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Thank you for the clarification Ravi. Your method makes sense to me.
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The easiest way is to check with answers

A) 36 min i.e horse A 4 laps and horse B 3 laps
Hence A
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Isn't the LCM of the two numbers the solution since the question is asking for mins?
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Two horses begin running on an oval course at the same time. One runs each lap in 9 minutes; the other takes 12 minutes to run each lap. How Many minutes after the start will the faster horse have a one lap lead?

A. 36
B. 12
C. 9
D. 4
E. 3


SOLUTION:

Here is how I thought about it with minimal math:

The problem asks after how many minutes H2 will lead by 1 lap. In other words, both horses are running for the same amount of time until H2 leads by 1 lap. Sp check the LCM of 9 and 12, which is 36 = ANSWER A
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Re: Two horses begin running on an oval course at the same time. [#permalink]
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Isn't the LCM of the two numbers the solution since the question is asking for mins?



That's correct in this case.

LCM of 9 & 12 = 36

In 36 minutes, the faster would be 1 LAP ahead of the slower one

Answer = A
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.............. Rate .............. Time ...................... Total Laps

Slow horse ........ \(\frac{1}{12}\) ............. x ................... \(\frac{x}{12}\) (Let "x" is the time taken by both horses)

Fast horse ......... \(\frac{1}{9}\) ................ x .................... \(\frac{x}{12} + 1\) (Given that fast horse is 1 lap ahead compared to slow horse)

\(\frac{1}{9} * x = \frac{x}{12} + 1\)

x = 36

Answer = A
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Re: Two horses begin running on an oval course at the same time. [#permalink]
let length of 1 lap be 'd'.
2nd horse travels 'd' distance in 12 mins . then in 9 mins it travels = (3d)/4.

So 1st horse leads by d/4 .
hence 1st horse takes 9 mins to give a lead of d/4 ,
then ??? to give a lead of d
=> 9 * d * (1/(d/4)) => 9 * d * 4/d = 36min
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it can be done like:-

let faster horse take X laps in t time:so total time = 9X
and in same time slower one will take X-1 laps so total time =12(X-1)

so 9x=12(x-1)
as time is same for both.

12x-9x=12
x=4

total time for faster horse =36

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Re: Two horses begin running on an oval course at the same time. [#permalink]
Hi Bunuel,

Can you please check my approach?

Let's assume distance is 36miles.
Speeds are in this ratio: 4:3, so ratio of distance will also be in the same ratio because time is constant.
ratio of distance is 4:3 and difference is 36, so 4 parts are equal to 4x36. Then time is : 4x36 divided by 4 equals 36.



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rakp wrote:
Two horses begin running on an oval course at the same time. One runs each lap in 9 minutes; the other takes 12 minutes to run each lap. How Many minutes after the start will the faster horse have a one lap lead?

A. 36
B. 12
C. 9
D. 4
E. 3


The rate of the faster horse is 1/9 lap/minute;
The rate of the slower horse is 1/12 lap/minute;

Their relative rate is 1/9-1/12=1/36 lap/minute;

The faster horse to gain one full lap will need time=distance/rate=1/(1/36)=36 minutes.

Answer: A.

Hope it's clear.
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faster horse gains 1/9-1/12=1/36 lpm
1 lap/(1/36) lpm=36 minutes
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or a simple method

1)9 min 12 min(+3 min lead)
2)9 min 12 min(+6 min lead)
3)9 min 12 min(+9 min lead)

after third total lead time is +9 min(time taken for faster horse to complete on lap or that means the faster horse is now exactly one lap ahead of the slower)
So after 36 min the father horse will be one lap ahead

(9+9+9 +9(leadtime))=12+12+12=36
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Re: Two horses begin running on an oval course at the same time. [#permalink]
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Two horses begin running on an oval course at the same time. One runs each lap in 9 minutes; the other takes 12 minutes to run each lap. How Many minutes after the start will the faster horse have a one lap lead?

A. 36
B. 12
C. 9
D. 4
E. 3


Let T be the time , at which the lead of 1 lap occurs
So in T minutes faster horse makes \(\frac{T}{9}\) laps , slower horse in T minutes makes \(\frac{T}{12}\) laps

Eqn can be written as \(\frac{T}{9}\) -\(\frac{T}{12}\) =1
\(\frac{12T- 9T} {108}\) =1 -> 3T =108 -> T =36, Ans = A. Hope this helps.
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Re: Two horses begin running on an oval course at the same time. [#permalink]
s=d/t
d is same
s= 1/9 and 1/12
now take the LCM of 9 and 12 to check where they meets
answer= 36 (A)
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Re: Two horses begin running on an oval course at the same time. [#permalink]
rakp wrote:
Two horses begin running on an oval course at the same time. One runs each lap in 9 minutes; the other takes 12 minutes to run each lap. How Many minutes after the start will the faster horse have a one lap lead?

A. 36
B. 12
C. 9
D. 4
E. 3



Horse 1= 1/9

Horse 2= 1/12

Relative speed= 1/9 - 1/12

Relative speed= 1/36

T= D/R

T= 1/(1/36)= 36 = A.
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