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By 1940, the pilot Jacqueline Cochran held seventeen official national and international speed records, and she earned them at a time when aviation was still so new for many of the planes she flew to be of dangerously experimental design.

A and she earned them at a time when avation was still so new for many of the planes she flew to be
B earning them at a time that aviation was still so new for many of the planes she flew were
C earning these at a time where aviation was still so new that many of the planes she flew were
D earned at a time in which aviation was still so new such that many of the planes she flew were
E earned at a time when aviation was still so new that many of the planes she flew were
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Re: OG 13 # 35 [#permalink] New post 18 Mar 2014, 11:33
Hi there - Can you please validate my analysis and help with the below questions

Sentence structure analysis -

Clause 1: By 1940, the pilot Jacqueline Cochran held seventeen official national and international speed records
, and

Clause 2: she earned them at a time when

Clause 3: aviation was still so new for many of the planes she flew to be of dangerously experimental design.

Error -

(1) Idiom Error - so ..for is wrong. It needs to be so that. Also the sentence structure is not proper because of missing "that". It is required to introduce the dependent clause "she flew..."
(2) Verb Tense Error - planes .. to be is not right, it needs past tense here. Simple past tense is required as it talks about a fact (design) in past. So "were" is
required.

POE

(a) and she earned them at a time when avation was still so new for many of the planes she flew to be - WRONG because of reasons stated above

(b) earning them at a time that aviation was still so new for many of the planes she flew were - WRONG
(1) Idiom error same as (a)

Question -
(1) I am not clear on the position on "earning" and explanation given in OG? To me it seems that comma + verb-ing is presenting additional information about the main clause. Please provide your insight.
(2) Can "that" refer to time?

(c) earning these at a time where aviation was still so new that many of the planes she flew were - WRONG
(1) "where" referring to time is wrong. When required instead

(d) earned at a time in which aviation was still so new such that many of the planes she flew were - WRONG
(1) Idiom error - so ..such that
Question - Is "in which" wrong here? please explain the usage if "in which". Some forums say it is interchangeable with when

(e) earned at a time when aviation was still so new that many of the planes she flew were - RIGHT
(1) earned refers to closest preceding noun "records" - Right
(2) when refers to time
(3) correct verb tense were
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Re: Pilot Jacqueline Cochran held seventeen national records [#permalink] New post 21 Mar 2014, 02:44
@crackball :u have not copied the question correctly
option B is your post is distorted !!
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Re: Pilot Jacqueline Cochran held seventeen national records [#permalink] New post 03 Apr 2014, 05:59
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Hi crackball,

Let's begin by the correct question here:

By 1940, the pilot Jacqueline Cochran held seventeen official national and international speed records, and she earned them at a time when aviation was still so new for many of the planes she flew to be of dangerously experimental design.

A) and she earned them at a time when aviation was still so new for many of the planes she flew to be
B) earning them at a time that aviation was still so new for many of the planes she flew to be
C) earning these at a time where aviation was still so new that many of the planes she flew were
D) earned at a time in which aviation was still so new such that many of the planes she flew were
E) earned at a time when aviation was still so new that many of the planes she flew were

Now let's talk about your analysis.

Option A - Yes, you are correct. When we say that something was so X, we must then say "that Y". So "that Y" part is missing from this sentence. However, it is not necessary to have "that" before the clause "she flew". Even without "that", the meaning is absolutely clearly that "she flew" is about the planes that she flew. Also "she flew" is a Dependent Clause here.

Option B - This one has the same idiom error as in Choice A. Also use of "that" to modify "time" is absolutely incorrect. Only "when" can modify "time". Use of comma + verb-ing "earning" is correct in the context as it says that she held the records "by earning them...".

Option C - Correct Analysis.

Option D - You are right about the incorrect idiom use in this sentence. I would say for time, "when" is the relative pronoun to be used.

Option E - Correct analysis.

Hope this helps. :-)
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Re: Pilot Jacqueline Cochran held seventeen national records [#permalink] New post 11 Apr 2014, 08:11
egmat wrote:
Hi crackball,

Let's begin by the correct question here:

By 1940, the pilot Jacqueline Cochran held seventeen official national and international speed records, and she earned them at a time when aviation was still so new for many of the planes she flew to be of dangerously experimental design.


B) earning them at a time that aviation was still so new for many of the planes she flew to be
C) earning these at a time where aviation was still so new that many of the planes she flew were



Option B - This one has the same idiom error as in Choice A. Also use of "that" to modify "time" is absolutely incorrect. Only "when" can modify "time". Use of comma + verb-ing "earning" is correct in the context as it says that she held the records "by earning them...".



Hi Shraddha,

I am not completely convinced with the usage of Verb + ing ("earning them..." ) in this sentence.
As the sentence doesn't want to convey that because JC flew dangerous planes she held those records.

Please let me know if I am missing out something.
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Re: Pilot Jacqueline Cochran held seventeen national records [#permalink] New post 15 Apr 2014, 20:45
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egmat wrote:
Hi crackball,

Let's begin by the correct question here:

By 1940, the pilot Jacqueline Cochran held seventeen official national and international speed records, and she earned them at a time when aviation was still so new for many of the planes she flew to be of dangerously experimental design.


B) earning them at a time that aviation was still so new for many of the planes she flew to be
C) earning these at a time where aviation was still so new that many of the planes she flew were



Option B - This one has the same idiom error as in Choice A. Also use of "that" to modify "time" is absolutely incorrect. Only "when" can modify "time". Use of comma + verb-ing "earning" is correct in the context as it says that she held the records "by earning them...".



Hi Shraddha,

I am not completely convinced with the usage of Verb + ing ("earning them..." ) in this sentence.
As the sentence doesn't want to convey that because JC flew dangerous planes she held those records.

Please let me know if I am missing out something.


Dear Student,

Thank you for your post. :)

This indeed is a tricky spot. Although I do agree with you that the meaning added by the verb –ing modifier in the choice under discussion is not really the one conveyed by ‘by” or “because”, I do think that the use of the modifier is correct in the context. Here the modifier “earning” expands on the preceding clause by giving us additional information on the timing of the event, i.e. when Jacqueline held the records. In context, it kind of also establishes on how these records were exceptional.

Hope the above discussion helps! :)

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Re: OG 13 # 35 [#permalink] New post 16 Apr 2014, 06:00
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(b) earning them at a time that aviation was still so new for many of the planes she flew were - WRONG
(1) Idiom error same as (a)

Question -
(2) Can "that" refer to time?

I am also slightly confused. Following is a correct example from OG, where it looks like "that" is referring to "1900", although on closer look, it seems that it is perhaps not directly referring to 1900. However, the presence of "that" just after 1900 is confusing.

Although various eighteenth- and nineteenth-century American poets had professed an interest in Native American poetry and had pretended to imitate Native American forms in their own works, it was not until almost 1900 that scholars and critics seriously began studying traditional Native American poetry in native languages.
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