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559. One of Ronald Reagan’s first acts as President was to rescind President Carter’s directive that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries.
(A) that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries
(B) that any chemical be prohibited from sale to other countries that was banned on medical grounds in the United States
(C) prohibiting the sale to other countries of any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States
(D) prohibiting that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States is sold to other countries
(E) that any chemical banned in the United States on medical grounds is prohibited from being sold to other countries
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Re: SC1000 #550 Directive [#permalink]
24 Jul 2007, 23:38
This is one of the Brutal SC questions i believe...
I wanted to take a new look at this question because there was mass confusion over this question.
"directive" is a noun, not a verb. it is misleading because answer choices starts with "that" signifying a subjunctive mood.
directive verb + that + subject + base verb
anyone care to refute my explanation/answer?
bmwhype2 wrote: 559. One of Ronald Reagan’s first acts as President was to rescind President Carter’s directive that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries.
(A) that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries
(B) that any chemical be prohibited from sale to other countries that was banned on medical grounds in the United States
(C) prohibiting the sale (to other countries) (of any chemical banned on medical grounds) (in the United States)
(D) prohibiting that (any chemical banned on medical grounds) (in the United States) is sold to other countries
(E) that any chemical banned in the United States on medical grounds is prohibited from being sold to other countries
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Re: SC1000 #550 Directive [#permalink]
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bmwhype2 wrote: This is one of the Brutal SC questions i believe... I wanted to take a new look at this question because there was mass confusion over this question. "directive" is a noun, not a verb. it is misleading because answer choices starts with "that" signifying a subjunctive mood. directive verb + that + subject + base verb anyone care to refute my explanation/answer? bmwhype2 wrote: 559. One of Ronald Reagan’s first acts as President was to rescind President Carter’s directive that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries.
(A) that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries
(B) that any chemical be prohibited from sale to other countries that was banned on medical grounds in the United States
(C) prohibiting the sale (to other countries) (of any chemical banned on medical grounds) (in the United States)
(D) prohibiting that (any chemical banned on medical grounds) (in the United States) is sold to other countries
(E) that any chemical banned in the United States on medical grounds is prohibited from being sold to other countries 
sorry. made a mistake. (live and learn)
ABE are wrong for the reasons stated above.
D is wrong because the idiom is prohibit x from Y
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Re: SC1000 #550 Directive [#permalink]
01 May 2010, 08:35
Why all of you are with C, if the correct idiom is prohibit from??? Thanks.
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Re: SC1000 #550 Directive [#permalink]
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noboru wrote: Why all of you are with C, if the correct idiom is prohibit from???
Thanks. Nobody is going to clarify this?? Thanks.
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Re: SC1000 #550 Directive [#permalink]
31 Jul 2010, 11:35
IMO C.. The reason that I highlighted in the other post.. directive prohibiting is correct and not directive that prohibit
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Re: SC1000 #550 Directive [#permalink]
31 Jul 2010, 11:41
temp33 wrote: IMO C..
The reason that I highlighted in the other post..
directive prohibiting is correct and not directive that prohibit OK, but in that case it should be "Directive prohibiting X from Y", shouldnt it? thanks
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Every time u see a prohibiting doesn't necessarily mean it would be followed by "from" .. Don't base your reasoning like that..
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temp33 wrote: Every time u see a prohibiting doesn't necessarily mean it would be followed by "from" .. Don't base your reasoning like that.. Anybody else can corroborate that? I have always been treating prohibit as an idiom.
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Re: SC1000 #550 Directive [#permalink]
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Well at first sight i thought its a subjunctive one, cleverly disguised
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Re: SC1000 #550 Directive [#permalink]
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what's the oa? i like choice C better: - 'directive that ... be prohibited' is more awkward than 'directive prohibiting ...' - 'prohibited from sale': i'm pretty sure that's wrong. the correct use would be 'chemical companies were prohibited from selling chemicals...' you could also say that the sale of such chemicals is prohibited.
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Re: SC1000 #550 Directive [#permalink]
02 Aug 2010, 08:59
Hey noboru, I understand that the correct answer is C but I dont know how to explain it in grammatical language. The below explanation should help. Quote: * if you have
a directive/order/command + that + noun + verb then the verb must be in the COMMAND SUBJUNCTIVE.
so this would have to be
"...directive that any chemical banned in the United States on medical grounds be..."
* you don't use "X is prohibited from ..." unless X is a person.
the chemical is prohibited from being sold --> wrong
chemical companies are prohibited from selling the chemical --> correct
choice c is better for two reasons.
- 'directive that ... be prohibited' is more awkward than 'directive prohibiting ...', and may in fact be considered incorrect. (from what i've seen, the use of 'directive' is similar to that of 'law', and you can't say things like 'prohibition was a law that the sale of alcohol be prohibited'.)
- 'prohibited from sale': i'm pretty sure that's wrong. the correct use of the idiom in this case would be 'chemical companies were prohibited from selling chemicals...'
you could also say that the sale of such chemicals is prohibited.
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seekmba wrote: Hey noboru, I understand that the correct answer is C but I dont know how to explain it in grammatical language. The below explanation should help. Quote: * if you have
a directive/order/command + that + noun + verb then the verb must be in the COMMAND SUBJUNCTIVE.
so this would have to be
"...directive that any chemical banned in the United States on medical grounds be..."
* you don't use "X is prohibited from ..." unless X is a person.
the chemical is prohibited from being sold --> wrong
chemical companies are prohibited from selling the chemical --> correct
choice c is better for two reasons.
- 'directive that ... be prohibited' is more awkward than 'directive prohibiting ...', and may in fact be considered incorrect. (from what i've seen, the use of 'directive' is similar to that of 'law', and you can't say things like 'prohibition was a law that the sale of alcohol be prohibited'.)
- 'prohibited from sale': i'm pretty sure that's wrong. the correct use of the idiom in this case would be 'chemical companies were prohibited from selling chemicals...'
you could also say that the sale of such chemicals is prohibited. chemical companies is a person?
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seekmba wrote: Hey noboru, I understand that the correct answer is C but I dont know how to explain it in grammatical language. The below explanation should help. Quote: * if you have
a directive/order/command + that + noun + verb then the verb must be in the COMMAND SUBJUNCTIVE.
so this would have to be
"...directive that any chemical banned in the United States on medical grounds be..."
* you don't use "X is prohibited from ..." unless X is a person.
the chemical is prohibited from being sold --> wrong
chemical companies are prohibited from selling the chemical --> correct
choice c is better for two reasons.
- 'directive that ... be prohibited' is more awkward than 'directive prohibiting ...', and may in fact be considered incorrect. (from what i've seen, the use of 'directive' is similar to that of 'law', and you can't say things like 'prohibition was a law that the sale of alcohol be prohibited'.)
- 'prohibited from sale': i'm pretty sure that's wrong. the correct use of the idiom in this case would be 'chemical companies were prohibited from selling chemicals...'
you could also say that the sale of such chemicals is prohibited. hi all, C looks like a possibility, but.. This sentence is surely not in INDICATIVE mood. Precisely directive is an order, an instruction to do certain things in a specific/particular way. Given this can we say that there is always a degree of uncertainty involved as to wheather or not the other person will follow the directive. Therefore Directive needs to be followed by that. A) that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries---CORRECT form of subjunctive thnx
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tryingharder wrote: seekmba wrote: Hey noboru, I understand that the correct answer is C but I dont know how to explain it in grammatical language. The below explanation should help. Quote: * if you have
a directive/order/command + that + noun + verb then the verb must be in the COMMAND SUBJUNCTIVE.
so this would have to be
"...directive that any chemical banned in the United States on medical grounds be..."
* you don't use "X is prohibited from ..." unless X is a person.
the chemical is prohibited from being sold --> wrong
chemical companies are prohibited from selling the chemical --> correct
choice c is better for two reasons.
- 'directive that ... be prohibited' is more awkward than 'directive prohibiting ...', and may in fact be considered incorrect. (from what i've seen, the use of 'directive' is similar to that of 'law', and you can't say things like 'prohibition was a law that the sale of alcohol be prohibited'.)
- 'prohibited from sale': i'm pretty sure that's wrong. the correct use of the idiom in this case would be 'chemical companies were prohibited from selling chemicals...'
you could also say that the sale of such chemicals is prohibited. hi all, C looks like a possibility, but.. This sentence is surely not in INDICATIVE mood. Precisely directive is an order, an instruction to do certain things in a specific/particular way. Given this can we say that there is always a degree of uncertainty involved as to wheather or not the other person will follow the directive. Therefore Directive needs to be followed by that. A) that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries---CORRECT form of subjunctive thnx Im afraid that OA is not A...
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Re: SC1000 #550 Directive [#permalink]
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What is OA for this?
A looks perfect to me
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nravi4 wrote: What is OA for this?
A looks perfect to me OA is C. I also prefer A rather than C. could anybody clarify?
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Re: SC1000 #550 Directive [#permalink]
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@noboru hey budy sory about this..whats the source ? OA shuld be A
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I don't know how useful is 1000SC to people.. but my teacher recommended me not to solve it.. It brings so much confusion with the answers.. there are some discrepancies too and since it doesn't have a solution to it by the authors themselves, it leaves certain ???? regarding the way to proceed in those questions.. Just some food for thought..
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temp33 wrote: I don't know how useful is 1000SC to people.. but my teacher recommended me not to solve it.. It brings so much confusion with the answers.. there are some discrepancies too and since it doesn't have a solution to it by the authors themselves, it leaves certain ???? regarding the way to proceed in those questions..
Just some food for thought.. And which other SC reliable sources are available (with lots of SC)?
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