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The number of water lilies on a certain lake doubles every two days. If there is exactly one water lily on the lake, it takes 60 days for the lake to be fully covered with water lilies. In how many days will the lake be fully covered with lilies, if initially there were two water lilies on it?

(A) 15

(B) 28

(C) 30

(D) 58

(E) 59

My approach doesn't work :( Please, share your ideas!


Starting from 1 Water Lilly it takes 60 days.
If there are already two present, it can be taken as the first day is over.
It will take 59 more days.
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I understand the logic, but am not able to solve it algebraically.

since the series is in the geometric progression with the common ration (r) = 2, initial condition can be rewritten as:

a(n) = 1.2^60-1 {a(n = a.r^n-1)} === which gives us total number of lillies in the pool ==>2^59.....no this is equated when the the pool starts with 2 lillies...==> 2^59 = 2.2^n-1 ===>n=59..

Where am I going wrong?
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I understand the logic, but am not able to solve it algebraically.

since the series is in the geometric progression with the common ration (r) = 2, initial condition can be rewritten as:

a(n) = 1.2^60-1 {a(n = a.r^n-1)} === which gives us total number of lillies in the pool ==>2^59.....no this is equated when the the pool starts with 2 lillies...==> 2^59 = 2.2^n-1 ===>n=59..

Where am I going wrong?


We are told that "the number of water lilies on a certain lake doubles every TWO days".

If there are two lilies, then in order to cover the lake they would need to double one time less than in case with 1 lily. Since lilies double every two days, then 60-2=58 days are needed.

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Bunuel,
would you please illustrate this question using the population formula rule used in the MGMAT.

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Bunuel,
would you please illustrate this question using the population formula rule used in the MGMAT.

Thank you


Sorry not familiar with that one. The following threads might help:
a-certain-bacteria-colony-doubles-in-size-every-day-for-144013.html
it-takes-30-days-to-fill-a-laboratory-dish-with-bacteria-140269.html
a-certain-culture-of-bacteria-quadruples-every-hour-if-a-52258.html
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Bunuel or anyone,

Please confirm if my approach is correct.

Sum of lillies for 30 days using Geo Series:
a= 1+2+2^2+2^3..2^30 --(1)
2a = 2+2^2...2^31 -- (2)
Subtract 1 from 2
a=2^31 - 1 (Total lillies in the pond)

Now let x be number of times, both lillies expanded at once
lilly 1 -> a=1+2+2^2...2^x
sum of lilly 1 using Geo series described above = 2^x+1 - 1
lilly 2 -> a=1+2+2^2....2^x
sum of lilly 2 using Geo series described above = 2^x+1 - 1
--> sum of lilly 1 + sum of lilly 2 = 2^31 -1
so 2(2^x+1 -1) = 2^31 - 1
2^x+2 - 2 = 2^31 -1
approximately 2^x+2 = 2^31
x+2 = 31, x= 29 times ....so 58 days as lillies doubles evry 2 days
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Bunuel or anyone,

Please confirm if my approach is correct.

Sum of lillies for 30 days using Geo Series:
a= 1+2+2^2+2^3..2^30 --(1)
2a = 2+2^2...2^31 -- (2)
Subtract 1 from 2
a=2^31 - 1 (Total lillies in the pond)

Now let x be number of times, both lillies expanded at once
lilly 1 -> a=1+2+2^2...2^x
sum of lilly 1 using Geo series described above = 2^x+1 - 1
lilly 2 -> a=1+2+2^2....2^x
sum of lilly 2 using Geo series described above = 2^x+1 - 1
--> sum of lilly 1 + sum of lilly 2 = 2^31 -1
so 2(2^x+1 -1) = 2^31 - 1
2^x+2 - 2 = 2^31 -1
approximately 2^x+2 = 2^31
x+2 = 31, x= 29 times ....so 58 days as lillies doubles evry 2 days


No, that's not correct. Neat algebraic manipulations though...

Notice that the total number of lilies is not 1+2+2^2+2^3..2^30, it's 2^30.

Initially = 1;
After 2 days = 2, not 1+2;
After 4 days = 2^2 = 4, not 1+2+4.
...
After 60 days = 2^30, not 1+2+2^2+2^3+...+2^30.

Similarly, if initially there are 2 lilies, then the total number would be 2*2^x.

So, we'd have that 2^30 = 2*2^x --> x = 29.

Similar questions to practice:
a-certain-bacteria-colony-doubles-in-size-every-day-for-144013.html
it-takes-30-days-to-fill-a-laboratory-dish-with-bacteria-140269.html
a-certain-culture-of-bacteria-quadruples-every-hour-if-a-52258.html
the-population-of-locusts-in-a-certain-swarm-doubles-every-90353.html
the-population-of-a-bacteria-culture-doubles-every-2-minutes-167378.html

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maaadhu wrote:
Bunuel or anyone,

Please confirm if my approach is correct.

Sum of lillies for 30 days using Geo Series:
a= 1+2+2^2+2^3..2^30 --(1)
2a = 2+2^2...2^31 -- (2)
Subtract 1 from 2
a=2^31 - 1 (Total lillies in the pond)

Now let x be number of times, both lillies expanded at once
lilly 1 -> a=1+2+2^2...2^x
sum of lilly 1 using Geo series described above = 2^x+1 - 1
lilly 2 -> a=1+2+2^2....2^x
sum of lilly 2 using Geo series described above = 2^x+1 - 1
--> sum of lilly 1 + sum of lilly 2 = 2^31 -1
so 2(2^x+1 -1) = 2^31 - 1
2^x+2 - 2 = 2^31 -1
approximately 2^x+2 = 2^31
x+2 = 31, x= 29 times ....so 58 days as lillies doubles evry 2 days


No, that's not correct. Neat algebraic manipulations though...

Notice that the total number of lilies is not 1+2+2^2+2^3..2^30, it's 2^30.

Initially = 1;
After 2 days = 2, not 1+2;
After 4 days = 2^2 = 4, not 1+2+4.
...
After 60 days = 2^30, not 1+2+2^2+2^3+...+2^30.

Similarly, if initially there are 2 lilies, then the total number would be 2*2^x.

So, we'd have that 2^30 = 2*2^x --> x = 29.

Similar questions to practice:
a-certain-bacteria-colony-doubles-in-size-every-day-for-144013.html
it-takes-30-days-to-fill-a-laboratory-dish-with-bacteria-140269.html
a-certain-culture-of-bacteria-quadruples-every-hour-if-a-52258.html
the-population-of-locusts-in-a-certain-swarm-doubles-every-90353.html
the-population-of-a-bacteria-culture-doubles-every-2-minutes-167378.html

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Thank you Bunuel. My interpretation of question is incorrect.
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I am going by this formula : y(t) = y(0) x K^t
where
y(t) = desired value after t period
y(0) = initial value
k = multiplier (or the factor by which the value increases every t period)
t = time period


Given - # of lilies doubles every two days
==> t= 2 days
k^t = k^2 = 2
==> k = sqrt(2)
Now,
it takes 60 days for a lake to be fully covered with water lilies starting from 1 lily
so, y(0) = 1
t = 60 days
y(t) i.e no. of lilies after 60 days
y(t) = 1 x sqrt(2)^60

now, we have the final count of lilies after 60 days if we start from 1 lily.
we can calculate the time period if we start from 2 lilies ( the # of lilies after 60 days will not change as the multiplier is constant)

1 x sqrt(2)^60 = 2 x sqrt(2)^t

Solving this will give t= 58 days.

I hope it helps.
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Notice that the total number of lilies is not 1+2+2^2+2^3..2^30, it's 2^30.

Initially = 1;
After 2 days = 2, not 1+2;
After 4 days = 2^2 = 4, not 1+2+4.
...
After 60 days = 2^30, not 1+2+2^2+2^3+...+2^30.

Similarly, if initially there are 2 lilies, then the total number would be 2*2^x.

So, we'd have that 2^30 = 2*2^x --> x = 29.


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The number of water lilies on a certain lake doubles every two days. If there is exactly one water lily on the lake, it takes 60 days for the lake to be fully covered with water lilies. In how many days will the lake be fully covered with lilies, if initially there were two water lilies on it?

(A) 15
(B) 28
(C) 30
(D) 58
(E) 59

hey Bunuel,

i have a doubt in the first part of the problem it is given that if there is one lily it will take 60 days and number of water lillies double every 2 days.

so, it is in GP and the terms will be a, ar, ar^2, ar^3 etc. here it is 1,2,4,8....

we need to find the 30th term which will be ar^n-1 gives us ar^29 that leads to 1(2^29) but you got it as 2^30

what is wrong with what i did?
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Notice that the total number of lilies is not 1+2+2^2+2^3..2^30, it's 2^30.

Initially = 1;
After 2 days = 2, not 1+2;
After 4 days = 2^2 = 4, not 1+2+4.
...
After 60 days = 2^30, not 1+2+2^2+2^3+...+2^30.

Similarly, if initially there are 2 lilies, then the total number would be 2*2^x.

So, we'd have that 2^30 = 2*2^x --> x = 29.


Hope it helps.


The number of water lilies on a certain lake doubles every two days. If there is exactly one water lily on the lake, it takes 60 days for the lake to be fully covered with water lilies. In how many days will the lake be fully covered with lilies, if initially there were two water lilies on it?

(A) 15
(B) 28
(C) 30
(D) 58
(E) 59

hey Bunuel,

i have a doubt in the first part of the problem it is given that if there is one lily it will take 60 days and number of water lillies double every 2 days.

so, it is in GP and the terms will be a, ar, ar^2, ar^3 etc. here it is 1,2,4,8....

we need to find the 30th term which will be ar^n-1 gives us ar^29 that leads to 1(2^29) but you got it as 2^30

what is wrong with what i did?


If you take first term as 1, then you'd have 31 terms: 1st day plus 30 divisions.
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since it doubles every 2 days..
on day 2 - we have 2
on day 4 - we have 4 or 2^2
on day 6 - we have 8, or 2^3
as we see, the power is nr of days/2
so in 60 days, we'll have 2^30 lilies.

now, we start with 2...
so on day2 - we have 4
on day 4 - we have 8...
day 6 -> 2^4
day 8 -> 2^5
day 10 -> 2^6
day 12 -> 2^7

we can notice a pattern, that when # of days is divisible by 2, the power is +3 than for the last nr of days divisible by 6.
so: day 54 -> 4+3+3+3+3+3+3+3 -> so 28th power.
on day 56 - we'll have 2^29
on day 58 - we'll have 2^30 - the number we need.
so 58 days.
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I found this formula to be easy to apply and it consistently gives me the right answer on questions like this.

Final population = S * P ^ (t/l)
S = starting population
P = progression (doubles = 2, triples = 3 etc.)
t/l = total amount of iterations
t = time
I = intervals

Let X be final number of lilies that covered the lake after 60 days, which means that x = 1 lily * 2 ^ ( 60 days /2 days)
From here => x = 2 ^30 = that is the final number of lilies needed to cover the lake
now if we start with 2 lilies => 2 ^ 30( which is the total number of lilies needed to cover the lake ) = 2 * 2 ^ t/ 2

=> 30 = t/2 +1 => 29 = t/2 => t = 58 - is the time needed to cover the lake when starting with 2 lilies
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Hi @Bunuel/ BrentGMATPrepNow,

Not sure if my approach is okay but the way I picture this -

For one Lilly -
Day 1 - 1
Day 2 - 2^2*1
Day 3 - 2^2*1
Day 4 - 2^3*1
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Day 60 - 2^59*1 (which we know constitutes a filled lake) -----(1)

Thus for 2 lilies increasing at a rate -
Day 1 - 2
Day 2 - 2^2*2
Using (1) => 2 lilies will be same as 2^59 or a filled lake if 2^58*2. This implies it will take 58 days for 2 lilies.

Please advise.
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The number of water lilies on a certain lake doubles every two days. If there is exactly one water lily on the lake, it takes 60 days for the lake to be fully covered with water lilies. In how many days will the lake be fully covered with lilies, if initially there were two water lilies on it?


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Hi @Bunuel/ BrentGMATPrepNow,

Not sure if my approach is okay but the way I picture this -

For one Lilly -
Day 1 - 1
Day 2 - 2^2*1
Day 3 - 2^2*1
Day 4 - 2^3*1
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Day 60 - 2^59*1 (which we know constitutes a filled lake) -----(1)

Thus for 2 lilies increasing at a rate -
Day 1 - 2
Day 2 - 2^2*2
Using (1) => 2 lilies will be same as 2^59 or a filled lake if 2^58*2. This implies it will take 58 days for 2 lilies.

Please advise.


That approach works perfectly.
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The number of water lilies on a certain lake doubles every two days. If there is exactly one water lily on the lake, it takes 60 days for the lake to be fully covered with water lilies. In how many days will the lake be fully covered with lilies, if initially there were two water lilies on it?

(A) 15
(B) 28
(C) 30
(D) 58
(E) 59


Solution:

Since 60 days is a “long” period of time in terms of doubling. Let’s say it only takes 6 days for the lake to be fully covered with water lilies. That is,

Day 0 = 1

Day 2 = 2

Day 4 = 4

Day 6 = 8

Now, if initially there are 2 water lilies in the lake, we have:

Day 0 = 2

Day 2 = 4

Day 4 = 8

We see that it takes 2 fewer days for the lake to be fully covered with water lilies had the initial number of lilies been 2. Therefore, it will take 58 days for the lake to be fully covered with water lilies if the initial number of lilies is 2.

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