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one who (2 logic questions) [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2004, 00:04
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A physician who is too through in conducting a medical checkup is likely to subject the patient to the discomfort and expense of unnecessary tests. One who is not thorough enough is likely to miss some serious problem and therefore give the patient a false sense of security. It is difficult for physicians to judge exactly how thorough they should be. Therefore, it is generally unwise for patients to have medical checkups when they do not feel ill.

1. Which one of the following, if true, would most seriously weaken the argument in the passage?

(A) Some serious diseases in their early stages have symptoms that physicians can readily detect.
(B) Under the pressure of reduced reimbursements, physicians have been reducing the average amount of time they spend on each medical checkup.
(C) Patients not medically trained are unable to judge foe themselves what degree of thoroughness is appropri-ate for physicians in conducting medical checkups.
(D) Many people are financially unable to afford regular medical checkups.
(E) Some physicians sometimes exercise exactly the right degree of thoroughness in performing a medical checkup.

2. Which one of the following, if true, would provide the most support for the conclusion in the passage?

(A) Not all medical tests entail significant discomfort.
(B) Sometimes unnecessary medical tests cause healthy people to become ill.
(C) Some patients refuse to accept a physician’s assurance that the patient is healthy.
(D) The more complete the series of tests performed in a medical checkup, the more likely it is that a rare dis-ease, if present, will be discovered.
(E) Physicians can eliminate the need to order certain tests by carefully questioning patients and rejecting some possibilities on that basis.
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 [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2004, 00:45
my answers:

1) A
2) B (assuming that questioning patients is a part of medical checkup)
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 [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2004, 05:15
My ans are C & E

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Re: one who (2 logic questions) [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2004, 05:44
My answers are 1-E and 2-B

As per 1-E, if some physicians exactly the right degree of thoroughness in performing a medical checkup, then it makes sense for the patients to have medical checkups even if they donot feel ill. Thus, it clearly weakens the argument.

A - supports the (1st part of the) argument
B - 'time' makes it out of scope or vaguely supports (2nd part of the) argument and it is not affecting the argument in any way.
C - The argument does not talk about patient's judgement about physician's thoroughness. And the word 'training' makes it out of scope
D - Clearly out of scope as the argument is concerned about the finance.

As per 2-B, if ,sometimes, unnecessary medical tests cause healthy people to become ill, then it is better not to go for checkups if they donot feel ill.

A - vaguely supports but does not affect the conclusion much.
C - 'assurance' makes it out of scope.
D - Supports the first half of the argument than the conclusion.
E - Actually weakens the argument. Then the patients are already undergoing a 'kind of checkup'

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Questions 1—2
A physician who is too through in conducting a medical checkup is likely to subject the patient to the discomfort and expense of unnecessary tests. One who is not thorough enough is likely to miss some serious problem and therefore give the patient a false sense of security. It is difficult for physicians to judge exactly how thorough they should be. Therefore, it is generally unwise for patients to have medical checkups when they do not feel ill.

1. Which one of the following, if true, would most seriously weaken the argument in the passage?

(A) Some serious diseases in their early stages have symptoms that physicians can readily detect.
(B) Under the pressure of reduced reimbursements, physicians have been reducing the average amount of time they spend on each medical checkup.
(C) Patients not medically trained are unable to judge foe themselves what degree of thoroughness is appropri-ate for physicians in conducting medical checkups.
(D) Many people are financially unable to afford regular medical checkups.
(E) Some physicians sometimes exercise exactly the right degree of thoroughness in performing a medical checkup.

2. Which one of the following, if true, would provide the most support for the conclusion in the passage?

(A) Not all medical tests entail significant discomfort.
(B) Sometimes unnecessary medical tests cause healthy people to become ill.
(C) Some patients refuse to accept a physician’s assurance that the patient is healthy.
(D) The more complete the series of tests performed in a medical checkup, the more likely it is that a rare dis-ease, if present, will be discovered.
(E) Physicians can eliminate the need to order certain tests by carefully questioning patients and rejecting some possibilities on that basis.

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 [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2004, 07:42
my answers:
C and
E
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 [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2004, 09:29
1) conclusion states that we shouldn't visit doctors unless we get sick.

(A) Some serious diseases in their early stages have symptoms that physicians can readily detect.

Ability to prevent seriuos diseases from entering into a late stage is reason enough for us to visit doctors w/t being sick.

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(B) Sometimes unnecessary medical tests cause healthy people to become ill.
That's reason enough not to go to a doctor -- some of the tests run by some physicians who run too many unnecessary test may harm you!
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 [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2004, 13:51
1. A
2. B
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 [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2004, 18:19
A and B and agree with iatoshka's explanation

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 [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2004, 18:27
1- C would have been good if it did not talk about the "the patient's knowledge about the level of thoroughness that a physician should apply". That is clearly out of scope.
2- E --> conclusion says that patients should not see physicians. However, even though the doctor can eliminate certain tests by asking questions, does that support the effectiveness of any of the performed ones? E is out.

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 [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2004, 19:10
ye, you are right, Paul. I was just thinking wayward.

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 [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2004, 00:08
A and B are the official answers
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Re: one who (2 logic questions) [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2004, 12:30
stolyar wrote:
Questions 1—2
A physician who is too through in conducting a medical checkup is likely to subject the patient to the discomfort and expense of unnecessary tests. One who is not thorough enough is likely to miss some serious problem and therefore give the patient a false sense of security. It is difficult for physicians to judge exactly how thorough they should be. Therefore, it is generally unwise for patients to have medical checkups when they do not feel ill.

1. Which one of the following, if true, would most seriously weaken the argument in the passage?

(A) Some serious diseases in their early stages have symptoms that physicians can readily detect.
(B) Under the pressure of reduced reimbursements, physicians have been reducing the average amount of time they spend on each medical checkup.
(C) Patients not medically trained are unable to judge foe themselves what degree of thoroughness is appropri-ate for physicians in conducting medical checkups.
(D) Many people are financially unable to afford regular medical checkups.
(E) Some physicians sometimes exercise exactly the right degree of thoroughness in performing a medical checkup.

2. Which one of the following, if true, would provide the most support for the conclusion in the passage?

(A) Not all medical tests entail significant discomfort.
(B) Sometimes unnecessary medical tests cause healthy people to become ill.
(C) Some patients refuse to accept a physician’s assurance that the patient is healthy.
(D) The more complete the series of tests performed in a medical checkup, the more likely it is that a rare dis-ease, if present, will be discovered.
(E) Physicians can eliminate the need to order certain tests by carefully questioning patients and rejecting some possibilities on that basis.


Can anyone explain how A is better than E in Q1.

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 [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2004, 12:48
E is just a very weak assertion. So what if some physicians sometimes exercise exactly the right degree of thoroughness? You still don't directly attack the claim that it's not worth to see doctors

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 [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2004, 18:22
Agree with Paul's explanation but "Some serious diseases" in A and "Sometimes" in B make me think.

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 [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2004, 20:27
1C
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