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13 Jan 2013, 23:54
Congratulations!

As others have suggested, try visiting both schools if possible. If not, try to talk to as many current students at both schools to see where you fit in better and ask specific questsions about career opportunities.

They are both really great institutions. You will get what you put into the business school experience, and I'm sure you will end up with a great job either way if you focus and work hard.

So I would lean toward Darden w the full tuition, and wish you luck in getting the Jefferson Fellowship!

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First the complete application season status:
Wharton, Booth (ding w/ interview), Sloan (ding w/o interview)
Darden (Admit w/$$+ chance to interview for Jefferson fellowship which would also cover living expenses +3,000/yr stipend) LBS, Haas (WLed) Kellogg (Applied R2, no result out yet, of course) I will admit Tuck was one of my first loves and till a few days back (before the Darden scholarship info) I didn't even consider not going to Tuck. But now I feel I am in a massive dilemma regarding the situation - Darden is really keen on having me and 110k+ over two years is nothing to sneeze at while Tuck refused my request for any$$.

My background is: Indian/M/CFA/Engineer with 5+ years in third-party research services (mainly fixed income). I am a bit uncertain about the direction of my career. Off the bat, I would try to get an summer internship with GS/JPM/UBS etc. and try to get a full-time offer (FTO). I plan to meet the full cost of education through loans and a FTO would be really important to get over the sinking-in-debt feeling. Assuming the said FTO materializes, I would like to explore opportunities beyond ibanking in my second year such as with IFC, WB or just plain ol' corp. finance. Investment banking is a close plan B if these options do not play out well. I would ideally like to get back to India/HK/Singapore in 7-10 years post-MBA.

Making lifelong friends and quality of life are very important considerations while at both during MBA and beyond that. Much more important than slight differences in salary. That being said, I am sensitive to career opportunities (does it open doors?) and quality of network (will people bat for me if I want to move into PE in Asia 3-4 years down the line?).

So here is how my analysis breaks down to:

Tuck
+ Ivy league, top-10, bigger brand (just my perception?)
+ Highly regarded alum network
+ Relatively strong connections to PE (and many students with prior IB/PE exp; I know I wouldn't get in but the network is important I suppose given my ambivalent career goals)
- No $; a longer debt repayment period - Very cold winters (but then I dont mind the idea of skiing ) Darden + Top-15 (though not THAT below Tuck in US News rankings) + Full tuition + chance at Jefferson Fellowship (Full cost of attendance + up to$3000/yr stipend) (My client, who is in sell-side research, says if you are getting full ride and fellowship, the school will cater special attention to see you get placed and the fellowship will help me distinguish my resume better, any idea on the validity of that opinion?)
- Top-15 is lower than top-10
- I somehow like the sound of Boston/NY better than GA (note that I have never been to the states)

#Not sure about either school's standing with IFC et al.

Would I be really foolish to give up on greater long-term benefits with Tuck for short-term benefits? Or is Darden here a "no-brainer" (as my client says)?

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14 Jan 2013, 13:59
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I wouldnt even think twice about this. I actually visited and interviewed at both schools. Both programs great and very simmilar (I like Tuck´s more) - both are small programs, have a strong alumni network, focused on general managent, rely heavily in the case method (moreso Darden). C-Ville is a million times nicer than Hanover. Tuck does place more stuednts in the north east but it can surely be done from Darden too.

I dont think there is a massive difference in brand name recognition between both schools abroad. At least in Latin American neither school is well known.

Even if you look inot rankings its a top 10 vs a top 15 school.

I think this is pretty straight forward, go to Darden.

Although Tuck is not well-known internationally, it does have a much stronger buyside network than Darden. I thought about applying to darden/fuqua/yale this year but decided against them because they are almost non-existent in the buyside circle (especially hedge funds and investment management). This is the only reason why I think it's a close call; if the OP were interested in general management, consulting, banking, i would say take darden and have fun in charlottesville for 2 years. But to me, this really is 50/50.
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Re: Tuck vs Darden ($$+chance at prestigious fellowship) [#permalink] ### Show Tags 14 Jan 2013, 14:00 Question to the other posters. If the OP were deciding between booth with no money vs darden$$$, would you guys say it's a no-brainer and go with booth? If so, it seems like people see a huge drop in prestige and opportunities between booth and tuck. Senior Manager Joined: 30 Jul 2012 Posts: 340 Concentration: Finance, Economics GPA: 4 Followers: 11 Kudos [?]: 116 [0], given: 215 Re: Tuck vs Darden ($$+chance at prestigious fellowship) [#permalink] ### Show Tags 14 Jan 2013, 14:54 Shawshank wrote: Question to the other posters. If the OP were deciding between booth with no money vs darden$$$, would you guys say it's a no-brainer and go with booth? If so, it seems like people see a huge drop in prestige and opportunities between booth and tuck.

Good point. I would say Booth in that case.
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16 Jan 2013, 18:19
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Maybe its an omen or something, I read this in the morning (http://news.efinancialcareers.com/uk-en/131760/how-banking-can-ruin-your-body-and-mind/) and was immediately reminded why I had second thoughts about ibanking in the first place. Still can't get "moobs" out of my head. And lets not even go near ED.

So if you would like to indulge me again, any idea which of these schools would allow me to better explore a career in international/developmental finance? Read IFC, WB etc. Is distance to NY/Washington a factor here?

For non-traditional paths like that.. I think your best bet is talking to current students/alumni. I have to imagine, though, that both schools will do equally as well in that forum.
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16 Jan 2013, 18:39
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clomps wrote:
I love Darden and with your full ride, I would have a really hard time saying no to that sort of money. However, in your situation, I would pick Tuck. Given your aspirations to work in Asia, Dartmouth is a MUCH bigger name there than UVA. I'm not saying that you couldn't get there by going to Darden. But I think Tuck will open more doors for you on that front. Yes, Tuck has a a slightly better reputation than Darden in the U.S., but in Asia, I think there is a much more substantial gap.

If money is not a significant issue, go with Tuck. If money is indeed an issue (which it probably would for most of us on this forum!), go with Darden.

Dartmouth is a much bigger brand name than UVa, really? Are you sure. I feel they are sadly both unknown in the APAC region. The only reason most people I have talked to knew about Tuck was because of the ivy-league thing, which seems less relevant here. In favor of your argument, however, LinkedIn did in fact consistently display slightly greater number of Tuck alums in finance related careers in Singapore and Hong Kong (flawed methodology notwithstanding). The difference was starker for London. But the numbers were so low for both schools that I was a little disappointed with both

Tuck's network is small due to its class size. No one will argue on that. But the network is extremely loyal and will go to bat for a fellow tuckie. For example, every Tuck student/alum I talked to said that when they would e-mail an alum, they would get a response 90% of the time and often, they would gladly meet up for a chat and forward your resume over to the right people. I don't think you can understate intensity when it comes to the value of an alumni network.

Tuck is actually quite strong in London and Tokyo because the school has gone out of its way to expand their reach in those cities. So if you go to Tuck, I think getting a bank job in london/tokyo is certainly feasible while with darden, it will be harder.
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16 Jan 2013, 18:43
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Sloan is not exactly a "lower ranked" school.

Of course. I added that line about Sloan as an afterthought. Didnt realize it was implying that Slaon was lower-ranked. haha!
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Re: Tuck vs Darden ($$+chance at prestigious fellowship) [#permalink] ### Show Tags 16 Jan 2013, 18:45 Shawshank wrote: joy4ol wrote: Shawshank wrote: Given your career goals, Tuck is definitely better. Darden is fine for regular bulge bracket banking, but it's weak in other areas of finance; its bread and butter has always been consulting. Although Tuck is also a general management focused school, it's remarkably strong in finance, and its network is amazing despite the small size. If you're VERY confident that those are your career goals, go to Tuck. Also, Tuck has formal joint degree programs with harvard kennedy and johns hopkins sais. Given your goals, you should look into applying to those schools during your first year at Tuck. I have never seriously considered the JD/MBA thing but let me explore this as well. Extra costs as well I imagine :\ Harvard kennedy and johns hopkins are policy programs, NOT law schools. You would get a master's, NOT a JD. Sorry, I meant Joint degree (JD) as in MBA+MA. Does JD have different connotation as well in law? Re: Tuck vs Darden ($$$+chance at prestigious fellowship) [#permalink] 16 Jan 2013, 18:45 Go to page Previous 1 2 3 4 Next [ 66 posts ] Similar topics Replies Last post Similar Topics: Tuck($) VS Darden($$) 3 26 Mar 2015, 05:54 13 Tuck vs. Darden 11 18 Feb 2015, 08:31 5 Tuck vs. Darden ($$$) 8 06 Jan 2015, 11:40 2 Tuck vs Darden? 10 23 Apr 2014, 21:49 Darden vs. Tuck 4 14 May 2013, 08:15 Display posts from previous: Sort by # Tuck vs Darden ($+chance at prestigious fellowship)

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