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Patience Lovell Wright, whose travelling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tussaud's work by 30 years, became well known as much because of having an eccentirc personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.

A)well known as much because of having an eccentirc personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
B) well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures
C)well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of poular public figure
D)as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
E) as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
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As much as X as Y
As X as Y

Does both have the same meaning.????

Hi AMITAGARWAL2

As far as I know, you're comparing two structures:
(1) adjective as X as Y

The difference between the two is the position of the adjective. If we use grammars correctly, the meanings of two structures are the same. A major of problem of this structure is parallelism.

For example:
(1) Peter is attractive as for his good looking face as for his sport abilities.
(2) Peter is as attractive for his good looking face as [attractive] for his sport abilities.

Two sentences have the same meaning.

Back to the question, you can see option B and E for details.
B: ....well known as much for X as for Y.
E: ....as well known for X as [well known] for Y.

Technically, if X and Y are parallel, there is no problem. Option, B, nonetheless, is wrong because "for having ..." and "for her skillful..." are not grammatically parallel. The correct structure should be "for having X as for having Y".

Only option E, which say Lovell Wright became well known for two reasons: "her eccentric personality" and "her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures" is correct.

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Patience Lovell Wright, whose travelling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tussaud's work by 30 years, became well known as much because of having an eccentirc personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.

A)well known as much because of having an eccentirc personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
B) well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures
C)well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of poular public figure
D)as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
E) as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.

Parallelism question based on the meaning Lovell wright was well known for two reasons:

1) she had an eccentric personality
2) she skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax

E is best!
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arj_singh1976 wrote:
Patience Lovell Wright, whose travelling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tussaud's work by 30 years, became well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.

(A) well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
(B) well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures
(C) well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of poular public figure
(D) as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
(E) as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.

Mike,
For the above question in the link, choice E is the correct answer. However, I have a question regarding choice A. I read all responses mentioning A is not parallel. But my question is in Choice A,
"because of" - preposition
"having eccentric personality" - gerund phrase
similarly
"for" - preposition
"having ....." - gerund phrase
Since both are followed by "preposition & gerund phrase", why is A not parallel? I really appreciate your explanation.
Thanks,

This is a subtle issue about parallelism. When prepositional phrases are in parallel, then as a general rule (not 100%, but a general rule), parallelism requires the same preposition. Especially if the parallelism is a comparison of two elements, so that we are striving to show the contrast of these two elements as clearly as possible, then parallelism almost always demands the same preposition. Think about the poor general reader of this sentence. This reader starts finding out about Ms. Wright, and when the reader gets to the words "became as well known for ...", the poor reader has to keep track of the fact that (1) thing #1, immediately after those words, will be something Ms. Wright was known for; (2) a some point latter in the sentence, there will be a thing #2, that is also something Ms. Wright was known for; (3) the sentence is saying that Ms. Wright was known for thing #1 and thing #2 equally well. That's a ton of logical connections all at once! If we are demanding that much of the reader, at the very least, we want to make it crystal clear where thing #1 ends and thing #2 begins, and we do that by using the exact same preposition as a marker of the transition.

In shorter sentences, in which the structure is not complicated, we might use two different prepositions, but in a longer sentence such as this, we need to repeat the same preposition for clarity.

Does all this make sense?
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crazykaushik wrote:
Can I request some expert to explain this question? The OA is "E" which uses the structure "as X as Y", but is no way we have parallel component in the place of "X" and "Y". If we break it into two separate sentence without the parallel element "as...as...", then the two sentences doesn't stand correct separately. On the other hand the option "B" has "as much X as Y" structure and the two sides of parallel element are parallel in construction. The option B stands correct if we break the sentence in two separate sentence. Please suggest. Any response is appreciated.

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I'm happy to respond.

What you are asking touches on the very tricky idea of dropping common words in parallel. See this blog article:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/dropping- ... -the-gmat/

Here's version (E):
Patience Lowell Wright, whose travelling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tussaud's work by 30 years, became as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
Here' the parallelism with the omitted words:
Patience Lowell Wright, whose travelling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tussaud's work by 30 years, became
//as well known for her eccentric personality
//as [well known] for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
You see, the second occurrence of "well known" is implied, but if we actually stated it, the sentence would sound awkward and redundant.

The GMAT loves this grammatical structure, because if you don't recognize what's missing, the sentence will look wrong. It's all about being mindful of what's not there!

Does all this make sense?
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Can I request some expert to explain this question? The OA is "E" which uses the structure "as X as Y", but is no way we have parallel component in the place of "X" and "Y". If we break it into two separate sentence without the parallel element "as...as...", then the two sentences doesn't stand correct separately. On the other hand the option "B" has "as much X as Y" structure and the two sides of parallel element are parallel in construction. The option B stands correct if we break the sentence in two separate sentence. Please suggest. Any response is appreciated.

Hi Kaushik, would you say:

(i) He was as good in cricket as in football (structure of option E).

Or would you say:

(ii) He was good as much in cricket as in football (structure of option B).

Hopefully in this simplified version, it is easy to see that (i) is correct. Hence, option E is correct.
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Patience Lovell Wright, whose travelling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tussaud's work by 30 years, became well known as much because of having an eccentirc personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.

Patience Lovell Wright became well known for two things :
1> because of her an eccentirc personality
2>for skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax

these two should be parallel to fit into
as much _________________ as

A)well known as much because of having an eccentirc personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
B) well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures => bad parallelism
C)well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of poular public figure
D)as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax. => having in second part doesn't convey the same meaning that sentence wants to convey. it is like - Patience Lovell Wright became well known because she was in possession of skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax. That is clearly not the intention.

E) as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.

D also have parallel issue as well known for X as for Y. but I want to understand if my different reasoning for D is correct or not.
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billyjeans wrote:
I think E is the right one.

A is clearly wrong, the correct idiom should be "as much for ... as for ..

You are right! OA is E
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hey sondenso,
I noticed that too, but B is wrong for a different reason, it's not parallel.
The phrase after the for's are not parrallel. if they are both none then it will be okay.
say "as much for its eccentric personality as for skillful wax renderings of popular public figures

I cant agree with you more! that is my weakness-quickly but carelessly!
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Patience Lovell Wright, whose travelling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tussaud's work by 30 years, became well known as much because of having an eccentirc personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.

A)well known as much because of having an eccentirc personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
B) well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures
C)well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of poular public figure
D)as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
E) as well known for her eccentric personality asfor her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
correct

This question tests parallelism.
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HarishLearner wrote:
I thought "became as well known...." was wrong idiomatic construction...hmmmm

Dear HarishLearner,
This is correct in a comparison.
It's fine to say ...
P became well known.
We could add either a role or an activity
P became well known for her poetry.
P became well known as a baseball pitcher.
Those are all the correct idioms when talking about one person.

Now, when we introduce a comparison, we need the extra "as" ----
P became as well known as Q.
We would tend not to use another "as" preposition in the middle of the "as well known as" construction, because that would be too awkward and confusing, but we could us a "for" preposition ---- and the comparison could be between two people or two activities ----
Clemens became as well known for his steroid controversy as did Bonds. (comparison of people)
Dr. Schweitzer become as well known for musicology as for his humanitarian efforts. (comparison of activities)

Here's a blog about the Idioms of Comparison:
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Here's a free idiom ebook:
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I hope all this helps.
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Can I request some expert to explain this question? The OA is "E" which uses the structure "as X as Y", but is no way we have parallel component in the place of "X" and "Y". If we break it into two separate sentence without the parallel element "as...as...", then the two sentences doesn't stand correct separately. On the other hand the option "B" has "as much X as Y" structure and the two sides of parallel element are parallel in construction. The option B stands correct if we break the sentence in two separate sentence. Please suggest. Any response is appreciated.

h Kaushik,

firstly lets see why B is wrong..
B) well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures
if you look at the two phrases in red, they are not parallel... her skillful wax renderings is noun phrase whereas having an eccentric personality is present participle phrase...

now lets look at E..
E) as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
here both the phrases are noun phrase and follow proper parallelism
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Doesn't E change the meaning?
Are we trying to explain why A is as popular as B or are we trying to find out reasons for popularity of A?? Experts please help

Dear Shreks1190,
I'm happy to respond. Choice (E) does NOT change the meaning. Here's the question again:

Patience Lovell Wright, whose travelling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tussaud's work by 30 years, became well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
A) well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
B) well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures
C) well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of poular public figure
D) as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
E) as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.

First of all, if it may make a suggestion, if you are using "algebraic" letters to talk about elements of a GMAT SC problem, please avoid the first five letters of the alphabet, to avoid obvious confusion with answer choices. There are 21 other letters in the alphabet available as algebraic symbols.

The intent of the sentence to say that Mr. Wright is equally well-known for both X and Y. It is simultaneously is a statement about why she is famous as well as a comparison of these two different reasons why she is famous. The logical framing device in the prompt is

Patience Lovell Wright ... became well known as much because of X as for Y.

The as much P as Q structure is a standard comparison frame, and the GMAT loves to put phrases & clauses into this. Here, in (A), there are two mismatched preposition---a failure of parallelism, even though the meaning is clear. Among other things, (E) expresses this same meaning with a correct parallel structure.

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15 Feb 2007, 05:10
I pick B

A close shot is E, however E changes the meaning a bit....
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16 Feb 2007, 00:27
A, C - Not parallel (beacause - for)
D - not parallel (second for is absent)
E - altered intent

Give me B!
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OA is not B
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17 Feb 2007, 05:37
Is it C?

here "for" acts as because to make it parallel...

I though it was B too
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arj_singh1976 wrote:
Patience Lovell Wright, whose travelling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tussaud's work by 30 years, became well known as much because of having an eccentirc personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.

A)well known as much because of having an eccentirc personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
B) well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures
C)well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of poular public figure
D)as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
E) as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful was renderings of popular public figures.

I will go with E - I assume the "was renderings" is wax renderings.

In b, having is like being which GMAT doesnt like. not parallel.
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arj_singh1976 wrote:
Patience Lovell Wright, whose travelling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tussaud's work by 30 years, became well known as much because of having an eccentirc personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.

A)well known as much because of having an eccentirc personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
B) well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures
C)well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of poular public figure
D)as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
E) as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful was renderings of popular public figures.

I will go with E - I assume the "was renderings" is wax renderings.

In b, having is like being which GMAT doesnt like. not parallel.

Thanks for correction. It is indeed 'wax rendering'. But could you plz explain why did u pick up E and not others?
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17 Feb 2007, 09:56
oK , let me see...

I went with B as well...

we need "as much" here to show that she was well known because (equally) for her personality as for her work..

also we need "as..for" form..
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