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Only seven people this century have been killed by the great [#permalink] New post 25 Oct 2008, 16:43
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Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—less than those killed by bee stings.
A. movies—less than those
B. movies—fewer than have been
C. movies, which is less than those
D. movies, a number lower than the people
E. movies, fewer than the ones

How exactly is "," & "-" should be used ??
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Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—less than those killed by bee stings.
A. movies—less than those
B. moviesfewer than have been
C. movies, which is less than those
D. movies, a number lower than the people
E. movies, fewer than the ones

How exactly is "," & "-" should be used ??


I welcome that discussion about comma & and.

As far as hyphen is concerned, I have seen them when we want to list items. For example Fruits- Apples , Oranges, grapes

For example take this word man-eater from your sentence. some thing that eats man

with out hyphen man eater would not make sense

I was down to B & E. B sounds as if the fewer are movies themselves and also fewer than what??

E seems simple but I am not sure what exactly it is modifying. But If I take the dependent clause out and read it is good.

B shows parallelism by using have been for the folks killed by bee stings. But the comparison does not sound right??

What is the OA and source?
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Re: Sc -- How exactly is "," & "-" should be used ?? [#permalink] New post 25 Oct 2008, 17:40
icandy , which form is better/correct :

", ... -" OR "-......-"

will post the OA soon (let some other people try)

i chose B (mainly because of "have been") , i was wrong though
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Re: Sc -- How exactly is "," & "-" should be used ?? [#permalink] New post 25 Oct 2008, 18:34
I think the answer boils down to E.

Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—less than those killed by bee stings.
A. movies—less than those
B. movies—fewer than have been
C. movies, which is less than those
D. movies, a number lower than the people
E. movies, fewer than the ones

Well, generally (I believe so) "-" is used when the clause following the hyphen is either an independent clause.

OA please?
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Re: Sc -- How exactly is "," & "-" should be used ?? [#permalink] New post 25 Oct 2008, 21:51
I will go with D.....since number will be lower down
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Re: Sc -- How exactly is "," & "-" should be used ?? [#permalink] New post 26 Oct 2008, 02:43
stallone wrote:
Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—less than those killed by bee stings.
A. movies—less than those
B. movies—fewer than have been
C. movies, which is less than those
D. movies, a number lower than the people
E. movies, fewer than the ones

How exactly is "," & "-" should be used ??


fewer VS less. We can eliminate A and C.

fewer - countable
less - uncountable


B and D have wrong comparison.

Only E left. I am not sure about the usage of "-" and ","

icandy's explanation is good.
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Re: Sc -- How exactly is "," & "-" should be used ?? [#permalink] New post 26 Oct 2008, 13:10
OA is E
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Re: Sc -- How exactly is "," & "-" should be used ?? [#permalink] New post 27 Oct 2008, 01:28
Here "-" is clearly wrong as there is a noun modifier "the man eater of the movies" in the middle of the sentence and hence this modifier should have a comma before and after it.
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Re: Sc -- How exactly is "," & "-" should be used ?? [#permalink] New post 27 Oct 2008, 10:23
amitdgr wrote:
Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—less than those killed by bee stings.
A. movies—less than those
B. movies—fewer than have been
C. movies, which is less than those
D. movies, a number lower than the people
E. movies, fewer than the ones

How exactly is "," & "-" should be used ??


Well, just goes to show you... some of those clowns making GMAT prep materials don't speak proper English.

The answer should be B.

A is wrong because "less" is obviously the improper modifier to use.
C is wrong because the "which is" construction makes it awkward and, again, you have "less."
D is wrong on face.
E is wrong because what "the ones" refers to is vague. You could infer it, of course, but the construction is all effed up.

Honestly, the so-called "rules" for using dashes change all the time, depending on what medium you're communicating in. The "&" symbol is inappropriate almost anywhere, except perhaps in a title (eg. Johnson & Johnson). How and where to use commas is worthy of an entire book of English grammar, and to tell the truth, the vast majority of people misuse them. College-educated folks here in the States write with awful comma splices and usage all the time. Pick up an MLA manual and read about it.
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Re: Sc -- How exactly is "," & "-" should be used ?? [#permalink] New post 27 Oct 2008, 10:56
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amitdgr wrote:
Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—less than those killed by bee stings.
A. movies—less than those
B. movies—fewer than have been
C. movies, which is less than those
D. movies, a number lower than the people
E. movies, fewer than the ones

How exactly is "," & "-" should be used ??


Well, just goes to show you... some of those clowns making GMAT prep materials don't speak proper English.

The answer should be B.

A is wrong because "less" is obviously the improper modifier to use.
C is wrong because the "which is" construction makes it awkward and, again, you have "less."
D is wrong on face.
E is wrong because what "the ones" refers to is vague. You could infer it, of course, but the construction is all effed up.

Honestly, the so-called "rules" for using dashes change all the time, depending on what medium you're communicating in. The "&" symbol is inappropriate almost anywhere, except perhaps in a title (eg. Johnson & Johnson). How and where to use commas is worthy of an entire book of English grammar, and to tell the truth, the vast majority of people misuse them. College-educated folks here in the States write with awful comma splices and usage all the time. Pick up an MLA manual and read about it.


I also think B is correct, contrary to the OA :?
I don't like "the ones" in E either... try rewriting it (E) without commas like this:
Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, fewer than the ones killed by bee stings

Compared to (B)'s construction without commas, which is much clearer.
Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, fewer than have been killed by bee stings

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Re: Sc -- How exactly is "," & "-" should be used ?? [#permalink] New post 06 Aug 2011, 13:14
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Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—less than those killed by bee stings.
A. movies—less than those [highlight][incorrectly compares movies by using movies - less than .......][/highlight]
B. movies—fewer than have been [highlight][parallel construction >>>have been.......have been][/highlight]
C. movies, which is less than those [highlight][which refers to movies][/highlight]
D. movies, a number lower than the people [highlight]["which "incorrectly refers to movies][/highlight]
E. movies, fewer than the ones[highlight]["fewer" incorrectly modifies movies][/highlight]

How exactly is "," & "-" should be used ??


hence B is the answer
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Re: Sc -- How exactly is "," & "-" should be used ?? [#permalink] New post 06 Aug 2011, 20:14
I also went with B.

I didn't like E because of the usage of "ones". "Ones" is possessive, and its usage gives a feeling that it is referring to specific human beings. ( as they know who are the people who were killed by bee stings).

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Re: Only seven people this century have been killed by the great [#permalink] New post 05 Jul 2012, 01:25
I was tossing and turning between B and E, I chose E because the "have been" in B sounded awkward. Could someone please explain how B is correct?
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