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Two numbers when divided by a divisor leave reminders of 248 and 372 respectively. The reminder obtained when the sum of the numbers is divided by the same divisor is 68. Find the divisor.
A) 276 B) 552 C) 414 D 1104 E) 2202


Thanks kostyan5. My approach is similar to that of urs.
This is how i did it.
Let the 2 numbers be X and Y; Let D= Divisor
X = D*N+248 , N = Quotient got when X is divided by divisor R
Y = D*K+372 , K = Quotient got when Y is divided by divisor R

X+Y = (D*N+248) + (D*K+372)
= D(N+K)+620
= D(N+K+552/D)+68
As N+K+552/D must be an integer, D must be a factor of 552.
As any divisor is greater than the reminder, D>372
So D=552
Answe B
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Fun question.

Say the two numbers are x and y, and divisor is a.

x divided by a leaves a remainder of 248. This means that x = a*N + 248, where N is the integer result of the division.
y divided by a leaves a remainder of 372. This means that x = a*K + 372, where K is the integer result of the division.

x+y divided by a leaves a remainder of 68. This means that x = a*M + 68, where M is the integer result of the division.

From definitions above:

x+y = (a*N + 248) + (a*K + 372) = a*(N+K) + 620.

a*(N+K) + 620 = a*M + 68
552 = a*(M-N-K)

We know that M, N, and K are integers and that a must be at least 373 (to leave a 372 remainder). The only possible value for (M-N-K) is 1.

Therefore, a = 552. B.


ok, "a" must be at least 373, but then why not 414 instead of 552? Thanks!
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kostyan5 wrote:
Fun question.

Say the two numbers are x and y, and divisor is a.

x divided by a leaves a remainder of 248. This means that x = a*N + 248, where N is the integer result of the division.
y divided by a leaves a remainder of 372. This means that x = a*K + 372, where K is the integer result of the division.

x+y divided by a leaves a remainder of 68. This means that x = a*M + 68, where M is the integer result of the division.

From definitions above:

x+y = (a*N + 248) + (a*K + 372) = a*(N+K) + 620.

a*(N+K) + 620 = a*M + 68
552 = a*(M-N-K)

We know that M, N, and K are integers and that a must be at least 373 (to leave a 372 remainder). The only possible value for (M-N-K) is 1.

Therefore, a = 552. B.


ok, "a" must be at least 373, but then why not 414 instead of 552? Thanks!


If we follow kostyan5's way we get 552=a*(M-N-K) --> (M-N-K)=integer=552/a, no other value from the answer choices will yield an integer for this expression except 552 and 276, and as a>372 then a=552.

Hope it's clear.
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Once we know that a=552/ (M-N-K),

Can we say that a < or = 552.
And since 372 is one of the remainders (eliminates A. 276) the only possibility is 552 itself.
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kostyan5 wrote:
Fun question.

Say the two numbers are x and y, and divisor is a.

x divided by a leaves a remainder of 248. This means that x = a*N + 248, where N is the integer result of the division.
y divided by a leaves a remainder of 372. This means that x = a*K + 372, where K is the integer result of the division.

x+y divided by a leaves a remainder of 68. This means that x = a*M + 68, where M is the integer result of the division.

From definitions above:

x+y = (a*N + 248) + (a*K + 372) = a*(N+K) + 620.

a*(N+K) + 620 = a*M + 68
552 = a*(M-N-K)

We know that M, N, and K are integers and that a must be at least 373 (to leave a 372 remainder). The only possible value for (M-N-K) is 1.

Therefore, a = 552. B.


Why did you decide the a must be at least 373 and not 248? That's the other remainder.
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kostyan5 wrote:
Fun question.

Say the two numbers are x and y, and divisor is a.

x divided by a leaves a remainder of 248. This means that x = a*N + 248, where N is the integer result of the division.
y divided by a leaves a remainder of 372. This means that x = a*K + 372, where K is the integer result of the division.

x+y divided by a leaves a remainder of 68. This means that x = a*M + 68, where M is the integer result of the division.

From definitions above:

x+y = (a*N + 248) + (a*K + 372) = a*(N+K) + 620.

a*(N+K) + 620 = a*M + 68
552 = a*(M-N-K)

We know that M, N, and K are integers and that a must be at least 373 (to leave a 372 remainder). The only possible value for (M-N-K) is 1.

Therefore, a = 552. B.


Why did you decide the a must be at least 373 and not 248? That's the other remainder.


Positive integer \(a\) divided by positive integer \(d\) yields a reminder of \(r\) can always be expressed as \(a=qd+r\), where \(q\) is called a quotient and \(r\) is called a remainder, note here that \(0\leq{r}<d\) (remainder is non-negative integer and always less than divisor).

So, the divisor mus be greater than both remainders, which means that a>372.

Also check this: two-numbers-when-divided-by-a-divisor-leave-reminders-of-123645.html#p1036863

Hope it helps.
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cleetus wrote:
Two numbers when divided by a divisor leave reminders of 248 and 372 respectively. The reminder obtained when the sum of the numbers is divided by the same divisor is 68. Find the divisor.

A. 276
B. 552
C. 414
D. 1104
E. 2202


Easy, why 68 if the sum of the remainders is 248+372=620?
Cause the divisor is eating the other part.
Then the divisor is 620-68=552

Answer is A
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cleetus wrote:
Two numbers when divided by a divisor leave reminders of 248 and 372 respectively. The reminder obtained when the sum of the numbers is divided by the same divisor is 68. Find the divisor.

A. 276
B. 552
C. 414
D. 1104
E. 2202


Easy, why 68 if the sum of the remainders is 248+372=620?
Cause the divisor is eating the other part.
Then the divisor is 620-68=552

Answer is A
Cheers!
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you mean B !!. Answer given is correct but option marked is incorrect. This was the smartest approach of the lot and I used the same..

If 620 is equating to 68 , what was the remaining amount ( 620 - 68). This added one unit to divisor
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friends... I have a question ...
Why (M-N-K) has to be one....
In other words why the answer is 552 and not 1104...
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hi....i did this question as follows:

x: dp + 248
y: dq + 372
x+y: dr + 68

setting p,q,r as 1, I get

2d + 620 equals d + 68

solving for d i get -552

Note: i have attempted similar questions like and just ignored the negative sign.

Am wondering if you can pin point a pitfall in this approach?

and

please tell me why the answers are correct..:)

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248+372=620

620-68=552( answer )

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