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Of all the students in a certain dormitory, 1/2 are first-year students and the rest are second-year students. If 4/5 of the first-year students have not declared a major and if the fraction of second-year students who have declared a major is 3 times the fraction of first-year students who have declared a major, what fraction of all the students in the dormitory are second-year students who have not declared a major?

A. 1/15
B. 1/5
C. 4/15
D. 1/3
E. 2/5
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I think you dropped a fraction when you typed/copied this in. Working backward from the spoiler answer, I'm thinking the second sentence should read as follows? Please confirm.

"If 4/5 of the first-year students have not declared a major ..."
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Of all the students in a certain dormitory, 1/2 are first-year students and the rest are second-year students. If 4/5 of the first-year students have not declared a major and if the fraction of second-year students who have declared a major is 3 times the fraction of first-year students who have declared a major, what fraction of all the students in the dormitory are second-year students who have not declared a major?

A. 1/15
B. 1/5
C. 4/15
D. 1/3
E. 2/5

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B

First-year=Second-year=x --> all students $$2x$$;

$$\frac{4}{5}x$$ of the first-year students have not declared a major --> $$\frac{1}{5}x$$ declared;

Second-year students who have declared a major is 3 times the fraction of first-year students who have declared a major =$$\frac{3}{5}x$$ --> who have not $$\frac{2}{5}x$$;

Hence: $$\frac{\frac{2}{5}x}{2x}=\frac{1}{5}$$

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27 Dec 2009, 21:10
tot students=x

1st year student=x/2----> non majaor=4/5(x/2)-----> maj=1/5(x/2)

2nd year student=x/2---->maj=3(1/5(x/2))=3/10(x)--->non major=x/2-3/10(x)=1/5(x)

hence 1/5
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I think the answer choices you have provided because the answer cannot be greater than one.

Here is an easy way to think about this is by picking "smart" numbers.
Let's pick 50 for the first half of students who are 1st years and 50 for the other half who are 2nd year.
We know that 4/5 of the 1st years have not declared a major so that gives us 50*4/5=40, so 10 have declared a major.
We also know that the number of 2nd year that have not declared a major = 3 times the # of 1st year who have declared a major. This gives us 3*10=30

The question asks for fraction of 2nd years who have not declared a major over the total students.
30 have declared a major out of the 2nd year so 20 have not. Since we have 100 students (50+50), the answer is 20/100 or 1/5.

You can run a search on the web and you will find this question without the correct answer choices.

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You can also do this problem sans algebra (in your head):

100 Students Total:

1st yr = 50 students
4/5x50 = 40 = No Major
Therefore: 10 = Major

2nd yr = 50 students
10x3 = 30 = Major
Therefore: 20 = No Major
20/100 = 1/5 = B
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In this kind of problem table structure is the weapon for me...

Let 2X would be total student which revealed that 1 yrs student is X and 2nd Yr is X as well.

No form the table

MAJOR NO MAJOR Total Student
1st yr Student x/5 4x/5 x
2nd yr Student 3x/5 2x/5 x
Total Student 4x/5 6x/5 2x

From the table 2nd yr student with major is 2x/5 so the answer would be =2x/5/2x =>1/5 Ans

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First ............................................. Second ........................................ Total

x ........................................................ x ................................................ 2x

Major........... NotMajor ................... Major ............ NotMajor ..........

$$\frac{4x}{5}$$ ................ $$\frac{x}{5}$$ ........................ $$\frac{3x}{5}$$ ................... $$\frac{2x}{5}$$ ...................... 2x

Fraction $$= \frac{\frac{2x}{5}}{2x} = \frac{1}{5}$$

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Attached is a visual that should help.

FY = First Year
SY = Second Year
NDM = Not Decided on Major
YDM = Yes Decided on Major
SYY = Senior Year Yes
SYN = Senior Year No

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Of all the students in a certain dormitory, 1/2 are first-year students and the rest are second-year students. If 4/5 of the first-year students have not declared a major and if the fraction of second-year students who have declared a major is 3 times the fraction of first-year students who have declared a major, what fraction of all the students in the dormitory are second-year students who have not declared a major?

A. 151
B. 51
C. 154
D. 31
E. 52

Say there are in all 100 students. Use a matrix:
50 are first year and 50 are second year students.

........................Major Dec................Major not dec..............Total
First Year............................................................................50
Second Yr...........................................................................50
Total

4/5 * 50 = 40 not declared major first year students.

........................Major Dec................Major not dec..............Total
First Year................10..................................40....................50
Second Yr...........................................................................50
Total

second-year students who have declared a major is 3 times the fraction of first-year students who have declared a major

........................Major Dec................Major not dec..............Total
First Year................10..................................40.....................50
Second Yr...............30..................................20......................50
Total

So second year students who've not declared a major is 20/100 = 1/5

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