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I am wrong. Sorry guys. Thanks Karishma.
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The questions becomes y-1[y+3 - y+2)] = r(y-1).

r=5. So, can not calculate the value of Y from both 1 and 2.
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Re: If (y + 3)(y - 1) - (y - 2)(y - 1) = r(y - 1), what is the value of y? [#permalink]
Rephrasing the stem provides us:

(y-1)[y+3-y+2] = r(y-1)
(y-1)5 = r(y-1)
(y-1)(5-r) = 0
y = 1 or r = 5

1. r = +/- 5, if r = -5, y = 1 and if r = 5, y = anything. Insuff.
2. r = 5, which means y = anything. Insuff.

Combined, only thing common is r = 5, which still provides y = anything. Insuff.

E.
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Re: If (y + 3)(y - 1) - (y - 2)(y - 1) = r(y - 1), what is the value of y? [#permalink]
Guys I'm bit lost here.


(y-1)[y+3-y+2] = r(y-1)
(y-1)5 = r(y-1)

(y-1) is common here

so 5= r

which is what stmt 2 tells us.

I think i should be B.
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Guys I'm bit lost here.


(y-1)[y+3-y+2] = r(y-1)
(y-1)5 = r(y-1)

(y-1) is common here

so 5= r

which is what stmt 2 tells us.

I think i should be B.


Notice that we are asked to find the value of y not r. Also, I guess you reduced (y-1)5 = r(y-1) by y-1 which cannot be done here.

Never reduce an equation by a variable (or expression with a variable), if you are not certain that the variable (or the expression with a variable) doesn't equal to zero. We can not divide by zero.

So, if you divide (reduce) (y-1)5 = r(y-1) by y-1, you assume, with no ground for it, that y-1 does not equal to zero thus exclude a possible solution (notice that both y=1 AND r=5 satisfy the equation).

Hope it's clear.

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If \((y+3)(y-1)-(y-2)(y-1)=r(y-1)\), what is the value of y?

\((y+3)(y-1) - (y-2)(y-1) - r(y-1) = 0\);

\((y-1)[(y+3) -(y-2) - r] = 0\);

\((y-1)(5 - r) = 0\);

\(y=1\) or/and \(r=5\).


(1) \(r^2=25\) --> \(r=5\) or \(r=-5\). Not sufficient.

(2) \(r=5\) --> y may or may not be 1. Not sufficient.


(1)+(2) The same here: we have that r=5 but y still may or may not be 1. Not sufficient.


Answer: E.
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Hi Buneul, has my logic actually worked here?
correct me if i am wrong...
Jasonammex wrote:
If (y+3)(y-1)-(y-2)(y-1)=r(y-1), what is the value of y?

(1) r^2=25
(2) r=5


From the given statement:
(y-1)[Y+3-y+2]=r(y-1)
Divide both sides by (y-1)

y+3-y+2=r
r=5

Here I thought that in the given statement when Y does not exist it is impossible to calculate the value of Y.
Thus both statements are not sufficient.
Ans: E
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Hi Buneul, has my logic actually worked here?
correct me if i am wrong...
Jasonammex wrote:
If (y+3)(y-1)-(y-2)(y-1)=r(y-1), what is the value of y?

(1) r^2=25
(2) r=5


From the given statement:
(y-1)[Y+3-y+2]=r(y-1)
Divide both sides by (y-1)

y+3-y+2=r
r=5

Here I thought that in the given statement when Y does not exist it is impossible to calculate the value of Y.
Thus both statements are not sufficient.
Ans: E


Unfortunately that's not correct. Refer to my post above: if-y-3-y-1-y-2-y-1-r-y-1-what-is-the-value-of-y-119561.html#p1224280

Never reduce an equation by a variable (or expression with a variable), if you are not certain that the variable (or the expression with a variable) doesn't equal to zero. We can not divide by zero.

So, if you divide (reduce) (y-1)5 = r(y-1) by y-1, you assume, with no ground for it, that y-1 does not equal to zero thus exclude a possible solution (notice that both y=1 AND r=5 satisfy the equation).
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Oops by bad, Thanks Bunuel.
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Jasonammex wrote:
If (y+3)(y-1)-(y-2)(y-1)=r(y-1), what is the value of y?

(1) r^2=25
(2) r=5


Given information=
(y+3)(y-1)-(y-2)(y-1)=r(y-1)

Question- value of y?

Inference from given information-

(y+3)(y-1)-(y-2)(y-1)=r(y-1)
(y+3)- (y-2)= r (y-1) is common at both the sides of the equation.
y+3-y+2=r
r=5
(y is cancelling out at both sides of equation, so most likely we need one of the statement to produce value of y )

(1) r^2=25
It does not give us a solution for y

(2) r=5
It does not give us a solution for y

E is the answer
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