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Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the financial markets

* so gradual as to be indistinguishable
* so gradual so that they can be indistinguishable
* so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
* gradual enough not to be distinguishable
* gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them
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Last edited by Zarrolou on 21 Jul 2013, 05:24, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: SC - GMATPrep [#permalink] New post 16 Jan 2009, 09:30
No problm with A.

C - closer but looks wordy compared to A
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Re: SC - GMATPrep [#permalink] New post 16 Jan 2009, 09:44
selvae wrote:
No problm with A.

C - closer but looks wordy compared to A


agree with A. C is also incorrect because of "they"
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Re: SC - GMATPrep [#permalink] New post 16 Jan 2009, 11:25
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Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the financial markets

* so gradual as to be indistinguishable
* so gradual so that they can be indistinguishable
* so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
* gradual enough not to be distinguishable
* gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them


Agree with A, which is idiomatic "so x as to be y" and meaningful.

No dispute for B, D and E.

C looks tempting but changes the meaning. "economic shifts" are neither able nor unable to be distinguished. They do not do that job rather they are indistinguishable for others i.e. people.
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Re: SC - GMATPrep [#permalink] New post 16 Jan 2009, 11:29
Can someone explain the difference between the foll two

so ...as to
so ...that

when to/not to use the above. it's confusing.
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Re: SC - GMATPrep [#permalink] New post 17 Jan 2009, 14:28
TIger....Can you explain it more? Thx
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Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the financial markets

* so gradual as to be indistinguishable
* so gradual so that they can be indistinguishable
* so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
* gradual enough not to be distinguishable
* gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them


Agree with A, which is idiomatic "so x as to be y" and meaningful.

No dispute for B, D and E.

C looks tempting but changes the meaning. "economic shifts" are neither able nor unable to be distinguished. They do not do that job rather they are indistinguishable for others i.e. people.
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Re: SC - GMATPrep [#permalink] New post 21 Jan 2009, 15:28
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Can someone explain the difference between the foll two

so ...as to
so ...that

when to/not to use the above. it's confusing.

Here is how I understand it:

so X as to Y
X is usually an adjective, Y is an adverb or adverbial phrase - NOT clause!

so ... that...
What comes after "that" has to be a clause.

If anyone has got live examples, I'd be happy to discuss to my ability.
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Re: SC - GMATPrep [#permalink] New post 21 Jan 2009, 15:31
Here is an example from 1000 SC (26)
26. A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office that even Theodore C. Sorensen, the White House counsel, did not know it existed.
(A) A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office that
(B) So secret was a recording system installation and operation in the Kennedy Oval Office
(C) It was so secret that a recording system was installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office
(D) A recording system that was so secretly installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office
(E) Installed and operated so secretly in the Kennedy Oval Office was a recording system that

OA: A
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Re: SC - GMATPrep [#permalink] New post 21 Jan 2009, 17:53
so....as to ...
is this correct idiom? Can't find any examples on the internet.
I chose E. just use so that
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study wrote:
Can someone explain the difference between the foll two

so ...as to
so ...that

when to/not to use the above. it's confusing.

Here is how I understand it:

so X as to Y
X is usually an adjective, Y is an adverb or adverbial phrase - NOT clause!

so ... that...
What comes after "that" has to be a clause.

If anyone has got live examples, I'd be happy to discuss to my ability.

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Re: SC - GMATPrep [#permalink] New post 21 Jan 2009, 19:18
botirvoy wrote:
study wrote:
Can someone explain the difference between the foll two

so ...as to
so ...that

when to/not to use the above. it's confusing.

Here is how I understand it:

so X as to Y
X is usually an adjective, Y is an adverb or adverbial phrase - NOT clause!

so ... that...
What comes after "that" has to be a clause.

If anyone has got live examples, I'd be happy to discuss to my ability.


Botirvoy,
Which is the adverbial phrase in this sentence? I do not see any adverb.
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Re: SC - GMATPrep [#permalink] New post 21 Jan 2009, 21:34
I will go for D.

I have read in OG11 that so X as to Y is not a correct idiom.
Also, so X that Y in option C changes the meaning.
E is wordy.
D seems to be the best.
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Re: SC - GMATPrep [#permalink] New post 23 Jan 2009, 03:18
My choice is also D.
@Study, can u post the OA pls?
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Re: SC - GMATPrep [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2009, 15:43
This is a GMAT prep problem and OA is A.

I don't understand what's wrong with D.
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Re: SC - GMATPrep [#permalink] New post 27 Aug 2009, 00:50
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This is a GMAT prep problem and OA is A.

I don't understand what's wrong with D.


IMO
I think enough not to is not correct; the question should read "Often major economic shifts are not gradual enough to be ..."
There is a different in meaning between so ...as and enough to


X enough to Y is used when the emphasis is on Y. "So X as to Y" is used when the emphasis is on X

1. "I am tall enough to touch the ceiling" implies that the focus is on the fact of being able to touch the ceiling.
2." I am so tall as to be able to touch the ceiling" implies that the focus is on the fact of being tall

more examples

1. The lion was so tame that the lionkeeper could enter its cage
2. The lion was tame enough for the lioonkeeper to enter its cage
3. It was such a clear introductory lecture that we decided to take the course
4. It was a clear enough introductory lecture for us to decide to take the course
5. sentence 1 suggests that the lion was very time, whereas 2 does not
6. sentence 3 suggests that the lecture was very clear, while 4 does not


option C is wrong because after able or unable the verb to be is considered wordy; you use the verb to be twice

be able to be ...
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E is clear and concise


IMO the correct idioms with enough are
enough to and enough for
so E cannot be the correct answer choice
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Re: SC - GMATPrep [#permalink] New post 28 Aug 2009, 03:40
A and D are very tempting, but we should choose A since the accent here is on "gradually" and so the answer is A.
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Re: SC - GMATPrep [#permalink] New post 19 Jul 2010, 10:27
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OA is A.

1. so gradual as to be indistinguishable
Option 1 correctly follows the idiom "SO X AS TO Y".
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Re: Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be [#permalink] New post 21 Jul 2013, 02:15
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Re: Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be [#permalink] New post 21 Jul 2013, 05:45
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Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the financial markets

3 options have incorrect idioms/constructs:

* so gradual so that they can be indistinguishable
* gradual enough not to be distinguishable
* gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them

I think that the battle goes on between A and C.
* so gradual as to be indistinguishable
* so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished

I)Both have correct idioms.
II)Both are grammatically correct, and the meaning is the same.

So which should we pick? We have "indistinguishable" VS "they are unable to be distinguished". If you cannot eliminate an answer because of meaning/grammatical/structural errors, choose the one the conveys the meaning more efficiently. The first option is clearly more concise.
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