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(A) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecturer at Harvard, in 1932, John Dewey in his major writing on aesthetics, Art as Experience, declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds

Antecedent of what was delivered is unclear. Art of experience was delivered as the first William James lecture.


(C) Originally delivering Art as Experience as the first William James Lecturer at Harvard in 1932, John Dewey in his major writing on aesthetics declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds man and mankind of their responsibilities towards each other

'Art of Experience' was John Dewey's major writing on aesthetics. Above statement does not clearly refer 'Art of experience' as John Dewey's major writing.

(E) When it was originally delivered as the first William James Lecturer at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declared that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience communed together, an encounter that reminds man and mankind of their responsibilities towards each other

Use of tenses is not parallel. 'declared that....communed together...' are in the past tense while 'encounter reminds' is not.

B & D remain.


(D) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecturer at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declared that through such an expressive art, the artists and the audience communed together, an encounter that reminded man and mankind of their responsibilities towards each other

'Such an expressive art' does not have a clear reference to a particular expressive art.

(B) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecturer at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds man and mankind of their responsibilities towards each other

Correct Answer.
All references are proper. All the tenses are in the present tense (declares, commune, reminds).

Had a tough time explaining this. Great question. Kudos.
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A ==> Incorrect because of the usage of present tense 'declares' as this event happened in the past tense (1932)

B ==> CORRECT...Appropriate usage of tense

C ==> Incorrect because of the usage of 'Originally delivering'....

D ==> Incorrect...can rule this out only because of the 'such an expressive art' usage..Guys do let me know that apart from this error...the general usage of past tense is appropriate as it seems fine to me..

E ==> Incorrect usage of timeline???? something didne seem right with this choice though couldnt exactly pinpoint to one particular reason.
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Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard, in 1932, John Dewey in his major writing on aesthetics, Art as Experience, declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds man and mankind of their responsibilities towards each other

In the given sentence
Originally delivered as Lecture at Harvard is modifying John Dewey which does not make sense and hence A is incorrect.


B. Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds
seems to be correct

C. Originally delivering Art as Experience as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, John Dewey in his major writing on aesthetics declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds
Art as experience is the John Dewey's major writing as this sentence misses to convey that meaning directly and appears as if John declares sth in his writing while originally delivering Art of experience as someone else lecture & this is meaningless.
as john major writing is delivered as James lecture and the intended meaning gets deviated here.


D. Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declared that through such an expressive art, the artists and the audience communed together, an encounter that reminded
writing declares sth and that should be in present tense.
declared, communed and reminded play the spoilsport here.


E. When it was originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declared that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience communed together, an encounter that reminds
usage of When changes the meaning here.
past tense error as in D repeats here.


can someone explain where did I go wrong in understanding option C?

Originally posted by Nevernevergiveup on 06 Oct 2015, 09:31.
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There is a small typo in the passage; it should read as the William James Lecture and not as William James Lecturer, wherever it appears. However this does not impact the passage.

First, let us look at the logic behind the syntax and the semantics. “Art as experience” is the name of a writing by John Dewey. We must remember that the book does not declare but through the writing, John declares that through an expressive art blah, blah …

Secondly the declaration remains valid even today and probably will also in the future and hence a simple present tense is required to describe the declaration

(A) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard, in 1932, John Dewey in his major writing on aesthetics, Art as Experience, declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds -
Originally delivered -- John Dewey – wrong modification

(B) originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds
Modification is ok, but that the writing declares is wrong

(C) Originally delivering Art as Experience as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, John Dewey in his major writing on aesthetics declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds
Right Choice -

(D) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, and John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declared that through such an expressive art, the artists and the audience communed together, an encounter that reminded
Wrong because the writing declared and also past tenses are used to describe declaration and reminding

(E) When it was originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declared that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience communed together, an encounter that reminds
Wrong because the writing declared.

C is the OA


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I have a doubt !!

Isn't it the case that ,the action that present participle modifier denotes and the action that the subject of the sentence denotes must be of same tense and must happen in the same time frame?

Originally delivering Art as Experience as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932 - delivering happened in the past (in 1932)
and
John Dewey in his major writing on aesthetics declares - Declares in Present

They both are not coinciding in the same time frame.

I am a bit confused here.
Could you please clarify
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Not so; when some eternal fact was said in the past, the fact remains everlasting; For example, Galileo said centuries ago that Earth orbits the Sun. Because earth’s orbiting the Sun is an eternal and universal fact. However, can we say, ‘Galileo says’? That would be wrong since Galileo is not there now to say it. In the given question, while the delivery might have been in the past, the author talks about an everlasting phenomenon. Therefore, that is acceptable.
Look at this: Winning their 30th match in Women’s Doubles at Sydney on Jan 15, Sania and Hingis have taken the No 1 spot in the world ranking.
Here, the winning happened in the past but the main clause is in the present perfect. So the verb tense is decided more by the context than by any thumb rule.
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The original sentence quotes that John Dewey declares..X...Y...Z... and without changing the meaning of the original sentence "C" would be the right answer .
Other options conclude that the book declares..X...Y...Z... which will change the sense of the original sentence.
ITS THE PERSON WHO DECLARES AND NOT THE BOOK. So "C"
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Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard, in 1932, John Dewey in his major writing on aesthetics, Art as Experience, declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds man and mankind of their responsibilities towards each other


(A) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard, in 1932, John Dewey in his major writing on aesthetics, Art as Experience, declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds . Incorrect

(B) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds . Incorrect

(C) Originally delivering Art as Experience as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, John Dewey in his major writing on aesthetics declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds . Correct


(D) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declared that through such an expressive art, the artists and the audience communed together, an encounter that reminded
. Incorrect
(E) When it was originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declared that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience communed together, an encounter that reminds. Incorrect(No correct referrant of it)
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Got the answer correct but still confused with the beginning part Originally delivering

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I have one small confusion. I have used misplaced modifier to eliminate A. and all other are eliminated because of "Writings cannot declare but only a living being can". Is the second decision point contextual? As sometimes we tend to treat books, writings, etc, as a living being and use similar language.
I actually couldn't think of second decision point in the first go and felt that it might not be my natural thought process if I harbor the confusion that Dewey's writing could also declare. Kindly help me in this.
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(A) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard, in 1932, John Dewey in his major writing on aesthetics, Art as Experience, declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds

"John Dewey" cannot be "originally delivered".... (except as an infant, maybe!) but this sentence refers to Dewey as a lecture, a reference that is nonsensical.

(B) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds
Tricky one here. The title of a course cannot "declare" anything; only a human can. Also, if we strikeout the rest of the sentence, it doesn't even form a coherent sentence: "Originally delivered as the first WJL at Harvard, Art as Experience." Where is the comma? Can a "major writing on aesthetics" be "delivered as a lecture"? I think not.

(C) Originally delivering Art as Experience as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, John Dewey in his major writing on aesthetics declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds
Proper modifier. Correct subject-verb agreement.

(D) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declared that through such an expressive art, the artists and the audience communed together, an encounter that reminded
The lecture title is correctly modified here. The verb tense is wrong - "declared" should be "declares" since a piece of writing stating XYZ lives onward. The rest of the sentence should be in present tense too! Writings stating XYZ can generally be thought of as definitions, which do not need to be in past tense.

(E) When it was originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declared that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience communed together, an encounter that reminds
"It" refers to the lecture name, which is OK. We have a tense problem here though (same as D).

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Hi daagh,

I eliminated option B D and E on the basis that they are sentence fragments.


For example in B

Modifier, subject (art as experience), modifier,

There is no verb for the subject
Am I right ?

(B) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds

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I eliminated option B D and E on the basis that they are sentence fragments.

For example in B

Modifier, subject (art as experience), modifier,

There is no verb for the subject
Am I right?

(B) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declares that through expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds


(B) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declares that through expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds

Ignoring the modifier, we can see that the subject is John Dewey’s major writing.
Its verb is declares

that through expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds -- This is a dependent clause with the artists and the audience as the subject and commune as the verb for the subject

Therefore what other verb is required? The problem with B is that the declaration is done by the lecture but not by the lecturer.

(D) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declared that through such an expressive art, the artists and the audience communed together, an encounter that reminded

As in B, John for the main sentence, Dewey's major writing is the subject and declared is the verb for the main clause. The artists and the audience is the subject of the dependent clause and communed is the past tense verb. The problem with D is the past tense verbs that have been used.


(E) When it was originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declared that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience communed together, an encounter that reminds -- Major writing is the subject, and declared and communed are the verbs. There is no problem with fragmentation here also.

What is the root cause of the misconception?



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bhargavakumartu wrote:
I have one small confusion. I have used misplaced modifier to eliminate A. and all other are eliminated because of "Writings cannot declare but only a living being can". Is the second decision point contextual? As sometimes we tend to treat books, writings, etc, as a living being and use similar language.
I actually couldn't think of second decision point(writings can't declare) in the first go and felt that it might not be my natural thought process if I harbor the confusion that Dewey's writing could also declare. Kindly help me in this.
Thank you for your support.


Hi,

if anyone can clarify on this it would be very helpful.
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Why B isn't the correct answer

(B) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds

the Modifier "Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932," should ask who has delivered the lecture. It should obviously refer to John Dewey, but the option says John Dewey's which will end up with a meaning that His major writings have delivered the lecture and not Dewey himself which doesn't really make sense !!!
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the Modifier "Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932," should ask who has delivered the lecture. It should obviously refer to John Dewey, but the option says John Dewey's which will end up with a meaning that His major writings have delivered the lecture and not Dewey himself which doesn't really make sense !!!

Look at the two modifier phrases and the inherent difference in what they imply.

1. "Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932"--- The correct question here to ask is' what was delivered and not who delivered. The past participle 'delivered; implies a passive voice. Here we cannot assert Jon Dewey was delivered.

2. Originally delivering Art as Experience as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, John Dewey. The correct question to ask is ' who was delivering. It can be only John Dewey and not the book

Therefore, I do not see an issue about modification in B. The problem as I see is that it is not so correct to say that the book declared something. Can books categorically declare something? They can at best express something or describe things. I feel between a creator and his creation, the creator is more relevant.
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Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard, in 1932, John Dewey in his major writing on aesthetics, Art as Experience, declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds man and mankind of their responsibilities towards each other


(A) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard, in 1932, John Dewey (John Dewey’s major writing should have followed the comma)in his major writing on aesthetics, Art as Experience, declares that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds
Hence option A is incorrect

(B) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declares (the writing cannot declare something.It was Joh who made the declaration) that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds
Hence option B is incorrect

(C) Originally delivering Art as Experience as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, John Dewey in his major writing on aesthetics declares (the present tense ‘declares’ is correct since the writing is still relevant’)that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience commune together, an encounter that reminds
Option C is Correct

(D) Originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s major writing on aesthetics declared that through such an expressive art, the artists and the audience communed together, an encounter that reminded(wrong tense)
Hence option D is incorrect


(E) When it was originally delivered as the first William James Lecture at Harvard in 1932, Art as Experience, John Dewey’s (John Dewey should have followed the comma) major writing on aesthetics declared that through an expressive art, the artists and the audience communed together, an encounter that reminds
Hence option E is incorrect
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