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Update: I went to Green Templeton College, Oxford.....and Thank God for that !

How do you feel about Oxford MBA? especially: Impact of economic crisis in Europe and change in visa regulations

I loved Oxford and loved the experience and am very happy that I picked it over INSEAD. Once you join a program you will understand that the rankings don't mean a damn thing.....

The impact of the economic crisis is over-rated because the unemployment rate for people with post-graduate degrees is lower than the average unemployment rate, even in the UK. The top b-schools in the UK produce less than 1000 graduates a year combined so even during the worst of economic times there are always opportunities for good people. Investment banking is kaput for the time being but consulting firms still need a lot of canon fodder so they are still hiring as are many other companies. I had interviews with 11 different employers during the year so that should give you an idea of what to expect if you hustle....having said that it also depends on your profile and personality....whether you go to Oxford or somewhere else, if you think that Careers will get you a job, think again. The people in my class who got the jobs they wanted just tried harder.....and it worked out for them. The networking opportunity at Oxford is UNBELIEVABLE so if you have a cunning plan and know how to execute, you're golden !

The visa issue is real, but is likely to get simpler over the coming years as employers get a better understanding of the sponsorship process. Many people in my class have been sponsored so its not as big a deal as people think it is. Just have a solid plan B in case it does'nt work out in the UK and look for work globally and opportunistically....

Let me know if you have specific questions and good luck !
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05 Nov 2012, 16:28
I am also between Insead and Oxford (assuming both accept me ) and I am also a "mature" applicant. You feel very happy about having gone to Oxford so I would really appreciate any feedback. Cheers.
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07 Nov 2012, 09:42
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Ducksworth wrote:
I am also between Insead and Oxford (assuming both accept me ) and I am also a "mature" applicant. You feel very happy about having gone to Oxford so I would really appreciate any feedback. Cheers.

Looks like you are also Canadian so that's one more thing we have in common ! Good luck with your applications !

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08 Nov 2012, 17:38
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Chem21 wrote:
Thanks for the great insights, Khagan!

One question:
You mentioned consulting is still hiring at Oxford, and the big boys (MBBB) are active there.
Since Said's class is relatively older than the American ones considering the average of 6 years of work experience, are there any obstacles to older candidates (33-35 years old with 7 years of experience) trying to make the switch? Or are these candidates also being snapped up?

There are no obstacles to older candidates. There was a 38 year old in the class before me who went to McK. Having said that, please understand that Saïd is not a 'consulting' school per se. Although MBBB do recruit here, they typically have a quota per school although they pretend they do not. Your chances of getting that job would be higher if you went to one of the 'consulting' focused schools.

A more important question to ask yourself is why consulting? Why not try and get the job which you would try and get AFTER consulting? 1 in 10 Associates at McK make partner and 1 in 10 partners will make Director so the odds are against you even if you get that job. As an Associate you will work long hours with terrible self-obsessed people who will pretend that they care about your development. We had an MBB presentation the other day and one of the Associates they brought along kept using the "F*%$" word during the presentation. The HR lady escorting him did not correct him, which was amusing and inappropriate. Do you really want this guy as your boss? Finally, the exits from MBBB are not what they used to be even 10 years ago. When the firms were smaller, you could go from being a junior partner to COO of Continental Airlines (true story) but this is not the case any more. Exits are especially not so great for Associates and EM, much better if you make Partner. Also the guy who ran McK for a decade has just been imprisoned for insider trading and Monitor has declared bankruptcy today and is being sold to Deloitte. Think hard about what you want to do.... Thanks for the insight, Khagan! Hmm... something to think about... Intern Joined: 03 Jan 2013 Posts: 9 Followers: 0 Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 0 Re: Oxford Full Time MBA (w/ $$) vs. INSEAD Executive MBA [#permalink] ### Show Tags 08 Jan 2013, 21:30 I am also between Insead and Oxford Re: Oxford Full Time MBA (w/$$$) vs. INSEAD Executive MBA   [#permalink] 08 Jan 2013, 21:30
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