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Hi Team,

I decided to take gmat on dec 14 2011 and i started y preparation no august 25th.

First went thru all basic from princeton review,and manhattan to brush up my English and math knowledge.As i am an engineering gradutate i have had no problem in math but found little difficult in English as all Indians.Though i found i tough it was not as tough as i went thru the journey of preparing my gmat.

October i started giving tests so that i can know myself were i actually stand.
1Gmat (practise test)- 680

Not bad than i expected to be.

Later i went thru many questions from forum called forum Grockit. i took almost 10 practise tests by the month of november and i scored in the range of 690-720.

GMat prep test-700,680 (include 2 tests)
Gmat power prep- 700,710(include 2 tests).
Kaplan Free test-680.
Princeton Review-700.

On the day of gmat i found many questions to be simple and each question i moved on was easier than the previous,i was scared that i am not getting tough once so i redid each question atleast 5 times , my answers were correct according to me. i had no doubt in my answering still i got easy question.

Though verbal was difficult i felt that i was doing ok with it but didn t have much of satisfaction

at the end of my exam though i was not expecting a 700+ i wanted to see atleast a 600 + according to my knowledge of writting,but i was shocked to see my score was 360....heart broken i dont know wat to do nxt...in the bad mind also i got my hand fractured that evening...with the injury i am trying to write my gmat this feb..anf i believe in GMat club now...

Wat i have to do next how should i prepare to score high???


Please anyone help me with this, i really need your support....


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Sounds to me like you had a bad day... This happens sometimes. You may have come across some questions you REALLY thought you got right, but didn't see the trick. If you miss the first 4 or 5 questions in each section, you'd be in the easy bucket of questions before you even knew it! I would recommend restudying, refreshing, and learning to double check questions and what type of mistakes to look for.

It sounds like you are capable of scoring a 700+ (if all the practice tests you took were timed with AWA and the first time you took them).

Also, be honest, and try to think of ANYTHING that could have caused you to do so poorly on test day. Did you retake practice tests? Did you drink coffee when normally you don't? Were you nervous? Did you sleep Poorly? Did you not study as hard as you though? Did you take practice tests multiple times? Did you study old material? Litterally it could be anything, but YOU are the only person that can be honest with yourself and try to figure it out. We are here to help, but it sounds like you are doing the right things. I would recommend a retake, with ample studying (new material), and also considering this post: 10-tips-to-improve-your-score-app-with-no-extra-studying-124393.html during the rest of your studying.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out!
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Re: Please Guide me!! [#permalink] New post 11 Jan 2012, 08:47
Hi GMATLA,

Thanks for your concern and for the 10 tips ...

As far as i know, i was rushing towards the end to finish my verbal, i had only 5 mins and ten questions left so inthe thought that i have done well before i did the most best educated guess so i admit i was not in full fledged mind towards the end of verbal.Also in quans i was redoing the first five question again and again in a thought that i shud not go wrong in first 5 and must go into bucket of tough questions...but it was my bad time or something went wrong which i am not able to figure..

But i still have confidence in me ... i can do it kinda thought...i retook practice test in Knewton SC, and GMAT club verbal still i found that in knweton sc set provided by GMAT club i got 21/21 question and score 92.9 percentile.However in verbal provided by GMAT club i got three wrong answers...

Can you tell me what kind of book i need to follow now..

I thought of doing only OG 10,11,12 for rest of the month and take as many practice tests as possible..

I scheduled like this morning go through all the concepts and questions from OG 10 11 or 12 then in the evening write test in each section to see in which section am i not performing well...

is this a better way??

I am really really thank full for your reply post..Thanks a lot.
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Re: Please Guide me!! [#permalink] New post 11 Jan 2012, 09:36
It sounds to me as though you may have had a timing issue. I would recommend that you spend time studying the OG12 (these are the most recent questions) as well as building on your foundations through books such as the 8 manhattan GMAT guides. You need to practice under timed settings, and make sure that you have the ability to answer quant questions in 2 minutes or less, and NEVER spend more than 3 minutes on 1 questions. Also, CR quesitons should take roughly 2 minutes, and SC should take roughly 90 seconds. A RC passage should take you approx 2 min per questions (this INCLUDES reading the passage). If you end up having 5 minutes left in a section and 10 questions to go, you just gave away 100+ points! Trust me, that is not enough time, and even if you got every other question right, you will not get a 700, and maybe not even a 600.

So work on your timing, work on your foundations for quant and verbal, and work on practice tests to make sure your timing is perfect. You should ideally have about 15-18 min left in the last 10 verbal questions, and 20 min left for the last 10 quant questions. Make sure you are on track, and if you are not, make an educated guess on a question or two to put your timing back in-line... You need to give full attention to EVERY question you have the ability to answer.

You've got this, don't let a 360 kill you. Honestly, that low of a score will be totally overlooked as a "Bad Day" if you are able to do significantly better on test day. If you have not taken the GMATprep tests from www.mba.com, I would recommend using these as practice tests since they will be the best estimate of how you will do on test day. Good luck, and come back to let us know how you do.

Relax, study hard, practice under timed conditions, and be honest with yourself... and you'll get through the GMAT journey. Good luck!
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Re: Please Guide me!! [#permalink] New post 11 Jan 2012, 09:48
Hi GMATLA,

Thanks appreciated.I will follow as you said and keep posted with the updates of my preparation in later half of the month.I am taking my second gmat on feb 11th, i will see to that i do follow your advise and move accordingly.Thanks once again.
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Re: Please Guide me!! [#permalink] New post 13 Jan 2012, 23:21
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If I were you, I would reschedule my GMAT appointment and not rush to take my next GMAT.

I would spend time analyzing what went wrong and then work hard on each of these issues for a couple of months.

What was your breakup between quants and verbals?

On verbals, I would suggest you take the e-GMAT course and enroll for it. It's relatively cheap and the instructors would be able to guide you during your verbal preps. It's tailor made for Indians.

Also, go through, re-read the MGMAT SC book cover to cover and internalize the rules.

Go through the Brutal SC, CR documents on GMATClub - and also the verbal notes by whiplash, Gayathri, spidey etc - all are free downloads here.

On quants, I would suggest you go through the GMATClub Free Online Book and the various discussion threads on quant here - please, please review each question you got wrong and understand them.

Once you have studied thoroughly for a month, start taking tests again:

Take the GMATPrep practice tests at least twice.

Other than the MGMAT tests, I would suggest you take the free Kaplan, Veritas, Knewton, PlatinumGMAT free tests as well.

Do let me know if you have questions.

But my advice would be: Please don't rush to take the GMAT again until you have realized and worked on what your problems were the first time around.

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Re: Please Guide me!! [#permalink] New post 14 Jan 2012, 07:13
Hi Santanu 76

Yeah i am not rushing up..i have planned to reschedule my gmat exam as you said..i am on gmat club and started preparing from scratch so that i understand the concept well from base.e-gmat is the one which i have to enroll ..as i already mentioned i have done kaplan ,but knewton and veritas are the once i have to take.Since i met with an accident on the day after i wrote gmat,i have not been able to start my preparation as of jan 11th.i have started on jan 11th, and the university which i am planning to apply for has the last application deadline as march 26.So wen do you think i can re write my exam.

Talking about my tests now, i did gmatclub verbal 6 papers and i got around 85-90 percentile in each tests.I am able to write CR,SC but not RC(not as good compared to CR,SC), may be i don understand how to proceed or answer these questions.

Wat is the best GMAT test date you suggest for me?
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Since the deadline for the schools you want to apply to is March 26, I think you need to take the GMAT latest by Feb end. On your verbal preps, I am not talking of the GMATClub Verbal tests - I am talking of the Brutal SC, CR documents and SC and CR guides by whiplash, Gayathri and Spidey, that you can download here: download.php

I would advise you to go through the GMATClub SC, CR and RC and PS, DS discussion threads, which are broken down into 700-level questions and 600-level questions. You can find these links here: viewforumtags.php

I would suggest that you go through the 600-level threads first and then attempt the 700-level threads. Also, please go to whiplash's profile and download all the verbal documents you'll find in her signature. In short, taking tests is fine, but more important is building your foundation by understanding the explanations and internalizing them.

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Re: Please Guide me!! [#permalink] New post 15 Jan 2012, 08:36
Hi Santanu 76,

Thanks Santanu i will follow wat you suggested for me. I have decided to take my test on feb 27th.I will contact you if i have any doubt.Thanks for suggestions Santanu.Thanks again.
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Re: Please Guide me!! [#permalink] New post 16 Jan 2012, 06:13
Okay, Vaishnavi - all the best!
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Re: Please Guide me!! [#permalink] New post 02 Feb 2012, 08:34
Hi Santanu 76 and GMATLA ,

I have only few days left for my real GMAT test.I planned to take the test on feb 25th, i am done with basic concepts and finished doing 10,11 and 12th edition of OG. I have also done few of gmat club questions.i did with all the suggested books by santanu and GMATLA.

if there are any other suggestion from your sides, i am planning to take one full length tests to see where i stand now.I need your advice please.
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Re: Please Guide me!! [#permalink] New post 03 Feb 2012, 04:01
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Just to confirm:

You have gone through the GMATClub Online Maths book, the DS and PS documents by Bunuel, the verbal guides by whiplash, Gayathri as well as the Brutal CR and SC documents by whiplash and the SC discussion thread on this forum - right?

If you have and hopefully, if you are feeling a bit more confident about your concepts, I think it's a good time to take a GMATPrep mock test.

Do let us know how it went.

Also, remember, always, ALWAYS have a tab on time - guess and skip a question if you cannot understand how to solve it in the first minute, max in the first 90 seconds.
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Re: Please Guide me!! [#permalink] New post 03 Feb 2012, 06:07
Hi santanu 76,

Yeah i have completed ,but i still have fear to face the mock tests.Since my first GMAT went very bad i am not able to regain the confidence that i had earlier (how much ever i practice). Even if i get 2 out of 10 question wrong now, i feel that i wont be able to do my GMAT well...

As you said this Monday (US central time) i will give my first mock and let you know how it went.Thanks Santanu 76.
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Probably this post won't win me kudos, but I think I need to be a tad blunt here.:) GMAT is a microcosm of actual MBA life and the difficult professional life post MBA - it tests how well we can manage time and stress and come out with flying colors. I think this timid and scared approach of yours won't help you one bit - you need to dust yourself off, take the GMAT head on and face it. And please, please think logically - missing 2 out of 10 questions cannot lead to a bad score - but having a muddled and confused and scared mind does. I can be a good samaritan and say that everything will be okay. But I think it's better if I don't do that and really ask of you to stop feeling self pity, self doubt and go ahead and take the mock tests fearlessly. If you continue with your current frame of mind, it might impact your next GMAT as well.
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Re: Please Guide me!! [#permalink] New post 04 Feb 2012, 11:36
Hi santanu 76,

Thanks a lot,you words means a lot to me and i will face GMAT brave this time as you said. of course this earns you a kudos.

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I didn't write this post to get a kudo... was simply trying to say that I need to be blunt to get you to be a little bit braver..:)

Thanks anyways and do let us know how today's mock went...
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Re: Please Guide me!! [#permalink] New post 06 Feb 2012, 13:25
Hi Santanu 76,

I wrote Gmat(gmat prep) today and score 630(Q 40 and V 36).

When i reviewed the exam for incorrect answers i found out that i was doing well in PS but DS had mistakes,that too while reviewing,i read the question first and understood what the answer must have been.That means i know the answer but while writing i have made mistakes .

For example i came across a question
Each person in a certain group supports only one of two candidates R and T. Of the people in the group, 45 percent support Candidate R and the rest support Candidate T. How many people in the group are in favor of a flat tax ?

(1) Of the people in the group who support Candidate R, 58 percent are in favor of flat tax

(2) Of the people in the group who support Candidate T, 22 are in favor of a flat tax.

while doing test i had written C as my answer,but when i read question slowly again i answered it was E and was the rite choice.

Like this i had made mistake and i was able to complete quants 10 mins ahead of time.

Coming to verbal....

I seriously have to improve a lot

My problem was in Sentence correction and RC i got 4 wrongs ( the toughest once -long passage).

Sentence correction had the highest questions wrong.

Critical Reasoning of all i got 2 wrongs, 1 in weakening and 1 in assumption.
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Re: Please Guide me!! [#permalink] New post 06 Feb 2012, 13:30
Hi Satanu 76,

I also analyzed what is wrong with me.My concentration was at the peak in the start while doing quants and till i reached 21 question in verbal,but later it started to fall all of a sudden.I was able to finish quants in time but verbal had to rush up towards end(i.e i had 10 question left and 8 min),though most of the answer in the last were correct (around 8), i felt bad for this approach.If i had time from first or concentrated more i would have done even better in verbal

Note : i wrote with Awa though it was not score in the test.
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That's a clear improvement, good show!

A few points:

- Yes, I agree that time management is crucial - it's easier said than done - you should strive for better time management in verbal

- Which test did you take? Was it the GMATPrep 1? Have you taken GMATPrep before? That might inflate the score a bit.

- Do take the other available free tests as well - Knewton, Kaplan, PlatinumGMAT, MGMAT - dont bother about the score because various companies have various scoring algorithms - concentrate on the strategy and the number of errors you get.

- Would suggest you start taking two mock tests a week from now on - with a spacing of 3-4 days between each.

- You have around 17 days to GMAT, would make sense to take 5-6 mock tests in total and analyze each thoroughly.

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Re: Please Guide me!! [#permalink] New post 07 Feb 2012, 21:17
Hi Santanu 76,

Yes i took GMatprep1 which had completely different questions in the pool, infact i downloaded it again and no such question were repeating.Last time wen i prepared i did take Gmatprep but i didnt solve all the questions from the pool,instead took one test and left...

Yeah sure as you say...

I wrote a paper base test today ..it was OG paper based test,i downloaded and got around 700..but since its paper based never mind ,just not to waste time i did..

Ok as you said will do it..and report .Thanks
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