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Harvard Business School is probably the most influential business school in the world and almost certainly the best known by the general public. HBS has played an important role (either directly or as an inspiration) in the histories of many other business schools including IMD, INSEAD, Western Ontario, and IESE. We collectively owe a considerable debt to HBS for the development of the case method and for making business an academic subject worthy of respect.

However, it is important to restrain the urge of some MBA applicants to engage in hero worship of HBS. HBS is an important institution but a degree from HBS is neither necessary nor sufficient to become a CEO at major firm, a successful entrepreneur, or an effective manager.

I once heard HBS described as the WalMart of business schools- everyone has heard of it, it is ultracompetitive, and its practices are extremely influential but I am not so sure I would want to do all of my shopping there. The reader is welcome to judge for herself if this analogy is accurate.


FT 2005 ranks Harvard as tied with Penn for #1 worldwide.

EIU 2004 ranks Harvard #4, just above IMD and Chicago GSB, and just below Dartmouth.

Harvard's best showing on BW has been #2 and its worst has been #5 (three times). Northwestern has enjoyed a higher ranking than Harvard every time.

https://www.hbs.edu/mba/hbsadvantage/

https://www.hbs.edu/mba/admissions/apply.html

Originally posted by Hjort on 23 Jan 2005, 15:11.
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[#permalink] New post   25 Jan 2005, 13:24
c. 1996 Harvard enjoyed the second highest gross increment among the ultra elite schools (starting pay - preMBA pay). However, its gross ratio was the fifth highest among the ultraelites.

c. 2002 Harvard had the second highest gross increment (shared with three other schools) and had the second lowest gross ratio of the ultra elites.
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Employment Stats

https://www.hbs.edu/mba/yourcareer/statistics.html

https://www.hbs.edu/mba/recruiting/data/ ... areer.html

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[#permalink] New post   11 Feb 2005, 23:36
Student Article in Response to WSJ Rankings

https://www.harbus.org/news/2003/09/29/N ... 7124.shtml
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[#permalink] New post   13 Feb 2005, 22:02
Harvard is often perceived to be the "most selective" business school but determining which school is most selective is more difficult than it might appear at first glance.

Harvard tends to be one of the most selective students in the world when it comes to the percentage of students accepted. However, Stanford tends to have an even lower acceptance rate. Other schools, such as Columbia have very similar rates. Further, Harvard accepts some 1000 students every year, this is far more students than many students in the Elite and Trans elite clusters such as Dartmouth, UVA, or USC accept.

Harvard tends to have one of the highest yields of any business school. However, some 100+ students turn down Harvard each year- thus more students reject offers from HBS than reject offers from other schools such as Stanford.
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[#permalink] New post   28 Feb 2005, 19:40
Some interesting stats on HBS over the years:

https://www.hbs.edu/about/mba.html
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[#permalink] New post   10 Mar 2005, 17:19
Executive Bios

Graduates of Harvard are the CEOs of a truly impressive list of corporations as shown below. The list of CEOs produced by Harvard Law alone would put the CEO list of most business schools to shame.

CEOs: General Motors, Cardinal Health, General Electric, Merrill Lynch, Goldman Sachs, American Express (Law), Merck, Bank One, Sara Lee, 3M, Amerada Hess, Tenet Healthcare, Staples, Toys R Us, Pepsi Bottling, Colgate-Palmolive, AES, Schering-Plough, Boise Cascade, Sempra Energy, T Rowe Price, Meredith, Novell, Teradyne, MBIA, Zions Bancorp, Tiffany & Co., eBay, Transocean, Corning, Boston Scientific, Sealed Air, Starwood Hotels, Starbucks, Liz Claiborne, Black & Decker, WW Grainger, Anadarko, Danaher, State Street, KeyCorp, Cummins, Dillards, CSX, JP Morgan, Fannie Mae (Law), Viacom (Law), Moody's (Law), AIMCO (Law), Pitney Bowes (Law)

https://www.citigroup.com/citigroup/prof ... /index.htm

https://www.altera.com/corporate/about_u ... rship.html

https://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zht ... rol-govBio

https://ir.moodys.com/ireye/ir_site.zhtm ... m_id=46501
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[#permalink] New post   28 Apr 2005, 17:03
Value Considerations

Est Total Outlay at List Price: 128k

https://www.hbs.edu/mba/admissions/costsummary.html

FT2005 Value For Money: #75, #3 among the ultraelites
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[#permalink] New post   15 Dec 2005, 18:32
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Just about everyone agrees that an applicant should never turn in a less-than-stellar application just to meet a deadline. For clients who are considering a third- or fourth-round application, Abraham urges them to do their homework. If an applicant is rejected by Harvard Business School or INSEAD, two schools that are notoriously hard on reapplicants, then they may have missed their only opportunity, says Abraham.


^ Is this true?

My original plan was to apply to a program like Harvard after 3 yrs of experience, and then I would re-apply as my experience increased. However, this makes it seem like it is a one shot deal.
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Just about everyone agrees that an applicant should never turn in a less-than-stellar application just to meet a deadline. For clients who are considering a third- or fourth-round application, Abraham urges them to do their homework. If an applicant is rejected by Harvard Business School or INSEAD, two schools that are notoriously hard on reapplicants, then they may have missed their only opportunity, says Abraham.


^ Is this true?

My original plan was to apply to a program like Harvard after 3 yrs of experience, and then I would re-apply as my experience increased. However, this makes it seem like it is a one shot deal.


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[#permalink] New post   12 Jan 2006, 19:30
An application after three years for a "fast track" candidate seems reasonable to me. I agree, of course, with the basic logic that it makes little sense to send in a rushed application to HBS or virtually any other top school.
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[#permalink] New post   12 Jan 2006, 19:44
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An application after three years for a "fast track" candidate seems reasonable to me. I agree, of course, with the basic logic that it makes little sense to send in a rushed application to HBS or virtually any other top school.


Thanks Hjort. I figured 3 yrs was the appropriate timing.
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[#permalink] New post   16 Jan 2006, 21:26
SOrry for all of the questions, BUT

Regarding work experience, what number does everyone use as the indicator:

1. The work experience completed prior to applying

OR

2. The work experience completed when the applicant enters the MBA program


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[#permalink] New post   16 Jan 2006, 23:26
The same principle should be used for years of experience as for other particulars (age, years of education, number of children, etc).

I would use the numbers at the point of application.
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[#permalink] New post   18 Jan 2006, 17:08
Hjort, I know its not the right post in this thread, but are you going to be adding non-US schools or creating a seperate thread for them vis a vis the groups of ultra elites, elites, trans elites you have created for US schools. It would be a great addendum to the excellent work you have done.
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[#permalink] New post   18 Jan 2006, 20:03
I've wanted to put together a collection of "Top Cluster Europe" schools for some time now. Hopefully I can get to this soon.
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[#permalink] New post   19 Jan 2006, 21:56
hey u forgot about Canada! i believe in the FT rankings (since it takes into a lot of factors into consideration) and if i remember right, Toronto and York were right up there in the top 25...so maybe you could do something on the lines of BW (their international top 10).
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[#permalink] New post   20 Jan 2006, 18:59
I think the most logical pattern would be to include the programs of Canada with their natural counterparts in the North American economy. However, candidates still seem to view US and Canada schools as serving two different markets.
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[#permalink] New post   22 Jan 2006, 15:32
yep thats a swell idea..it would make sense that you include the Canadian schools in the US threads you have already created
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[#permalink] New post   02 Feb 2006, 07:50
are there any stats available for how many <24 yrs old students HBS admitted last year..or maybe a resumebook available somewhere ?
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