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Please Help! - Should I Retake? [#permalink] New post 05 Jan 2006, 10:37
Hi Linda,

Please help me out, I've been struggling with what I should do...

GMAT#1: Q45 V35 - 650 Essay: 6.0
GMAT#2: Q50 V31 - 680 Essay: 6.0
GPA: 3.73 in a Top 50 School - Business Honors Program (Finance)
Work Experience: 4 Years at a top software company (Marketing Manager)
Interested in: Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Northwestern

I know the schools I listed are top tier and their 80% range fall 680 - 750 but I'd be happy if I got into at least one of these schools. Sure, a score over 700 is preferred, but is it a must to have a chance? Also, I don't know if its good to take the GMATs 3 times. I do think I can get over 700 but, I would rather concentrate on my application, if my high GPA or Essays make up my weak Verbal Score.

Please advise,

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Re: Please Help! - Should I Retake? [#permalink] New post 05 Jan 2006, 15:46
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Hi Linda,

Please help me out, I've been struggling with what I should do...

GMAT#1: Q45 V35 - 650 Essay: 6.0
GMAT#2: Q50 V31 - 680 Essay: 6.0
GPA: 3.73 in a Top 50 School - Business Honors Program (Finance)
Work Experience: 4 Years at a top software company (Marketing Manager)
Interested in: Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Northwestern

I know the schools I listed are top tier and their 80% range fall 680 - 750 but I'd be happy if I got into at least one of these schools. Sure, a score over 700 is preferred, but is it a must to have a chance? Also, I don't know if its good to take the GMATs 3 times. I do think I can get over 700 but, I would rather concentrate on my application, if my high GPA or Essays make up my weak Verbal Score.

Please advise,

Conflicted...


Are you a native English speaker? Are you a male or female? member of an under-represented minority? Do you have any interesting extra-curriculars? hobbies?
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Jan 2006, 17:30
I really want to be evaluated properly so let me give you some more info:

In reponse to your questions:

I am a male, Korean Citizen with a permanent resident Visa. English is my second language. In terms of interesting extra-curricular activities, I plan to do some work for NPO's and do volunteer work early this year (not because of my GMAT apps). Keep in mind, I am planning to apply for Round 1 in september.

I may have an interesting background in that I have 3+ years of work experience in the Video Game Industry (I don't think there would be many MBAs from this industry) at a major software company. I've been promoted 3 times in 3 years. I've also had internships in banking with Merrill Lynch and Mergers and Acquisitions with 3M Company. My GPA of 3.73 (top 5% of my class) comes from a top 10 undergraduate business school and since I was in the honors program (about 50 out of 2000 students), I had to take much more difficult honors level courses.

In terms of recommendation letters, I think I can find rec letters from people who went to the Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Northwesterns of the world. I also have a VP in Merrill that is willing to write me a rec letter. I also plan to travel to every single campus I apply to and get an interview with at least 1 faculty member in the MBA schools to really find out what parts of the graduate schools fit with what I have to offer.

I am hoping my essay grade of 6.0 offsets the low verbal score...

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On a side note, although I have 4 years of work experience and 5 years of work experience if I count my internships, I just turned 24 years of age. I was planning to apply with the 680 GMAT score and see if I get in and if I get dinged on all five I would improve my GMAT score to above 750 to show significant improvement on my application when I reapply. My goal is to be able to give a SOLID Application to the top schools in terms of work experience, extra curricular activities, resume, rec letters and of course GMAT. Now, I may not be a lock at any of the schools with a SOLID App that doesn't include extraordinary features, but I am thinking that if I get into at least one of the schools, I'd be happy.

Given my best quant score and my best verbal score(which was still low considering I was getting 38 - 41 on practice exams), I think I can clear 700 within the next 2 months. But I am thinking if its worth it for me to lose 2 months of prep time for my applications, to raise 20 - 30 points. I know having a 700 or 710 puts you in the average score at the top schools but, if I am planning to travel and research a ton on the schools I am applying to, every month is crucial.

Another big worry is the new format of the exams (I don't know how well I would do on a dry erase board)

Sorry for the long post, but I think I can get better advice from you if you knew as much as possible.

Thanks in advance for your response.
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 [#permalink] New post 08 Jan 2006, 12:00
To add to this,

How many extracurricular activities should you list on the apps? Some give spaces for 5 during college and 5 after college. I could fill out all 10 but I would say the last 3 would be stuff that I haven't really been involved in, but just a member of.

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Re: Please Help! - Should I Retake? [#permalink] New post 09 Jan 2006, 16:40
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Hi Linda,

Please help me out, I've been struggling with what I should do...

GMAT#1: Q45 V35 - 650 Essay: 6.0
GMAT#2: Q50 V31 - 680 Essay: 6.0
GPA: 3.73 in a Top 50 School - Business Honors Program (Finance)
Work Experience: 4 Years at a top software company (Marketing Manager)
Interested in: Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Northwestern

I know the schools I listed are top tier and their 80% range fall 680 - 750 but I'd be happy if I got into at least one of these schools. Sure, a score over 700 is preferred, but is it a must to have a chance? Also, I don't know if its good to take the GMATs 3 times. I do think I can get over 700 but, I would rather concentrate on my application, if my high GPA or Essays make up my weak Verbal Score.

Please advise,

Conflicted...


I read your posts. You are borderline in terms of retaking. I can really argue it either way. But I don't think you would like it if I left it at that. :-)
so I will make a recommendation.

Don't retake. Use the time until fall to research schools, beef up your extra-curriculars, and work on essays. Then if you are rejected, you can beef up that GMAT.

Good luck!
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 [#permalink] New post 09 Jan 2006, 16:41
Hi Linda,

I know you get more questions than you can possibly answer, but I would really be thankful if you can evaluate my profile. I see your comments on the GmatClub and find them very helpful.

Also, does it help me that I'm a Korean citizen even though I'm a US permanent resident and lived in the states for 10+ years?

Thank you!
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 [#permalink] New post 09 Jan 2006, 16:44
I guess we posted at the same time so I didn't see your reply! Thanks for your feedback, I will try my best with the apps. I really have nothing to lose I guess. Wish me luck :)
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