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Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power, while in Germany it is just over 33 percent.

1 while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
2 compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent
3 whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany
4 whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
5 compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33 percent
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 [#permalink] New post 25 Jun 2006, 19:28
Only D maintains ||ism.
Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power ,whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
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 [#permalink] New post 25 Jun 2006, 22:14
Will go with D.
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Re: confusing one [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2009, 04:21
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Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power,whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany

tricky! huh
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Re: confusing one [#permalink] New post 28 Jul 2010, 11:28
Could anybody clarify between D and E?
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Re: confusing one [#permalink] New post 28 Jul 2010, 20:05
The same was discussed on BTG.com ..
Pretty good reasoning given out there...

http://www.beatthegmat.com/sc-help-t13745.html
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Re: confusing one [#permalink] New post 29 Aug 2010, 06:37
This one has not been clarified yet.
For me D is the best (||), but oa is C.
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Re: confusing one [#permalink] New post 29 Aug 2010, 16:15
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hey noboru,

the below explanation should help.

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Quote:D) whereas just over 33% of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany

this sentence is written in a way whose meaning is at best ambiguous and at worst incorrect.

one possible meaning, if not the meaning, is that 33% of "the energy" (we don't know where this energy is, or where it's used) comes from "nuclear power in germany". i.e., the power itself is in germany (whatever that means), but "the energy" is we-don't-know-where.

Quote:E) compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33%

first, false comparison: the earlier part doesn't mention "the energy from nuclear power in france", so this isn't parallel. (the earlier part mentions a percentage of ALL power in france.)

second, and more obviously, the pronoun "it" doesn't have a legitimate antecedent, for essentially the same reason as in (a).
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Re: Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives [#permalink] New post 10 Aug 2013, 16:04
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This is a tricky one. You need to pay extra attention to MEANING.

We are talking about what PERCENT of energy comes from source X for France, and then the same thing for Germany.

So the beginning of the sentence correctly says "over 75% of energy in France comes from nuclear".

Now look at (D): "33% of the energy comes from [nuclear power in Germany]"

Is this really what we're trying to say?

What we really want to say is "33% of the energy in Germany comes from nuclear power"

Note, this is different from what (D) says. It's close, but the shuffling of the words changes the meaning. They purposely do that to trick you. So structurally it looks like it runs parallel, but MEANING-wise it's not correct. (C) doesn't look parallel, but it matches exactly what we are trying to say.
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Re: Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives [#permalink] New post 12 Jun 2014, 21:42
To summarize:

Between (C) and (D) we should check the modification error.

(D).33% of THE energy ( which energy)

(C). THE energy produced in Germany
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Re: Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives [#permalink] New post 01 Aug 2014, 00:53
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Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power, while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
A. while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
B. compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent
C. whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany
D. whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
E. compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33 percent



my doubts are related to Ellipsis.Please clarify.

meaning- The author says that over 75 percent of the total energy produced in France comes from the nuclear power, while only 33 percent of the total energy produced in Germany comes from nuclear power.





A) Incorrect- while in Germany it is just over 33 percent.

1) According to me here IT is ambiguous.

while in Germany ( the energy produced from) it (nuclear power) is just over 33 percent.

while in Germany it(the energy) (produced from nuclear power) is just over 33 percent.

So it can refer to either the energy or nuclear power.



2)According to me there is ambiguity in comparison too.

while in Germany ( the energy produced from) it (nuclear power) is just over 33 percent.
this sentence doesn't convey the intended comparison, it doesn't say that 33 percent of the total energy produced in Germany.

while (the energy produced ) in Germany (from) it (nuclear power) is just over 33 percent.
This is the intended meaning.





Option B) compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent.

even this is ambiguous.

if we don't use ellipsis.
The energy produced in France is compared to Germany.(this is incorrect)

with ellipsis.
compared to ( the energy produced from nuclear power in ) Germany,which uses just over 33 percent.

Even this doesn't state the intended meaning but my point is that there are 2 comparisons possible.

DOUBT- is this all correct ?? or have i gone too far with Ellipsis. am i missing something.

And can we use that the comparison is illogical or incorrect because we didnt use ellipsis as i did in option B)

if we don't use ellipsis.
The energy produced in France is compared to Germany.(this is incorrect)
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Re: Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives [#permalink] New post 01 Aug 2014, 03:43
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Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power, while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
A. while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
B. compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent
C. whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany
D. whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
E. compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33 percent



my doubts are related to Ellipsis.Please clarify.

meaning- The author says that over 75 percent of the total energy produced in France comes from the nuclear power, while only 33 percent of the total energy produced in Germany comes from nuclear power.





A) Incorrect- while in Germany it is just over 33 percent.

1) According to me here IT is ambiguous.

while in Germany ( the energy produced from) it (nuclear power) is just over 33 percent.

while in Germany it(the energy) (produced from nuclear power) is just over 33 percent.

So it can refer to either the energy or nuclear power.



2)According to me there is ambiguity in comparison too.

while in Germany ( the energy produced from) it (nuclear power) is just over 33 percent.
this sentence doesn't convey the intended comparison, it doesn't say that 33 percent of the total energy produced in Germany.

while (the energy produced ) in Germany (from) it (nuclear power) is just over 33 percent.
This is the intended meaning.





Option B) compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent.

even this is ambiguous.

if we don't use ellipsis.
The energy produced in France is compared to Germany.(this is incorrect)

with ellipsis.
compared to ( the energy produced from nuclear power in ) Germany,which uses just over 33 percent.

Even this doesn't state the intended meaning but my point is that there are 2 comparisons possible.

DOUBT- is this all correct ?? or have i gone too far with Ellipsis. am i missing something.

And can we use that the comparison is illogical or incorrect because we didnt use ellipsis as i did in option B)

if we don't use ellipsis.
The energy produced in France is compared to Germany.(this is incorrect)



Hi Sid,
Thank you for posting you query here. :)

Your analysis seems correct to me. In option A, the ambiguity in comparison arises because the reference of "it" is not clear. So, the pronoun error causes the ambiguity in comparison also.

In option B again, I'll say you have clearly understood both the cases, and analyzed them correctly. However, you need not to consider the second case (with ellipsis). If you focus on the ellipsis questions in GMAT, generally a preposition or a verb is omitted to bring the ambiguity in the meaning. You won't usually see long phrases such as "the energy produced from nuclear power in" omitted.


Hope this helps. :)
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Re: Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives [#permalink] New post 01 Aug 2014, 07:34
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A) Incorrect- while in Germany it is just over 33 percent.

1) According to me here IT is ambiguous.

Not just ambiguous, it actually does not have any referent.

Quote:
while in Germany ( the energy produced from) it (nuclear power) is just over 33 percent.

while in Germany it(the energy) (produced from nuclear power) is just over 33 percent.

As e-gmat mentioned, there is really no case of ellipsis here. The main reason why A is incorrect is because of incorrect usage of it. It is also important to understand that the left hand side of the sentence does not talk at all about energy produced from nuclear power. It is talking about energy derived from nuclear power. So, we cannot assume that it refers to energy produced from nuclear power.

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Option B) compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent.

with ellipsis.
compared to ( the energy produced from nuclear power in ) Germany,which uses just over 33 percent.

Again, for the reason cited above, we cannot assume this, because left hand side does not mention energy produced from nuclear power.

The easiest way to eliminate B is that it says: Germany uses just over 33 percent; nothing about the usage is mentioned or implied in the original sentence.
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Re: Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives [#permalink] New post 07 Oct 2014, 00:13
Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power, while in Germany it is just over 33 percent.

Intended meaning:
1:75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power.
2: In Germany the energy produced from the nuc is just over 33 percent.

Whats is compared here?
>>the energy produced from nuclear.

1 while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
>>What does it point? to "75 percent of the energy " or "the energy".None of them goes well with sentence.
2 compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent
>> Germany and "the energy prod from nuclear" are compared.Wrong
3 whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany
>> this says 33% of energy produced in Germany comes from nuclear power. Same as in France. Correct.
4 whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
>> This says 33% of energy comes from nuclear power in Germany.
5 compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33 percent
>>same as A.
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