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Dejected with Verbal - Help needed ! [#permalink] New post   22 Jul 2014, 12:46
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So, I am not really sure how this works, but I am a very serious candidate for GMAT. My target score is to clock around 750, since I need to apply to the top 10. I see people writing V37, does that mean they are actually getting 37 questions right out of 41 in Verbal? Because, if that's the case, I am supposedly doomed.

I have trouble with Verbal, something that peeves me, since I have clocked a 700/800 on GRE once, and 99.2 percentile in Verbal CAT (the Indian version of GMAT).

Critical Reasoning: I am following the Manhattan Strategy Guide for CR . As of now, I have completed the problem sets of Manhattan and have attempted the OG questions. My accuracy rate for CR is around 75 - 80%. So, is it a good accuracy rate? I would love to take it up to 90%, if not 100, so well, any suggestions?

Sentence Correction: I followed the SC Grail for SC and I am right now, working on the Manhattan strategy guide. My SC accuracy rate is a steadfast 70%, which according to me is pretty low. A friend of mine, wrote the GMAT last year and got a 740. According to him, SC questions shouldn't go wrong. Is he correct ?

RC: I am pretty much dependent on the novels and the newspaper that I read. Would start practicing this section soon.

I will write my GMAT on the 6th September and really, really want to fix these issues.

Some one please help !

Thanks,
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Re: Dejected with Verbal - Help needed ! [#permalink] New post   22 Jul 2014, 15:31
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First of all, do NOT feel that you have to get a 750 to get into a top 10 school. Average GMAT scores are going higher, but what I continue to hear is that super high test scores are not a guarantee or even a requirement of admission. You should maximize your score and realize that the GMAT is only part of the equation. Stated another way: you can still get into a top 10 school without a super high GMAT score.

With that out of the way, I will say that the GMAT is one part of the application that you can improve in a relatively short period of time. Your % accuracy is not a great predictor of score because your score is highly dependent on the difficulty of the questions. The best way to approximate your score is to take a practice CAT (we have practice exams that you have access to from purchasing our strategy guides).

Here is some general advice:
SC has some nice set rules that can be mastered. Learn how the GMAT applies grammar rules and deals with issues of meaning and you will be fine.
CR required solid process and a good understanding for logic. Learn the different question types and get plenty of practice.
RC requires good reading skills (focus on structure over details on the first read and read for detail when asked) and lots of practice - start now.

Complete a practice exam and let us know how it went.

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Re: Dejected with Verbal - Help needed ! [#permalink] New post   22 Jul 2014, 21:56
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bschool2k15 wrote:
Hi,

So, I am not really sure how this works, but I am a very serious candidate for GMAT. My target score is to clock around 750, since I need to apply to the top 10. I see people writing V37, does that mean they are actually getting 37 questions right out of 41 in Verbal? Because, if that's the case, I am supposedly doomed.

I have trouble with Verbal, something that peeves me, since I have clocked a 700/800 on GRE once, and 99.2 percentile in Verbal CAT (the Indian version of GMAT).

Critical Reasoning: I am following the Manhattan Strategy Guide for CR . As of now, I have completed the problem sets of Manhattan and have attempted the OG questions. My accuracy rate for CR is around 75 - 80%. So, is it a good accuracy rate? I would love to take it up to 90%, if not 100, so well, any suggestions?

Sentence Correction: I followed the SC Grail for SC and I am right now, working on the Manhattan strategy guide. My SC accuracy rate is a steadfast 70%, which according to me is pretty low. A friend of mine, wrote the GMAT last year and got a 740. According to him, SC questions shouldn't go wrong. Is he correct ?

RC: I am pretty much dependent on the novels and the newspaper that I read. Would start practicing this section soon.

I will write my GMAT on the 6th September and really, really want to fix these issues.

Some one please help !

Thanks,
Cornered Aspirant


Dear GMAT Aspirant,

First of all, check these links to get a sense of the scoring scheme of GMAT:
https://www.mba.com/india/the-gmat-exam/ ... eport.aspx
https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/2010/08 ... algorithm/

You get Verbal and Quant scores ranging from 0 to 60. These are raw scores and they combine to give you the total 200 - 800 score.
Q48 or V37 etc are raw scores on the 0 - 60 scale. They are related to how many questions you answered correctly but they do not reflect the number of correct answers. Your raw scores depend on many factors including number of question answered correctly, the level of questions answered, whether the section was completed on time etc.

With a 99.2%ile on CAT Verbal, you should be set in RC. I don't see you facing any problems in that area.
CR, again, should not be hard. Our CR book discusses the various question types and strategies you should use to handle them. A thorough read of it should be all you need to get a 90% accuracy in CR. Many posts on our blog discuss CR strategies. For example: https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/2014/05 ... -the-gmat/

Unfortunately, CAT Verbal does not prepare you for SC. But a 70% accuracy on it should be enough for 750 if your Quant is solid. The problem is that the collection of OG questions do not fairly represent the current crop of GMAT SC questions. Accuracy in meaning is a much bigger deal than it was a few years ago.
Check out our free SC video lesson to understand the current format: https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/free-gmat-lesson/
Many posts on our blog also discuss SC strategies. For example:
https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/2014/05 ... orrection/
https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/2014/05 ... -the-gmat/

Our blog (https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/) has numerous Quant and Verbal posts. Feel free to search through it to find posts in which you are interested.
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Re: Dejected with Verbal - Help needed ! [#permalink] New post   30 Jul 2014, 10:44
bschool2k15 wrote:
Hi,

So, I am not really sure how this works, but I am a very serious candidate for GMAT. My target score is to clock around 750, since I need to apply to the top 10. I see people writing V37, does that mean they are actually getting 37 questions right out of 41 in Verbal? Because, if that's the case, I am supposedly doomed.

I have trouble with Verbal, something that peeves me, since I have clocked a 700/800 on GRE once, and 99.2 percentile in Verbal CAT (the Indian version of GMAT).

Critical Reasoning: I am following the Manhattan Strategy Guide for CR . As of now, I have completed the problem sets of Manhattan and have attempted the OG questions. My accuracy rate for CR is around 75 - 80%. So, is it a good accuracy rate? I would love to take it up to 90%, if not 100, so well, any suggestions?

Sentence Correction: I followed the SC Grail for SC and I am right now, working on the Manhattan strategy guide. My SC accuracy rate is a steadfast 70%, which according to me is pretty low. A friend of mine, wrote the GMAT last year and got a 740. According to him, SC questions shouldn't go wrong. Is he correct ?

RC: I am pretty much dependent on the novels and the newspaper that I read. Would start practicing this section soon.

I will write my GMAT on the 6th September and really, really want to fix these issues.

Some one please help !

Thanks,
Cornered Aspirant



I have a similar problem with the SC part and my GMAT is earlier-20th Aug.

I wanted to know,if there could be a level of accuracy in SC,that could
be targeted.For example,one can expect a 100% accuracy in 600+ questions while,maybe a 70-80% accuracy for 700+ might be enough.
Hopefully if I can reach this accuracy level,I can cross V40,as I feel I am doing reasonably well in RC and CR.

Also,I have been practising from the OG as well as the OG for Verbal Review 2nd Ed.Is there any
way of segregating the SC questions based on difficulty in those books,so that i practice more
of the 700+ questions.
I saw someone mention in this topic,that the current OG is not quite representative of the SC questions that come up in the GMAT.
Could you tell me from where i can get questions that will reasonably be similar to the GMAT.I need a lot of practice on SC,so I need some sort of a SC question bank.

Waiting for your replies.
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Re: Dejected with Verbal - Help needed ! [#permalink] New post   30 Jul 2014, 21:17
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DebWenger wrote:

I have a similar problem with the SC part and my GMAT is earlier-20th Aug.

I wanted to know,if there could be a level of accuracy in SC,that could
be targeted.For example,one can expect a 100% accuracy in 600+ questions while,maybe a 70-80% accuracy for 700+ might be enough.
Hopefully if I can reach this accuracy level,I can cross V40,as I feel I am doing reasonably well in RC and CR.

Also,I have been practising from the OG as well as the OG for Verbal Review 2nd Ed.Is there any
way of segregating the SC questions based on difficulty in those books,so that i practice more
of the 700+ questions.
I saw someone mention in this topic,that the current OG is not quite representative of the SC questions that come up in the GMAT.
Could you tell me from where i can get questions that will reasonably be similar to the GMAT.I need a lot of practice on SC,so I need some sort of a SC question bank.

Waiting for your replies.


Try out our free question bank. You will get the latest in SC problems there: https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#-question-bank/

Other than our SC book, you can also search this forum for 700 level SC problems.

90-100% accuracy in 600+ level questions and about 70% in 700+ level questions should be enough if you are very comfortable with the other two - RC and CR.
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Re: Dejected with Verbal - Help needed ! [#permalink] New post   03 Aug 2014, 04:40
Thanks Karishma for the resources provided. :) :)

So,essentially what it means,is if I'm practicing,say sets of 5 questions of 600/medium difficult,i should have an accuracy of atleast 4.
And for hard/700+ ,roughly,i should get at least 3 correct out of 5.
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Re: Dejected with Verbal - Help needed ! [#permalink] New post   04 Aug 2014, 23:58
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DebWenger wrote:
Thanks Karishma for the resources provided. :) :)

So,essentially what it means,is if I'm practicing,say sets of 5 questions of 600/medium difficult,i should have an accuracy of atleast 4.
And for hard/700+ ,roughly,i should get at least 3 correct out of 5.


Yes, that's about right... give or take...
But keep in mind that the other two - RC and CR - should be solid.
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Re: Dejected with Verbal - Help needed ! [#permalink] New post   27 Aug 2014, 10:11
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DebWenger wrote:
Thanks Karishma for the resources provided. :) :)

So,essentially what it means,is if I'm practicing,say sets of 5 questions of 600/medium difficult,i should have an accuracy of atleast 4.
And for hard/700+ ,roughly,i should get at least 3 correct out of 5.


Yes, that's about right... give or take...
But keep in mind that the other two - RC and CR - should be solid.

Could u please provide a similar cutoff for the QA section.
Like what sort of accuracy should I maintain for 600+ DS questions and for 700+ DS questions to achieve a 50+ score in QA.I'm always struggling in the 47/48 region and don't seem to break the 50 barrier! :stupid :stupid
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Re: Dejected with Verbal - Help needed ! [#permalink] New post   27 Aug 2014, 22:12
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VeritasPrepKarishma wrote:
DebWenger wrote:
Thanks Karishma for the resources provided. :) :)

So,essentially what it means,is if I'm practicing,say sets of 5 questions of 600/medium difficult,i should have an accuracy of atleast 4.
And for hard/700+ ,roughly,i should get at least 3 correct out of 5.


Yes, that's about right... give or take...
But keep in mind that the other two - RC and CR - should be solid.

Could u please provide a similar cutoff for the QA section.
Like what sort of accuracy should I maintain for 600+ DS questions and for 700+ DS questions to achieve a 50+ score in QA.I'm always struggling in the 47/48 region and don't seem to break the 50 barrier! :stupid :stupid


Most of the 600+ questions should be correct (barring some silly mistake somewhere). For 700+ questions, around 60-70% accuracy should be there. Mind you, these are extremely vague figures. I am giving them to you only because you asked for an idea. The only thing these figures convey is that you cannot have most of 700+ level questions wrong and still score Q50.
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