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Idea is that possible radius is between two points: (1,-2) and (5,7)

5-1=4, meaning that point inside the circle is 4 numbers out of center (5,-2),
we should count it in Y axe in (5,7) direction, so -2+4=2 and radius is between 2 and 7.

7-2 =5 values of R, but 7 is out and maximal possible is 4

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The center of a circle is (5, -2). (5, 7) is outside the circle, and (1, -2) is inside the circle. If the radius, r, is an
integer, how many possible values are there for r?

does inside the circle means not on the circle ?

if no then (5,7) if lies on the circle then we should consider that point also.

than also total is 5

Please clarify and correct where m i wrong ?

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The center of a circle is (5, -2). (5, 7) is outside the circle, and (1, -2) is inside the circle. If the radius, r, is an
integer, how many possible values are there for r?

does inside the circle means not on the circle ?

if no then (5,7) if lies on the circle then we should consider that point also.

than also total is 5

Please clarify and correct where m i wrong ?

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r must be greater than 4 and smaller than 9, hence r=5,6,7 or 8. Answer A
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Re: The center of a circle is (5, -2). (5, 7) is outside the circle, [#permalink]
The radius can be 5,6,7 or 8. All these cases satisfy the two given conditions.

Originally posted by sasyaharry on 06 Jul 2017, 13:31.
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Given data :
R, the radius of the circle has to be an integer
Center of the circle (5,-2)
Point inside the circle (1,-2)
Point outside the circle (5,7)

Formula used :
Distance between 2 points (x1,y1) and (x2,y2) is \(\sqrt{(x1-x2)^2 + (y1-y2)^2}\)


Since a point inside the circle is (1,-2).
The distance from the center of the circle is \(\sqrt{(5-1)^2 + (-2+2)^2}\)(which is equal to 4)
The point outside the circle is (5,7)
The distance from the center of the circle is \(\sqrt{(5-5)^2 + (7+2)^2}\)(which is equal to 9)

Since we have found out the range of the radius which is 4 < R < 9
We have four values for R(5,6,7,8) (Option A)
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pushpitkc wrote:
Given data :
R, the radius of the circle has to be an integer
Center of the circle (5,-2)
Point inside the circle (1,-2)
Point outside the circle (5,7)

Formula used :
Distance between 2 points (x1,y1) and (x2,y2) is \(\sqrt{(x1-x2)^2 + (y1-y2)^2}\)


Since a point inside the circle is (1,-2).
The distance from the center of the circle is \(\sqrt{(5-1)^2 + (-2+2)^2}\)(which is equal to 4)
The point outside the circle is (5,7)
The distance from the center of the circle is \(\sqrt{(5-5)^2 + (7+2)^2}\)(which is equal to 9)

Since we have found out the range of the radius which is 4 < R < 9
We have four values for R(5,6,7,8) (Option A)



Hi pushpitkc,
i have one technical question :)
\(\sqrt{(5-1)^2 + (-2+2)^2}\)(which is equal to 4)

can you expand it how you got 4 ... after taking square root i get this (5-1) + (2+2) which is 8 :?
thank you :-)
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Hi pushpitkc,
i have one technical question :)
\(\sqrt{(5-1)^2 + (-2+2)^2}\)(which is equal to 4)

can you expand it how you got 4 ... after taking square root i get this (5-1) + (2+2) which is 8 :?
thank you :-)


Hey dave13 ,

\(\sqrt{(a)^2 + (b)^2}\) is not equal to \(a + b\)

You should always solve the equation first (meaning add \(a^2\) and \(b^2\)) and then take the square root.

Does that make sense?
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dave13 wrote:
Hi pushpitkc,
i have one technical question :)
\(\sqrt{(5-1)^2 + (-2+2)^2}\)(which is equal to 4)

can you expand it how you got 4 ... after taking square root i get this (5-1) + (2+2) which is 8 :?
thank you :-)


Hey dave13 ,

\(\sqrt{(a)^2 + (b)^2}\) is not equal to \(a + b\)

You should always solve the equation first (meaning add \(a^2\) and \(b^2\)) and then take the square root.

Does that make sense?


many thanks abhimahna :) yes it make totally perfect sence :)

\(\sqrt{(5-1)^2 + (-2+2)^2}\)(which is equal to 4)

so i get \(\sqrt{(4)^2 + (0)^2}\)

\(4 + 0\) = 4 :) fantastic :)
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Re: The center of a circle is (5, -2). (5, 7) is outside the circle, [#permalink]
Bunuel,
Can we tag this question to Co-ordinate Geometry.

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Can we tag this question to Co-ordinate Geometry.

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anik89 wrote:
The center of a circle is (5, -2). (5, 7) is outside the circle, and (1, -2) is inside the circle. If the radius, r, is an integer, how many possible values are there for r?

(A) 4
(B) 5
(C) 6
(D) 7
(E) 8



(5, 7) is outside the circle & r, is an integer -->>mean maximum radius is '8'
(1, -2) is inside the circle -->>mean minimum radius is 5

There are only 4 Integer from 5 to 8, ie 5,6,7,8 (possible values of 'r'. Thus answer is 4, ie A
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Bunuel

can you please help me on this question?

Can you confirm if a point "inside" a circle can never be on the edge of a circle? For example, for a square that is inscribed in a circle, the corner points would not be considered inside the circle?
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Re: The center of a circle is (5, -2). (5, 7) is outside the circle, [#permalink]
From which Official Guide does this question originate?

I can’t seem to find it in any of my Guides.

Good question, just curious.

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Bunuel

can you please help me on this question?

Can you confirm if a point "inside" a circle can never be on the edge of a circle? For example, for a square that is inscribed in a circle, the corner points would not be considered inside the circle?


I thought that "being inside the circle" means that the can be in the edge of the circle, that's why I considered that R could take 5 values: 4,5,6,7,8.

Having this question wrong, does it mean that "inside the circle" means that being in the edge of the circle is not "inside"???

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Also wonder whether its always the case that "inside the circle" can not mean "on the border" of the circle. In vs On the circle?

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Bambi2021 wrote:
Also wonder whether its always the case that "inside the circle" can not mean "on the border" of the circle. In vs On the circle?

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Hey Bambi2021, inside the circle means it is inside the circle. It can be lying along the borders but it can not be on the border.
Whereas 'On' the circle means it can only lie on the circumference of the circle. Hope this helps :)
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