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Re: Number properties question from QR 2nd edition PS 164 [#permalink] New post 06 Mar 2011, 16:54
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Bunuel,

I know in this case we don't have to make any assumption, because the question clearly states these are two positive integers.


i was referring more to scenarios like negative number division

-25 /7

-25 = 7(-3)+(-4)

Here remainder is -4 which is negative.

so lets say if question is like x,y are integers x/y . we cannot generalize and say remainder >=0 ,unless we assume that we are only talking about positive integers.


Two things:

1. Every GMAT divisibility question will tell you in advance that any unknowns represent positive integers.
2. A remainder is a non-negative integer by definition (at least on the GMAT).


Anyway you are still wrong when calculating -25/7, it should be: -25=(-4)*7+3, so remainder=3>0.

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Re: Number properties question from QR 2nd edition PS 164 [#permalink] New post 09 Jan 2013, 04:02
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When 10 is divided by the positive integer n, the remainder is n-4. Which of the following could be the value of n?

A. 3
B. 4
C. 7
D. 8
E. 12

My strategy was to create lists below:
n = 3, 4, 7, 8, 12
n-4 = -1(becomes 9), 0, 3, 4, 8
n/10 = R? = 3, 4, 7, 8, 4

There is no match between n-4 and n/10's R.

The solution uses 14 = ..., but I don't understand how they are using 14. Should the question have said a multiple of one of these numbers?


Algebraic approach:

THEORY:
Positive integer a divided by positive integer d yields a reminder of r can always be expressed as a=qd+r, where q is called a quotient and r is called a remainder, note here that 0\leq{r}<d (remainder is non-negative integer and always less than divisor).

Original question says that when 10 is divided by the positive integer n, the remainder is n-4, so 10=nq+(n-4) and also n-4\geq{0} or n\geq{4} (remainder must be non-negative).

10=nq+n-4 --> 14=n(q+1) --> as 14=1*14=2*7 and \geq{4} then --> n can be 7 or 14.

Answer: C.

Hope it's clear.



So in this step are we substituting q=0,1 etc or is it something else?
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Re: Number properties question from QR 2nd edition PS 164 [#permalink] New post 09 Jan 2013, 04:24
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Bunuel wrote:
jpr200012 wrote:
When 10 is divided by the positive integer n, the remainder is n-4. Which of the following could be the value of n?

A. 3
B. 4
C. 7
D. 8
E. 12

My strategy was to create lists below:
n = 3, 4, 7, 8, 12
n-4 = -1(becomes 9), 0, 3, 4, 8
n/10 = R? = 3, 4, 7, 8, 4

There is no match between n-4 and n/10's R.

The solution uses 14 = ..., but I don't understand how they are using 14. Should the question have said a multiple of one of these numbers?


Algebraic approach:

THEORY:
Positive integer a divided by positive integer d yields a reminder of r can always be expressed as a=qd+r, where q is called a quotient and r is called a remainder, note here that 0\leq{r}<d (remainder is non-negative integer and always less than divisor).

Original question says that when 10 is divided by the positive integer n, the remainder is n-4, so 10=nq+(n-4) and also n-4\geq{0} or n\geq{4} (remainder must be non-negative).

10=nq+n-4 --> 14=n(q+1) --> as 14=1*14=2*7 and \geq{4} then --> n can be 7 or 14.

Answer: C.

Hope it's clear.



So in this step are we substituting q=0,1 etc or is it something else?


Not entirely so.

From 10=nq+n-4:

Re-arrange: 14=nq+n;
Factor out n: 14=n(q+1).

So we have that the product of two positive integers (n and q+1) equals 14. 14 can be written as the product of two positive integers only in 2 way: 14=1*14 and 14=2*7. Now, since n\geq{4} then n can be 7 or 14.

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Re: When 10 is divided by the positive integer n, the remainder [#permalink] New post 10 Jan 2013, 14:55
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When 10 is divided by the positive integer n, the remainder is n - 4. Which of the following could be the value for n?
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Re: When 10 is divided by the positive integer n, the remainder [#permalink] New post 21 Feb 2013, 04:41
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When 10 is divided by the positive integer n, the remainder is n - 4. Which of the following could be the value for n?


I get the equation 14 = n (q +1) but I do not know what to do then.
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Re: When 10 is divided by the positive integer n, the remainder [#permalink] New post 27 Feb 2013, 03:19
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