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Re: If m^2 < 225 and n - m = -10, what is the sum f the smallest [#permalink]

24 Jun 2014, 10:22

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Hi,
i am getting -140 as the answer(none of the options:().
My calculations are as below:-
min value of m=-14,thus n=-24
max value of m=14,thus n=4

Smallest 3m+2n=3(-14)+2(-24)=-42-48=-90
Largest 3m+2n=3(14)+2(4)=50

Diff between smallest and largest=-90-50=-140

Can you please help ,what is wrong in my calculations.

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Re: If m^2 < 225 and n - m = -10, what is the sum f the smallest [#permalink]

24 Jun 2014, 11:00

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Not sure about the answer, but wanna try.

m^2<225 => |m|<15

n-m=-10 => m=n+10

As far as it is not mentioned that "m" and "n" should be integers => |m|=14,5

Calculating max value:
14,5=n+10 => n=4,5
3m+2n = 43,5+9=52,5 =>52 (as the smallest integer value)

Calculating min value:
-14,5=n+10 => n=-24,5
3m+2n = -43,5-49=-92,5 => -93 (as the smallest integer value)

Difference "min-max" = -93-52=-145

Hence "C"

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Re: If m^2 < 225 and n - m = -10, what is the sum f the smallest [#permalink]

24 Jun 2014, 11:36

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ankushbassi wrote:

Hi,
i am getting -140 as the answer(none of the options:().
My calculations are as below:-
min value of m=-14,thus n=-24
max value of m=14,thus n=4

Smallest 3m+2n=3(-14)+2(-24)=-42-48=-90
Largest 3m+2n=3(14)+2(4)=50

Diff between smallest and largest=-90-50=-140

Can you please help ,what is wrong in my calculations.

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Re: If m^2 < 225 and n - m = -10, what is the sum f the smallest [#permalink]

25 Jun 2014, 02:51

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Anyone else wants to try?

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Re: If m^2 < 225 and n - m = -10, what is the sum f the smallest [#permalink]

25 Jun 2014, 21:27

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Answer = D = -148

-94 - 54

= -148

\(m^2 < 225\)

m can be anything from -14.9 to + 14.9

Kindly refer chart below for detailed calculation:

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If \(m^2 < 225\) and \(n - m = -10\), what is the difference between the smallest possible integer value of \(3m + 2n\) and the greatest possible integer value of \(3m + 2n\)?

A. -190
B. -188
C. -150
D. -148
E. -40

This question is about algebraic manipulations with inequalities.

From \(n - m = -10\) it follows that \(n=m-10\). Thus, \(3m + 2n=3m+2(m-10)=5m-20\). So, we need to find the difference between the smallest possible integer value of \(5m-20\) and the greatest possible integer value of \(5m-20\).

Now, lets' work on \(m^2 < 225\):
Take the square root from both sides: \(|m|<15\);
Get rid of the modulus sign: \(-15<m < 15\);
Multiply all three parts by 5: \(-75< 5m < 75\);
Subtract 20 from all three parts: \(-95< 5m -20< 55\);

From \(-95< 5m -20< 55\) it follows that the smallest possible integer value of \(5m-20\) is -94 and the greatest possible integer value of \(5m-20\) is 54.

Therefore, the difference is -94 - 54= -148.

Answer: D.

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Re: If m^2 < 225 and n - m = -10, what is the sum f the smallest [#permalink]

10 Jul 2014, 11:16

Bunuel wrote:

ankushbassi wrote:

Hi,
i am getting -140 as the answer(none of the options:().
My calculations are as below:-
min value of m=-14,thus n=-24
max value of m=14,thus n=4

Smallest 3m+2n=3(-14)+2(-24)=-42-48=-90
Largest 3m+2n=3(14)+2(4)=50

Diff between smallest and largest=-90-50=-140

Can you please help ,what is wrong in my calculations.

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Hi Bunuel..
I did also the same way above mentioned and got -140. However I did understand the method which you have explained in the discussion but still want to clarify about the method which has been explained above...
Can you pls explain...whats wrong with above method???

Thanks in advance

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Re: If m^2 < 225 and n - m = -10, what is the sum f the smallest [#permalink]

10 Jul 2014, 11:21

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Bunuel wrote:

ankushbassi wrote:

Hi,
i am getting -140 as the answer(none of the options:().
My calculations are as below:-
min value of m=-14,thus n=-24
max value of m=14,thus n=4

Smallest 3m+2n=3(-14)+2(-24)=-42-48=-90
Largest 3m+2n=3(14)+2(4)=50

Diff between smallest and largest=-90-50=-140

Can you please help ,what is wrong in my calculations.

Solution for this question will be published by the end of the week.

By the way this question is a part of our NEW PROJECT.

Hi Bunuel..
I did also the same way above mentioned and got -140. However I did understand the method which you have explained in the discussion but still want to clarify about the method which has been explained above...
Can you pls explain...whats wrong with above method???

Thanks in advance

We are NOT told that m is an integer, hence from -15<m<15 saying that the minimum value of m is -14 and the maximum value of m is 14 is wrong.

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Re: If m^2 < 225 and n - m = -10, what is the sum f the smallest [#permalink]

14 Aug 2014, 23:30

its D -148

I did it in a following way

here n - m = -10

m = n+10

then 3m +2n = 3(n+10)+2n = 5n+30

so we need to findout max and minimum values of 5n+30

m^2 <225

put m= n+10
(n+10)^2 <225

solving this equation becomes
n^2 +20n -125 <0

(n+25)(n-5) <0

so here we have three ranges

n <-25
-25 <n <5
n>5

taking n>5 it becomes >0 so sequence will be +-+

now n will be between -25 <n<5

taking n= 4.9 . 5n+30 will have value 54.5 so integer value is 54
taking n = -24.9. 5n+30 will become -124.5+30 = -94.5 = -94(integer value)

so difference is 54 - (-94) = 148

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Re: If m^2 < 225 and n - m = -10, what is the sum f the smallest [#permalink]

27 Jan 2019, 02:58

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This is my approach:

as \(m^2 < 225\)
so \(-15<m<15\)
m can take any value from -15 to 15 (note m is not necessarily an integer so m can take any decimal value as well)
no \(n-m=-10\)
as by looking at answer options i can say that all options are quite apart so i would put minimum value of \(m=15\) and maximum value of \(m=15\) and the resulting answer would be slightly more than required answer value.
for \(m=15\), \(n=-25\)
for \(m=-15\), \(n=5\)
so minimum value of \(3m+2n=3(-15)+2(-25)=-95\)
maximum value of \(3m+2n=3(15)+2(5)=55\)
Difference=\(-95-50=-150\)

So the answer would be slightly less than \(-150\) and the correct option is D

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Re: If m^2 < 225 and n - m = -10, what is the sum f the smallest [#permalink]

17 Sep 2020, 11:34

Looking at the difficulty level of this question, it can be said that the question should never be the first or the second question on a gmat quant test, still this question showed up on the second number on Gmatclub quant mock test, pretty unrealistic..

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Re: If m^2 < 225 and n - m = -10, what is the sum f the smallest [#permalink]

18 Sep 2020, 12:20

I am getting -149 with m=14.9 and while moving from 14.9 to 14.95 it's getting close to -150.

Can anyone explain why not -150 ?

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Re: If m^2 < 225 and n - m = -10, what is the sum f the smallest [#permalink]

21 Sep 2020, 21:57

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Mayank221133 wrote:

I am getting -149 with m=14.9 and while moving from 14.9 to 14.95 it's getting close to -150.

Can anyone explain why not -150 ?

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Hey, you cannot take m=14.9 as that will give us n=4.9 (for calculating the largest value). 3m + 2n = 14.9*3+4.9*2= 54.7, which is not an integer. There for the max value that you can take is 14.8 and when you try it you will get the correct answer.
P.S the question explicitly mentioned smallest possible integer value and largest possible integer value.

Hope this helps!

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Re: If m^2 < 225 and n - m = -10, what is the sum f the smallest [#permalink]

26 Feb 2021, 16:49

=-15<m<15
=-15-10<m-10<15-10 (Subtracting 10)
==> -25<n<5 (From n-m=-10)

Now -45<3m<45 and -50<2n<10

Adding ===> -95<3m+2n<55

Max Value = 54
Min =-94
Difference = -148

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