Hey mbainvestor,
Great post. I was wondering whether you could elaborate on the types of people who do well
Columbia and especially its value investing focus. I also have some personal questions I was wondering if you could opine on.
I'm going to be frank here and say that I come from the financial services industry and was admitted to Columbia class of 2016. I worked in p/e beforehand. Honestly I'm not in love with finance. the people I know who are the best at hedge funds/investment management are those who live and breathe the markets. they are excited by the econometric indicators, the unemployment reports, research commodities, and follow stocks on their own. They research their own investments in their spare time and love doing analysis on finding undervalued stock. one friend took a trip to Asia in order to visit a factory that produced goods in order to research a stock for his own portfolio. In short, these are the people who have a passion for investing, have the smarts, and end up succeeding @ either big name funds or starting up their own small shop and becoming a PM.
Now my question is, what % of people at Columbia are like that, and do you think this passion is necessary for someone going into the industry? From a p/e background I have become sort of disgruntled for finance, but I realize that it certainly pays well and to take on $200k worth of debt, forgoing salary for 2 years, attending bschool is going to be a crap ton of money especially when I could do well without it. Now I will attend bschool but I will either go into the startup route and try to create something (which I am leaning towards) but a part of me wants to just attend a top bschool, studying investments, and just try to work at some hedge fund after school and make $$. Sorry for the frankness but yes, I will be in a job I don't love but at least i'll have the Big Bucks to be happy.
Finally, I am skeptical of value investing, and probably strongly differ in your view. I believe in efficient markets and think that stocks reflect all publicly traded information. All the alpha that hedge funds generate are either through 1) "prestige/herding effect" of big name investors disclosing their holdings - i.e. Einhorn discloses 10% stake in XYZ and shares go up, Ackman says he sold his stake in XYZ and shares plummet, or 2) insider trading (you hear of all those tiger funds/ GLG inside-circle networks), or 3) pure luck. I really don't believe that getting 30% returns YoY is that impressive because 1) you got lucky with a bull market, 2) you took a considerable amount of risk.
So... yeah, any thoughts on the above? (maybe it's easier to chat in private and I can pm you). And finally, I'm happy to hear that you're enjoying your experience
Columbia. I'll be attending the Columbia Connect weekend and hopefully get a sense of the finance classes there.