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Newspaper editorial: In an attempt to reduce the crime rate, [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2005, 21:52
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In an attempt to reduce the crime rate, the governor is getting tough on criminals and making prison conditions harsher. Part of this effort has been to deny inmates the access they formerly had to college-level courses. However, this action is clearly counter to the governor’s ultimate goal, since after being released form prison, inmates who had taken such courses committed far fewer crimes overall than other inmates.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

A. Not being able to take college-level courses while in prison is unlikely to deter anyone from a crime that he or she might otherwise have committed.
B. Former inmates are no more likely to commit crimes than are members of the general population.
C. The group of inmates who chose to take college-level courses were not already less likely than other inmates to commit crimes after being released.
D. Taking high school level courses in prison has less effect on an inmate’s subsequent behavior than taking college-level courses does.
E. The governor’s ultimate goal actually is to gain popularity by convincing people that something effective is being done about crime.

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 [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2005, 23:08
(C) If those who choose to take courses are actually those who wouldn't commit crime anyway, then the fact that they do not commit many crimes after they get out is not because of the fact that they have taken the courses.
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 [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2005, 23:16
Absoultely right HongHu.

BTW, apart from (A) and (C) all others are out of scope.

(C) is the best choice.
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2005, 02:58
Hong Hu,

Quick question.This is what I see from the question posed:
-->Goal:Identify the Assumption
-->Evidence:The governor is getting tough on criminals and making prison conditions harsher by denying inmates the access they formerly had to college-level courses.
-->Conclusion:This action is clearly counter to the governor’s ultimate goal, since after being released form prison, inmates who had taken such courses committed far fewer crimes overall than other inmates.
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In this case,how does the (c) becomes the assumption.Does it acts as a link for Governor's decision to deny inmates from college-level courses?Or does it acts as a link that critiques governor's decision of denying college-level courses?

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(C) If those who choose to take courses are actually those who wouldn't commit crime anyway, then the fact that they do not commit many crimes after they get out is not because of the fact that they have taken the courses.

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 [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2005, 07:35
it is A)

C) => weakens the conclusion
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2005, 08:42
Chain of thought:

Governor wants to reduce crime.
Governor got rid of courses in prison.
Since people who took courses in prison committed less crime when they come out compare to people who didn't take courses in prison, no courses offered would mean more crime, thus leads to the opposite of what the governor wants.

Assumption is it is the courses that make them commit less crime. In other words, these people were NOT already less likely than other inmates to commit crimes after being released, only after the courses, they became less likely to commit crimes. This is why the courses are so important.

Without the assumption, we can't establish the importancy of the courses, and thus lead to the conclusion that getting rid of courses will mean more crime.
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2005, 09:13
One more C.. honghu is right on track!!!
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Re: CR - Crime and Punishment [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2005, 09:58
C.

Nice one, between A and C, though A is a strong assumption I think C is more appropriate to his reasoning.

Conclusion: "this action is clearly counter to the governor’s ultimate goal".
Argument: "since after being released form prison, inmates who had taken such courses committed far fewer crimes overall than other inmates."

Argument depends on C but not A.
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Re: CR - Crime and Punishment [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2005, 10:21
OA please ?
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2005, 10:25
C...same expl. as many other people.
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2005, 12:34
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Ahhhh !.. it is indeed "C"....was getting confused with "was not already less likely", already is the key word here......"A" is more like a conclusion that an assumption.
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2005, 16:31
The unofficial answer provided was A (some testtaker had solved it). There was no OA
My answer was C. Since most people agree, I think the answer is probably C.
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2005, 23:27
its just too close b/w A) and C)

C) is more detailed, like the comparision to the inmates and that is states "the group of..." instead of anyone, but i`am still double-minded :-D
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 [#permalink] New post 02 Feb 2005, 00:12
Hmmm A does have some merits. A says not taking courses will not deter your crime, thus governor's action of taking out the courses will not lead to a reduction of the crime rate. The only thing is this has nothing to do with the last part of the argument ...
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 [#permalink] New post 02 Feb 2005, 00:46
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 [#permalink] New post 02 Feb 2005, 07:49
I'd like to get more discussions on A vs C on this one, if anybody has any more thoughts.
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 [#permalink] New post 02 Feb 2005, 08:08
I again want to reiterate that there is no OA for this question.
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http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=10406 points to a thread where somebody looked up the unofficial key that a test taker had come up with and claimed it as a OA.

We need a clear explanation for choosing between A and C.
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 [#permalink] New post 03 Feb 2005, 19:51
Are we looking for an assumption that supports or goes against the government's plan?
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Feb 2005, 11:23
I understood that :
[b]“However, this action is clearly counter to the governor’s ultimate goalâ€
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