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2013 US NEWS MBA Rankings are out [#permalink] New post  12 Mar 2012, 19:51
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2013 US NEWS MBA Rankings are out



1. Harvard Business School, Stanford GSB (tie)
3. Wharton
4. Chicago Booth, Kellogg, MIT Sloan (tie)
7. Berkeley Haas
8. Columbia Business School
9. Tuck
10. Yale SOM
11. NYU Stern
12. Duke Fuqua
13. Michigan Ross, Virginia Darden (tie)
15. UCLA Anderson
16. Cornell Johnson
17. Texas McCombs
18. Carnegie Mellon Tepper
19. Emory Goizueta, UNC Kenan Flager (tie)

https://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... a-rankings
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Re: New US NEWS Rankings [#permalink] New post  12 Mar 2012, 21:23
Tuck & Olin dropped a couple...Emory & Vandy moved up a few slots compared to last year. Everything else seems pretty minor.
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Re: 2013 US NEWS MBA Rankings are out [#permalink] New post  12 Mar 2012, 23:34
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Historical threads:

2008: us-news-2008-rankings-43848.html
2009: official-2009-us-news-mba-rankings-77961.html
2010: LEAK! leak-usnews-2010-mba-rankings-yale-som-breaks-top-77830.html
2011: Missing a thread...
2012: 2012-us-news-ranking-110711.html

Also, historical US news rankings from 1990 till 2008
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Re: 2013 US NEWS MBA Rankings are out [#permalink] New post  13 Mar 2012, 01:31
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bb wrote:
Historical threads:

2008: us-news-2008-rankings-43848.html
2009: official-2009-us-news-mba-rankings-77961.html
2010: LEAK! leak-usnews-2010-mba-rankings-yale-som-breaks-top-77830.html
2011: Missing a thread...
2012: 2012-us-news-ranking-110711.html

Also, historical US news rankings from 1990 till 2008
by js55 (attached)

Thanks bb. for the historical threads.
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Re: 2013 US NEWS MBA Rankings are out [#permalink] New post  13 Mar 2012, 03:43
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Just realized the amazing ascent of Rice MBA program in the US News ranking over the past few years.
42 (in 2010) to 34 (in 2011) and now a 25th place in the latest ranking (in 2012).
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Re: 2013 US NEWS MBA Rankings are out [#permalink] New post  13 Mar 2012, 03:55
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Just realized the amazing ascent of Rice MBA program in the US News ranking over the past few years.
42 (in 2010) to 34 (in 2011) and now a 25th place in the latest ranking (in 2012).


Considering that Rice is generally one of the top universities in the US overall, not too surprising.
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Re: 2013 US NEWS MBA Rankings are out [#permalink] New post  13 Mar 2012, 04:37
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2013 US NEWS MBA Rankings are out



  1. HBS
  2. Stanford
  3. Wharton
  4. MIT Sloan
  5. Kellogg
  6. Booth
  7. Haas
  8. CBS
  9. Tuck
  10. Yale
  11. Stern
  12. Fuqua
  13. Ross
  14. Darden
  15. UCLA
  16. Johnson
  17. McCombs
  18. Tepper
  19. Goizueta
  20. UNC
  21. Marshall
  22. Olin
  23. Kelley
  24. McDonough
  25. Fisher


https://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... a-rankings


There are a bunch of ties. How many #25 schools are there? Wow!

Surprised that MIT fell into a 3 way tie for 4th place with K and B. W still can't crack the H & S stronghold. interesting.
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Re: 2013 US NEWS MBA Rankings are out [#permalink] New post  13 Mar 2012, 07:36
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2013 US NEWS MBA Rankings are out



  1. HBS
  2. Stanford
  3. Wharton
  4. MIT Sloan
  5. Kellogg
  6. Booth
  7. Haas
  8. CBS
  9. Tuck
  10. Yale
  11. Stern
  12. Fuqua
  13. Ross
  14. Darden
  15. UCLA
  16. Johnson
  17. McCombs
  18. Tepper
  19. Goizueta
  20. UNC
  21. Marshall
  22. Olin
  23. Kelley
  24. McDonough
  25. Fisher


https://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... a-rankings


Thanks for sharing, but it's a little misleading how you list the ranks. For schools that are tied on the US News rankings, US news shows them in alphabetical order, whearas you rank them differently. For example Kellogg and Booth are not 5 and 6 but are tied at 4 with MIT. Similarly, you left off 4 schools that are tied with Ohio State at 25.
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Re: 2013 US NEWS MBA Rankings are out [#permalink] New post  13 Mar 2012, 08:20
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jordanhendrix wrote:

2013 US NEWS MBA Rankings are out



  1. HBS
  2. Stanford
  3. Wharton
  4. MIT Sloan
  5. Kellogg
  6. Booth
  7. Haas
  8. CBS
  9. Tuck
  10. Yale
  11. Stern
  12. Fuqua
  13. Ross
  14. Darden
  15. UCLA
  16. Johnson
  17. McCombs
  18. Tepper
  19. Goizueta
  20. UNC
  21. Marshall
  22. Olin
  23. Kelley
  24. McDonough
  25. Fisher


https://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... a-rankings


Thanks for sharing, but it's a little misleading how you list the ranks. For schools that are tied on the US News rankings, US news shows them in alphabetical order, whearas you rank them differently. For example Kellogg and Booth are not 5 and 6 but are tied at 4 with MIT. Similarly, you left off 4 schools that are tied with Ohio State at 25.


Same as Stanford and Harvard..., tied at 1.
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New 2013 US News Rankings [#permalink] New post  Updated on: 14 Mar 2012, 06:26
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I have updated this post to include an updated version of Woggy987's spreadsheet from below with the top 50 schools from US News for 2013 with all the data.
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Originally posted by Gern47 on 13 Mar 2012, 18:38.
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Re: 2013 US NEWS MBA Rankings are out [#permalink] New post  13 Mar 2012, 18:45
do people think HBS is the best b-school because its ranked #1, or is HBS ranked #1 because people think its the best b-school? /raptormeme
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Re: 2013 US NEWS MBA Rankings are out [#permalink] New post  13 Mar 2012, 18:48
The differences between b-schools are so small, any shift is pretty much statistical variation. The heavy emphasis on reputation ranking, pretty much ensure a lock up top, where there’s the most visibility.

I wonder how many people make school choices based on these insignificant differences. ::sigh::
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Re: New 2013 US News Rankings [#permalink] New post  13 Mar 2012, 18:59
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thanks for posting. I put everything in a formatted spreadsheet (attached) for easy reading :)
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Re: New 2013 US News Rankings [#permalink] New post  13 Mar 2012, 20:00
Is it possible to get those stats for the next 25 schools at all? I would like the stats for schools in the 26-50 range. Thanks in advance!
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Re: New 2013 US News Rankings [#permalink] New post  14 Mar 2012, 05:11
woggy987 wrote:
thanks for posting. I put everything in a formatted spreadsheet (attached) for easy reading :)



Thanks for doing this, I wasn't sure if we could post spreadsheets, relatively new to the forum. I saw the new top 25 was already posted, but without the numbers behind it which I think is the most interesting part. Glad to see the employment numbers, salaries and most importantly, the admissions rates, all going up!
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Re: New 2013 US News Rankings [#permalink] New post  14 Mar 2012, 11:53
jksung5295 wrote:
Is it possible to get those stats for the next 25 schools at all? I would like the stats for schools in the 26-50 range. Thanks in advance!



The spreadsheet in my above post has been updated to include the 26-50 schools as well.

As mentioned before, clearly US News has quite a few ties, and they just happen to be around certain points in the rankings. They force more schools into "top" groups by having ties at the top of ranges. There are 2 #1 schools, 6 top 5 schools, and worst, 29 schools that can claim the "top 25" ranking. I think its clear they are bowing to pressure from the schools, and are giving them some help for their marketing materials. A cop out at best, and seriously hurts their credibility.
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Re: 2013 US NEWS MBA Rankings are out [#permalink] New post  14 Mar 2012, 12:15
BAMBAMBAM wrote:
do people think HBS is the best b-school because its ranked #1, or is HBS ranked #1 because people think its the best b-school? /raptormeme


Indeed. It reminds a friend of mine that used to say that he went to HBS just to do not have to spend the rest of his life explaining why he didn't go to Harvard for his MBA.
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Re: 2013 US NEWS MBA Rankings are out [#permalink] New post  15 Mar 2012, 11:43
Is the salary base + signing bonus?
IE would the total be more than that, with year end bonus, performance bonus, stock?
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Re: 2013 US NEWS MBA Rankings are out [#permalink] New post  15 Mar 2012, 12:12
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Is the salary base + signing bonus?
IE would the total be more than that, with year end bonus, performance bonus, stock?



It says "Average Starting Salary and Bonus" in the grid, and does not define it further as far as I can see. My understanding, at least with the other salary data from some other rankings (the economist I believe), is that the figure includes base salary and bonus, but not stock options.
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