19 Jan 2014, 05:50
Hello guys, I'm new to the forum and am having great difficulty deciding my future education plans. Currently doing my 3rd year bcom (distant) gave up on C.A a year back. Want to pursue MBA from a reputed school abroad.. And after this june final exams planning to dedicate my FULL time preparing GMAT/IELTS.

I know i don't have much options but still please suggest me what univ/GMAT score should i be looking at?

Please help me out guys, any help will be dearly appreciated. Also sorry mods if this is the wrong place to ask post such topic.

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Re: Need help in deciding the right business school [#permalink] New post 20 Jan 2014, 00:51
Anyone? :(

I visited a consultant today, He gave me a list of good universities. None of them top 10 or so. (NUS, Nanyang among them) He said you don't need GMAT to study in Singapore. Only good ~6.5-7.0 IELTS score will do just fine. Also for Insead and others min. 2 year work experience (which i don't have) Thoughts?
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Getting into top MBA programs without any work experience is next to impossible, however good your GMAT score and GPA. Most MBA programs require candidates to have atleast 3 years of work experience. If you really plan to do your masters soon after your graduation, you should think about MSc programs. If you plan on applying to LBS or INSEAD, you need to have a GMAT score of 700+. But business schools do not focus just on your GMAT scores. A lot of weightage is given to undergraduate GPA and leadership qualities. If you want to pursue an MBA, postpone your plan and get good job experience to strengthen your profile. You can download the free ebook on how to get into a top business school at http://www.interviewbay.com/mba/how-to- ... -ebook.php

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Re: Need help in deciding the right business school [#permalink] New post 27 Jan 2014, 23:43
Hi InterviewBay2,

Really appreciate the reply. Will give it a read.
But do you think doing MBA course from Nanyang or NUS is worth it straight after my BCom? As it doesn't require either GMAT or work experience just IELTS and good GPA.
Will i be able to get a good to decent job after getting MBA degree in India or Singapore?
If not a job, what more can i explore in my education career like Phd courses?

Awaiting your response.
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Getting into business schools in US and Europe without work experience is not possible. So right now, if you wish to pursue an MBA, NUS and NTU are good options. Employment statistics for NUS and NTU full time MBA students are decent. The first thing you need to decide is a career goal. Doing an MBA or a PhD for the sake of doing something makes no sense. You need to start making decisions based on your goals. Also, business schools look for candidates who have a post-mba goal. So set your goals and then take a step in that direction.

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I would also say that an MBA directly out of undergrad makes little sense. The entire idea behind the MBA is to "finally" take real world experience and do the class room again. This experience then changes how you perceive and process what you learn. Out of undergrad, do a masters if thats what you want (master of management, etc.)

Also, don't be fooled by "don't need work experience" etc. The better thing to look at is the "class profile" that nearly every MBA program's website provides. The averages there are good guiding principles for what you need.
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Cantona wrote:
I would also say that an MBA directly out of undergrad makes little sense. The entire idea behind the MBA is to "finally" take real world experience and do the class room again. This experience then changes how you perceive and process what you learn. Out of undergrad, do a masters if thats what you want (master of management, etc.)

Also, don't be fooled by "don't need work experience" etc. The better thing to look at is the "class profile" that nearly every MBA program's website provides. The averages there are good guiding principles for what you need.



I second this. Some schools will take a small number of people out of undergrad, but I would also advise against that:
1) You won't learn as much
2) You will have a super-hard time recruiting
3) Your classmates won't have much to learn from you and you will feel low value/self-esteem

Get an entry level job and establish yourself. Figure out what you want to do with your life. You are still young - go out there and make some mistakes! :-)
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Re: Need help in deciding the right business school [#permalink] New post 10 Feb 2014, 00:02
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Cantona wrote:
I would also say that an MBA directly out of undergrad makes little sense. The entire idea behind the MBA is to "finally" take real world experience and do the class room again. This experience then changes how you perceive and process what you learn. Out of undergrad, do a masters if thats what you want (master of management, etc.)

Also, don't be fooled by "don't need work experience" etc. The better thing to look at is the "class profile" that nearly every MBA program's website provides. The averages there are good guiding principles for what you need.



I second this. Some schools will take a small number of people out of undergrad, but I would also advise against that:
1) You won't learn as much
2) You will have a super-hard time recruiting
3) Your classmates won't have much to learn from you and you will feel low value/self-esteem

Get an entry level job and establish yourself. Figure out what you want to do with your life. You are still young - go out there and make some mistakes! :-)


Guys, thanks, really appreciate the reply.

I agree on everything you said. So now have postponed mba plans.

Was thinking of doing a MSc Management from NUS (Plus CEMS MIM) and then applying for a job (2 years) and then trying to enroll for MBA. Will i get a decent job experience after MSc+CEMS MIM from Singapore? Will i be able to do a MBA from UK business schools afterwards or should i continue from NUS itself?
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MiM with CEMS is great. If you can get into that you'll have a good start to your career.

I feel old saying this, but don't worry about too many steps out. Who knows, you may land your dream job out of school and work for 5-10 years and start your own company?

Do whatever maximizes your chances now (MiM + CEMS is great) and go from there. As long as you are working and learning, you'll be on the right track (whether for applying to an MBA or career progression).

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Re: Need help in deciding the right business school [#permalink] New post 14 Feb 2014, 06:08
Cantona wrote:
MiM with CEMS is great. If you can get into that you'll have a good start to your career.

I feel old saying this, but don't worry about too many steps out. Who knows, you may land your dream job out of school and work for 5-10 years and start your own company?

Do whatever maximizes your chances now (MiM + CEMS is great) and go from there. As long as you are working and learning, you'll be on the right track (whether for applying to an MBA or career progression).

First things first.. take the GMAT!

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Thanks for inspiring words, mate.

I am inclined towards MSc Management+CEMS MIM (24months full time and summer internship) course from LSE. They say this course is alternate to an MBA. What do you think about it? Will i get a good job/work experience after this dual degree course?
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Re: Need help in deciding the right business school [#permalink] New post 14 Feb 2014, 10:21
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Cantona wrote:
MiM with CEMS is great. If you can get into that you'll have a good start to your career.

I feel old saying this, but don't worry about too many steps out. Who knows, you may land your dream job out of school and work for 5-10 years and start your own company?

Do whatever maximizes your chances now (MiM + CEMS is great) and go from there. As long as you are working and learning, you'll be on the right track (whether for applying to an MBA or career progression).

First things first.. take the GMAT!

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Thanks for inspiring words, mate.

I am inclined towards MSc Management+CEMS MIM (24months full time and summer internship) course from LSE. They say this course is alternate to an MBA. What do you think about it? Will i get a good job/work experience after this dual degree course?


I wouldn't say it is an alternative to an MBA. You have to look at the landscape that you're dealing with. Europe does the typical 3 year bachelor + 1 year master, whereas in the US, people tend to just do a 4 year bachelor (and master is quite rare).

A master is more common in Europe (versus the MBA). A two year master is a long commitment, so those that get into elte MiM programs tend to not do an MBA after 3-4 years. These students in Europe already have a top school on their resume and did graduate level course work for 2 years.

The difference is, as always, that the MBA is not only about the coursework. It is all about having worked for 3-4 years, and then getting a chance to go back and learn what you want with more focus. The MBA is still a very different experience, but if you have a 2 year MiM from a top program (HEC, LSE), then it may not make sense investment wise / time wise.

Final word of caution - these CEMS programs are not easy to get into. So in that sense, it is quite MBA-like :)
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Re: Need help in deciding the right business school [#permalink] New post 14 Feb 2014, 13:09
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Sp1n wrote:
Cantona wrote:
MiM with CEMS is great. If you can get into that you'll have a good start to your career.

I feel old saying this, but don't worry about too many steps out. Who knows, you may land your dream job out of school and work for 5-10 years and start your own company?

Do whatever maximizes your chances now (MiM + CEMS is great) and go from there. As long as you are working and learning, you'll be on the right track (whether for applying to an MBA or career progression).

First things first.. take the GMAT!

Best,
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Thanks for inspiring words, mate.

I am inclined towards MSc Management+CEMS MIM (24months full time and summer internship) course from LSE. They say this course is alternate to an MBA. What do you think about it? Will i get a good job/work experience after this dual degree course?


I wouldn't say it is an alternative to an MBA. You have to look at the landscape that you're dealing with. Europe does the typical 3 year bachelor + 1 year master, whereas in the US, people tend to just do a 4 year bachelor (and master is quite rare).

A master is more common in Europe (versus the MBA). A two year master is a long commitment, so those that get into elte MiM programs tend to not do an MBA after 3-4 years. These students in Europe already have a top school on their resume and did graduate level course work for 2 years.

The difference is, as always, that the MBA is not only about the coursework. It is all about having worked for 3-4 years, and then getting a chance to go back and learn what you want with more focus. The MBA is still a very different experience, but if you have a 2 year MiM from a top program (HEC, LSE), then it may not make sense investment wise / time wise.

Final word of caution - these CEMS programs are not easy to get into. So in that sense, it is quite MBA-like :)


Well, I will give it my best shot. Its either this programme at LSE or just MSc Management without Internship at Oxford Brookes.

But who knows I might give MBA a shot too after 3-4 years of work experience.

Also whats the job opportunities in UK/Neighboring countries and US like after doing MSc+CEMS MIM from LSE?
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Re: Need help in deciding the right business school [#permalink] New post 14 Mar 2014, 00:04
Bump.

Can anyone give me an idea of work opportunities/placements after MSc Finance from Cass Business School, London in Europe countries, states or even AU?

Please any help would be much appreciated.
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