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Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate?

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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   25 Nov 2011, 02:42
Absolutely, I agree. By the way, does anyone know if the extra rec should answer the same recommender questions as the first two, or is it possible to draft it as a general LOR?
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   03 Dec 2011, 00:21
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The questions is how many recommenders you can register in the online application. if you can only register 2, how will the third recommender get the questions?
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   11 Dec 2011, 00:16
Good question... I guess he can't since the applicant can't see the recommendation.
Unless the school publishes the questions on the website, the third recommender will not have the questions, and he can only write a general letter.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   24 Dec 2011, 02:36
A general LOR is not a bad idea, and if you can ask your recommender to make it look like he initiated it that's even better. Also, the letter can generally address some of the tipical recommender questions, like strengths and weaknesses, the applicant's managerial skills and potential for success.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   03 Jan 2012, 02:27
Right, since recommender questions are usually similar in most schools, so the general LOR can address the main aspects of the candidate.
The problem with an extra rec is that it can not always be submitted throught the online application. Some schools allow it to be sent by email, but what about the rest? any ideas?
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   12 Jan 2012, 05:19
They actually address this issue in a separate page, see here:
https://www.vocaz.com/emails/emailExtraRecs.htm
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   23 Jan 2012, 07:22
Leo24 wrote:
They actually address this issue in a separate page, see here:
https://www.vocaz.com/emails/emailExtraRecs.htm


Thanks for the link.
So they specifically say regarding the extra rec:

"If you send the extra recommendation in hard copy, and if you didn't see the actual letter that the recommender sent (while providing the recommender with a draft/example, you are not supposed to see what the recommender actually sent), ask the recommender to seal the envelope (for example, with a scotch tape or a sticker) and sign across the seal."

It makes sense to do this if the school doesn't allow you to register more than 2 recommenders in the online system.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   04 Feb 2012, 01:27
Regarding the extra rec, I don't think you should overflow the admission committee with too many materials, they already have a lot to read. Maybe wait with it until you are waitlisted, and then the extra rec might be more useful.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   13 Feb 2012, 23:36
Great tip, I agree - too much materials can actually work against you.
We have to carefully stick to the school instructions and be very smart about any unusual step. Same goes for the optional essay, you should write it only if you have something important to add.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   14 Feb 2012, 00:30
My suggestion would be that you start applying early to the your desired schools.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   03 Mar 2012, 10:39
What do you guys think about the Asian MBA programs? What about their admission chances comparing to the US b-schools? I saw some Asian schools like HKUST and IIMA ranked very high in the latest FT rankings, and I wonder if it's hard to get in…
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   11 Mar 2012, 13:38
Nobody has anything to say about the leading Asian MBA programs?
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   11 Mar 2012, 16:03
I got an invite from a school and there was a 10 point difference. This tool is BS and made to scare people into buying their product.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   28 Mar 2012, 23:35
Did you mean you got interview invite or admission offer? what was your score and which school if I may ask?
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   06 Apr 2012, 01:50
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What do you guys think about the Asian MBA programs? What about their admission chances comparing to the US b-schools? I saw some Asian schools like HKUST and IIMA ranked very high in the latest FT rankings, and I wonder if it's hard to get in…


I'm not sure regarding the admission chances to Asian programs, but you can check their websites for class profile and compare it with profiles of US programs to get some perspective.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   06 Apr 2012, 18:07
I'm a lurker on this forum, but couldn't help responding to this post.

I was asked to use Vocaz tool about a year ago, when I was a newbie and knew little to nothing about application process. The output showed that my profile wasn't good enough even for regional schools and as stupid as it sounds, it did bring my confidence down (if only for a week). This year, I've admission offers from two elite schools.
Vocaz tool is extremely misleading and unreliable. I'd highly recommend against using it or even 'checking it out'.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   20 Apr 2012, 01:40
Congratulations on your admission!
Could you share what was the prediction/score you got? and what helped you gain admission? were there elements on your profile which the tool didn't take into consideration?
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   28 Apr 2012, 23:52
Speaking of elements which the tool didn't take into consideration, I think the interview is a big factor. It is not right to look at this like the application can get you admitted instantly, you have to be good enough to get invited to an interview, and then do well on the interview which is mainly up to you!
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   16 May 2012, 10:24
I agree, it's an important element but a tough one to score... anyway, I think most candidates invited to an interview are eventually admitted. And it's not entirely true that the interview is completely up to you, you can do some preparation and practice.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post   24 May 2012, 08:40
Does anyone understand their complicated formula for calculating Harvard score adjustment?
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