Last visit was: 25 Apr 2024, 15:53 It is currently 25 Apr 2024, 15:53

Close
GMAT Club Daily Prep
Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History
Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.
Close
Request Expert Reply
Confirm Cancel
SORT BY:
Date
Tags:
Show Tags
Hide Tags
User avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 20 Nov 2009
Posts: 97
Own Kudos [?]: 912 [2]
Given Kudos: 64
 Q46  V36 GMAT 2: 690  Q44  V40 GMAT 3: 690  Q45  V40
Send PM
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 92915
Own Kudos [?]: 619022 [4]
Given Kudos: 81595
Send PM
avatar
Intern
Intern
Joined: 15 Aug 2010
Posts: 11
Own Kudos [?]: 3 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 92915
Own Kudos [?]: 619022 [1]
Given Kudos: 81595
Send PM
Re: If m and n are positive integers and mn = p + 1, is m + n = p ? [#permalink]
1
Kudos
Expert Reply
sikalvag wrote:
Hi,
I dont know whether my approach is correct or wrong but I suspect anser is C.
From St1: i know they are prime numbers
and from St2: i get P as odd number -
mn = p + 1 from here, in order to p+1 to be even out of m and n one should be 2.
so i get m= (p+1)/2 (if n=2).
=> m+n =p => (p+1)/2 + 2 = p => defenitly not equal to P.

Please let me know if my approach was wrong.

Thanks


OA is given in the first post, under the spoiler and it's E.

In my post above there are 2 cases given satisfying the stem and both statements and giving different answers to the question, thus proving that answer is E:
If \(m=n=2\), then \(p=3=odd\) and the answer is NO, as \(m+n=2+2=4\neq{p=3}\);
If \(m=2\) and \(n=3\) then \(p=5=odd\) and the answer is YES, as \(m+n=2+3=p=5\).

Also why "(p+1)/2 + 2 = p => defenitely not equal to P" (the red part)? If you solve it for \(p\) you'll get \(p=5\) so \(n=2\) and \(m=3\).

Hope it helps.
User avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 18 Aug 2009
Posts: 220
Own Kudos [?]: 333 [0]
Given Kudos: 16
Concentration: Accounting
Schools:UT at Austin, Indiana State University, UC at Berkeley
 Q47  V34 GMAT 2: 660  Q46  V35 GMAT 3: 700  Q49  V36
GPA: 3.8
WE 1: 5.5
WE 2: 5.5
WE 3: 6.0
Send PM
Re: If m and n are positive integers and mn = p + 1, is m + n = p ? [#permalink]
If m and n are positive integers and mn = p + 1, is m + n = p ?

S1: Both m and n are prime numbers.
S2: p + 1 and m are both even

A. S1 sf
B S2 sf
C both A and B together sf
D. Each sf
E. Neither sf nor together sf
avatar
Intern
Intern
Joined: 02 Feb 2011
Posts: 14
Own Kudos [?]: [0]
Given Kudos: 11
GPA: 3.6
WE 1: Nonprofit
WE 2: Government
Send PM
Re: If m and n are positive integers and mn = p + 1, is m + n = p ? [#permalink]
Test 1: M(2), N(3) P(5)

Meets criteria

Test 2: M(2), N(7) P(13)

Fails criteria

All criteria fail to meet test 2

Therefore (E)
User avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Posts: 81
Own Kudos [?]: 1005 [0]
Given Kudos: 6
Send PM
Re: If m and n are positive integers and mn = p + 1, is m + n = p ? [#permalink]
Let us analyze what the question is asking prior to looking at the statements given. We know that:

\(mn = p + 1\)

We are asked does:

\(m + n = p?\)

Using what we know, we can rearrange this question as follows:

\(m + n = p?\)

\(m + n = mn - 1?\)

\(mn - m = n + 1?\)

\(m(n-1) = (n + 1)?\)

\(m = \frac{n+1}{n-1}?\)

Since we know that m and n are both positive integers, n can not be greater than 3, otherwise m will result in a value between 1 and 2. We also n can not be 1. Therefore, this leaves two distinct possibilities:

\((m,n) = (2,3),(3,2)\)

Now let's move on to solving the question knowing these conditions.

Statement 1: Both m and n are prime numbers.

2 and 3 are both prime numbers, but so are 11 and 17. We need to know specifically that m and n are 2 and 3.

Therefore, not sufficient.

Statement 2: p + 1 and m are both even.

All this really tells us is that m is even. Given the initial condition that mn = p + 1, if either m or n are given to be even, it follows that p + 1 must be even as well. Hence, the distinct subset of (2,3) still exists, as well as various other possibilities of an even number and any other number.

Therefore, not sufficient.

Both Statements Together

We know that m and n are prime numbers, and that m is even. So m must be 2. Unfortunately, n is only defined to be a prime number. This could be 3 (in which case the statement is satisfied), but it could be any other prime number as well.

Therefore, not sufficient.

Answer: E
User avatar
Retired Moderator
Joined: 20 Dec 2010
Posts: 1114
Own Kudos [?]: 4702 [0]
Given Kudos: 376
Send PM
Re: If m and n are positive integers and mn = p + 1, is m + n = p ? [#permalink]
It took me between 3 and 4 minutes to think and answer this: Solved it using numbers eventually.

If m and n are positive integers and mn = p + 1,

Q: m + n = p ?

1. Both m and n are prime numbers.
2. p + 1 is even.

mn = p + 1

So, p is one less than mn

1. Started with lowest prime numbers
m=2, n=2 -> mn = 4, p=3: m + n = 4; 4<>3. Ans: No
m=2, n=3 -> mn= 6, p=5: m + n = 5; 5=5. Ans: Yes
Not sufficient.

2. p + 1 is even
p is odd.

Used the same data set and disapproved:

m=2, n=2 -> mn = 4, p=3(odd): m + n = 4; 4<>3. Ans: No
m=2, n=3 -> mn= 6, p=5(odd): m + n = 5; 5=5. Ans: Yes
Not sufficient.

Together:
Same data set. Not sufficient.

Ans: E
User avatar
VP
VP
Joined: 06 Sep 2013
Posts: 1345
Own Kudos [?]: 2391 [0]
Given Kudos: 355
Concentration: Finance
Send PM
Re: If m and n are positive integers and mn = p + 1, is m + n = p ? [#permalink]
aiming4mba wrote:
If m and n are positive integers and mn = p + 1, is m + n = p ?
a. Both m and n are prime numbers.
b. p + 1 is even.


This boils down to

Is m+n = mn-1

Statement 1

m,n are prime numbers
Let's number pick.

Mind you. if m and n are 2 and 3 then yes
If m and 3 are 2 and 5 then no

Insuff

Statement 2

p+1 is even, then p is odd

We get is mn even?

Both together

mn could be even as well as odd depending on whether the number 2 is included as one of both

Hence answer is E

Cheers!
J :)
Senior Manager
Senior Manager
Joined: 15 Jan 2017
Posts: 259
Own Kudos [?]: 85 [0]
Given Kudos: 932
Send PM
Re: If m and n are positive integers and mn = p + 1, is m + n = p ? [#permalink]
If m and n are positive integers and mn = p + 1, is m + n = p ?
a. Both m and n are prime numbers.
m =2, n = 3; m = 3, n = 5...only (2)(3) = 5 + 1 suffices. (3)(5) = 14 +1; (2)(5) = 9 +1. Thus except, case 1 - but rest don't add up. So NOT SUFF.
b. p + 1 is even. No clue about m,n. Not Suff.

St 1 and 2: p +1 = even; m and n = both prime. Again only one case (2)(3) = 5 +1 works; rest don't - (2)(5) = 9 +1; (2)(13)= 26 (25 +1). So not sufficient. Ans E.
User avatar
Non-Human User
Joined: 09 Sep 2013
Posts: 32679
Own Kudos [?]: 822 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Re: If m and n are positive integers and mn = p + 1, is m + n = p ? [#permalink]
Hello from the GMAT Club BumpBot!

Thanks to another GMAT Club member, I have just discovered this valuable topic, yet it had no discussion for over a year. I am now bumping it up - doing my job. I think you may find it valuable (esp those replies with Kudos).

Want to see all other topics I dig out? Follow me (click follow button on profile). You will receive a summary of all topics I bump in your profile area as well as via email.
GMAT Club Bot
Re: If m and n are positive integers and mn = p + 1, is m + n = p ? [#permalink]
Moderator:
Math Expert
92915 posts

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group | Emoji artwork provided by EmojiOne