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Re: Coronary Bypass Surgery - GMAT Prep [#permalink] New post 14 Oct 2010, 23:32
I will go with option D bcos D clearly tells that Patients are informed about the pros & cons of the surgery and doctors are not simply doing it for money. This clearly weakens the argument

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Re: Coronary Bypass Surgery - GMAT Prep [#permalink] New post 09 Dec 2010, 12:55
E - does convey that pple who underwent surgery were indistinguishable from pple who did not undergo surgery. After surgery there seemed so healthy they were matching the pple who did not need surgery.
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Re: Coronary Bypass Surgery - GMAT Prep [#permalink] New post 09 Dec 2010, 13:09
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Re: Coronary Bypass Surgery - GMAT Prep [#permalink] New post 10 Dec 2010, 11:48
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Re: Coronary Bypass Surgery - GMAT Prep [#permalink] New post 25 Jul 2011, 01:12
I have read all the posts and mostly people eliminate D since it repeats whats given in the passage....but i have seen some cases where the stuff that is repeated is infact the correct answer...i dont have an example to cite but has someone seen a case like mine before??? Do you D if there was no option E at all??

I am still not convinced with the D elimination....is there any better explanation rather than D repeats whats stated ...??? :cry:
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Re: Coronary Bypass Surgery - GMAT Prep [#permalink] New post 25 Jul 2011, 02:15
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I have read all the posts and mostly people eliminate D since it repeats whats given in the passage....but i have seen some cases where the stuff that is repeated is infact the correct answer...i dont have an example to cite but has someone seen a case like mine before??? Do you D if there was no option E at all??

I am still not convinced with the D elimination....is there any better explanation rather than D repeats whats stated ...??? :cry:


E is the right answer because the doctor patients were medically indistinguishable and the doctor performed operation for beneficial outcomes. Incase the patients were medically distinguishable and the doctor would had still performed operation then it would had been for money.

Also in D, the doctor told the patients about risks and the argument even states that the doctor perfomed those operation for their bebefit even though with its risk and expenses.
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Re: Coronary Bypass Surgery - GMAT Prep [#permalink] New post 25 Jul 2011, 06:52
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Re: Coronary Bypass Surgery - GMAT Prep [#permalink] New post 26 Jul 2011, 08:33
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Re: Coronary Bypass Surgery - GMAT Prep [#permalink] New post 26 Jul 2011, 10:22
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Re: Coronary Bypass Surgery - GMAT Prep [#permalink] New post 23 Aug 2011, 23:50
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This is a difficult question, but the correct answer choice is clearly E.

Consider the following analogy, perhaps not the best one but I hope it will be good enough to make the point.

A dealer sells second-hand cars. Last year 75% of the cars didn't present any problems after the sale, whereas the other 25% presented several problems a few months after the sale. Clearly in that 25% percent of the cars sold, the dealer was more interested in making profit that in the security of the people who bought the cars.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously undermines the argument?

-- the dealer didn't know whether the cars had any problems prior to the sale.
-- the dealer equally informed all the customers about the risks of buying a second-hand car.

In this example, I know is not exactly the same, the correct answer choice is clearly the first one. The dealer here could know that the cars were in bad condition, and still convinced the people to buy the cars.

What makes option D incorrect?

If you read closely the stimulus is says

Thus it appears that for one in four such patients, the doctors who advised them to undergo this surgery, with its attendant risks and expense.

IMO the stimulus already acknowledges for the information given, so the doctors could haven given the same information but recommended patients undergo to the coronary bypass surgery even if the doctors knew that the patients would not benefit.


This analogy doesn't hold because a car dealership is only selling a car, while a doctor actually operates on a body. If you compare surgeons to mechanics, E doesn't hold as well. Say 100 cars come into a huge shop, with the SAME PROBLEM (medically indistinguishable). 75 of those get fixed by legit mechanics, while 25 go to the incompetent ones that only care about making money. Those 25 do not "benefit from the surgery". I understand why D is wrong, but I don't get how E could be right.
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Re: Coronary Bypass Surgery - GMAT Prep [#permalink] New post 09 Dec 2011, 07:20
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thanks mike..But my ques here to all the experience holders is .... When we slice through the options and and if we get this feeling that this one is perfect , we tend to take the other options lightly.. And in the quest of the right ans in a short time .. we miss the importance of anther option which also may b eimportant ......It happens wid me....The moment i perceive that , for ex, option B is correctly sounds good, though i do read the other options but i just skim thrgh it...........


Same happened with this ques also after coming to D when i felt i got the right ans i missed the importance of E...


Does it happen with anyone else......Any advice?????????


This happens to me to. That's why is important to go through all the answer choices. If you have two contenders, then try to look for that piece of information that makes one better. In difficult questions, like this one, that is difficult.
Under exam conditions perhaps I would have chosen D because sounds right at first.



Lovely analysis ! :)
Exactly, it is a psychological problem for test-takers, I reckon!
I'm making a conscious effort to get rid of that :) !

But, what a point to make it here, I would've thought about this a lot of times, but it takes a great presence to state it here :) !
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And abt the answer, I am quite confident abt E.
D is not required, I think is a trap!
Already, it is mentioned in the stem that there is this attender's risk & expense, so IMHO, what if the patient is informed! Philosophically too :) , whou could say whatt??
All of them get informed in a similar way - OOS!
Whereas, E means medically indistinguishable. I'd appreciate the use of medically, here, which clarifies that the doctor remains incomprehensible even after the treatment - Perfect!
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Re: Of patients over 65 years old who survived coronary bypass [#permalink] New post 10 Dec 2011, 01:22
the doctor cannot disincguish the patients, so we cannot conclude that these doctors take advantages of patient to practice procedure.
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Re: Of patients over 65 years old who survived coronary bypass [#permalink] New post 13 Dec 2011, 02:01
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Re: Of patients over 65 years old who survived coronary bypass [#permalink] New post 26 Dec 2011, 11:18
Why OA is E
it should be D IMO
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Re: Of patients over 65 years old who survived coronary bypass [#permalink] New post 23 Jul 2013, 02:07
What's the OA? D or E I picked D... can someone explain the options.
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