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Re: GMAT newbie: Subject Verb Agreement notes [#permalink]
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Hi Ravi,

About point no. 10 which is "None is singular or plural? – Not sure, better think of it as Plural", I would like to add that None is singular. The following sentence is correct
“None of the boys enjoys camping as he does.”
Also, No one is always singular.
“No one enjoys camping as much as he does.” - Correct
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None is used with either a plural count or non-count noun. It CANNOT be used with a single count noun. The verb form will depend on the noun used.

None of the girls have played soccer before. plural count noun = girls
None of the water has leaked into the basement. Non-count noun = water

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None is used with either a plural count or non-count noun. It CANNOT be used with a single count noun - correct
I never said it can be used with a single count noun. And even I have used it with plural count noun(boys).
Regarding the verb form which should be used with None, I have posted whatever I found in GMAT Flashcard - Snippet is as follows
“None, No one”
“None” should be singular, even when to your ear it
seems as though it should be plural.
CORRECT: “None of the boys enjoys camping as he does.”
“No one” is always singular.
CORRECT: “No one enjoys camping as much as he does.”


Could be wrong.....Would request other members to pitch in to clarify the same.
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(6) Three-quarters of the students represents a countable number.
(7) Three-quarters of the student body represents a lump sum, a singular entity

How do these compare to the rule on percents/fractions that says look in the prepositional phrase to find if its plural/single?

I'm not quite sure what these rules mean, can someone please explain?

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When a percentage or a part of something is mentioned with plural meaning the plural verb is used.
Examples: 1. 30% of Indian women are literate.
2. 50% of the class is absent.

Also, of the two sentences[(6) & (7)] posted by flgators519, (6) should read as
(6) Three-quarters of the students represent a countable number.

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Where does "Countable" vs "uncountable" subjects come into play?

I've heard some things like uncountable is always singular. Does this come into play with fractions and percents? Or do you always look to the subject for plural/singular?
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None is used with either a plural count or non-count noun. It CANNOT be used with a single count noun. The verb form will depend on the noun used.

None of the girls have played soccer before. plural count noun = girls
None of the water has leaked into the basement. Non-count noun = water

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Shouldn't first sentence be as following?

None of the girls has played soccer before = Not one has played soccer before.

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Re: GMAT newbie: Subject Verb Agreement notes [#permalink]
Pretty awesome stuff! Thanks for the help!
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The soccer example:

None of the girls have played soccer - girls is a plural count noun - hence u need to use have

Not one of the girls has played soccer - Not one is always singular.

No one among the girls has played soccer - No one is always singular.

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Re: GMAT newbie: Subject Verb Agreement notes [#permalink]
Example on "each"
Although it claims to delve into political issues, television can be superficial such as when each of the three major networks broadcast exactly the same statement from a political candidate.
(A) superficial such as when each of the three major networks -singular noun
(B) superficial, as can sometimes occur if all of the three major networks-plural noun
(C) superficial if the three major networks all-plural noun
(D) superficial whenever each of the three major networks-singular noun
(E) superficial, as when the three major networks each-plural noun


One of the factors
A higher interest rate is only one of the factors, albeit an important one, that keeps the housing market from spiraling out of control, like it did earlier in the decade.
a) that keeps the housing market from spiraling out of control, like it did earlier in the decade.
b) that keep the housing market from spiraling out of control, as it did earlier in the decade
c) that keeps the housing market from spiraling out of control, as it did earlier in the decade
d) that keep the housing market from spiraling out of control, like earlier in the decade
e) that keep the housing market from spiraling out of control, like it did earlier in the decade

one of the factors that + plural verb (that refers back to the closest noun)
one of the factors + singular verb
the one of the factors that + singular verb

Phrase/clause as a subject
The period when the great painted caves at Lascaux and Altamira were occupied by Upper Paleolithic people has been established by carbon-14 dating,but what is much more difficult to determine are the reason for their decoration,the use to which primitive people put the caves,and the meaning of the magnificently depicted animals.
(A) has been established by carbon-14 dating,but what is much more difficult to determine are - 'period' is singular and so we need singular 'has'. Also, 'reason' is singular and so we need 'is'
(B) has been established by carbon-14 dating,but what is much more difficult to determine is - 'period' is singular and so we need singular 'has'. Also, 'reason' is singular and so we need 'is'
(C) have been established by carbon-14 dating,but what is much more difficult to determine is
(D) have been established by carbon-14 dating,but what is much more difficult to determine are
(E) are established by carbon-14 dating,but that which is much more difficult to determine is
“what is much more difficult to determine” is a subject phrase, so it takes a singular verb (is).
-ing subject also takes singular verb
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19) "many" goes with plural verb? Can someone verify this?
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(14) Collective nouns: depends on the usage. Ex: team, staff
Usage: The staff is in meeting,
The staff are in disagreement about the findings.

I think we have a point here to discuss : Collectively noun almost takes singular form of verb.

The staff is in meeting, staff is correct
The staffs are in disagreement about the findings. staffs are is correct ( not staff are)
So a small correction to your point.

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Re: GMAT newbie: Subject Verb Agreement notes [#permalink]
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(14) Collective nouns: depends on the usage. Ex: team, staff
Usage: The staff is in meeting,
The staff are in disagreement about the findings.

I think we have a point here to discuss : Collectively noun almost takes singular form of verb.

The staff is in meeting, staff is correct
The staffs are in disagreement about the findings. staffs are is correct ( not staff are)
So a small correction to your point.

Anyhow thanks for those points

"Staffs" is not a word (when used in relation to the staff of a company). So "The staff are in disagreement..." is correct.
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