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Re: An open-topped right circular cylinder with a volume of 72 cubic meter [#permalink]
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A right circular cylinder of 72 cubic meters is completely filled with water. If water evaporates from the cylinder at a constant rate of two liters per hour per one square meter of surface, how long will it take for 30 liters of water to evaporate?
(1) The height of the cylinder is 2 meters.
(2) The radius of the base of the cylinder is meters.


hi, can you please check the highlighted portion of the question. i think you have missed some value, if not then answer cannot be D. it has to be A.
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Re: An open-topped right circular cylinder with a volume of 72 cubic meter [#permalink]
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A right circular cylinder of 72 cubic meters is completely filled with water. If water evaporates from the cylinder at a constant rate of two liters per hour per one square meter of surface, how long will it take for 30 liters of water to evaporate?

(1) The height of the cylinder is 2 meters.

(2) The radius of the base of the cylinder is \(\frac{6}{\sqrt{\pi}}\) meters.

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To find the time needed for 30 liters of water to evaporate we need to find the surface area of the top of the cylinder: \(2*\text{area}\) will be the amount of water that evaporates each hour, thus \(\text{time}=\frac{30}{2*\text{area}}\).

On the other hand since \(\text{volume}=\pi{r^2}h=72\) then \(\text{area}=\pi{r^2}=\frac{72}{h}\). So, basically all we need is ether the area of the surface or the height of the cylinder.

(1) The height of the cylinder is 2 meters. Sufficient.

(2) The radius of the base of the cylinder is \(\frac{6}{\sqrt{\pi}}\) meters. From this statement we have that \(\text{area}=\pi{r^2}=36\). Sufficient.

Answer: D.



I have read your explanation but I couldn't follow it. How would the rate of evaporation be expressed.

2lts/hr/m^2..what I mean to say here is that when I express speed 100mph, I mean 100miles/1 hr
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davidfrank wrote:
A right circular cylinder of 72 cubic meters is completely filled with water. If water evaporates from the cylinder at a constant rate of two liters per hour per one square meter of surface, how long will it take for 30 liters of water to evaporate?

(1) The height of the cylinder is 2 meters.

(2) The radius of the base of the cylinder is \(\frac{6}{\sqrt{\pi}}\) meters.

M07-26


To find the time needed for 30 liters of water to evaporate we need to find the surface area of the top of the cylinder: \(2*\text{area}\) will be the amount of water that evaporates each hour, thus \(\text{time}=\frac{30}{2*\text{area}}\).

On the other hand since \(\text{volume}=\pi{r^2}h=72\) then \(\text{area}=\pi{r^2}=\frac{72}{h}\). So, basically all we need is ether the area of the surface or the height of the cylinder.

(1) The height of the cylinder is 2 meters. Sufficient.

(2) The radius of the base of the cylinder is \(\frac{6}{\sqrt{\pi}}\) meters. From this statement we have that \(\text{area}=\pi{r^2}=36\). Sufficient.

Answer: D.



I have read your explanation but I couldn't follow it. How would the rate of evaporation be expressed.

2lts/hr/m^2..what I mean to say here is that when I express speed 100mph, I mean 100miles/1 hr


Evaporation rate x is the amount of water that evaporates in 1 hour per square meter.
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Re: An open-topped right circular cylinder with a volume of 72 cubic meter [#permalink]
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davidfrank wrote:
A right circular cylinder of 72 cubic meters is completely filled with water. If water evaporates from the cylinder at a constant rate of two liters per hour per one square meter of surface, how long will it take for 30 liters of water to evaporate?

(1) The height of the cylinder is 2 meters.

(2) The radius of the base of the cylinder is \(\frac{6}{\sqrt{\pi}}\) meters.

M07-26


To find the time needed for 30 liters of water to evaporate we need to find the surface area of the top of the cylinder: \(2*\text{area}\) will be the amount of water that evaporates each hour, thus \(\text{time}=\frac{30}{2*\text{area}}\).

On the other hand since \(\text{volume}=\pi{r^2}h=72\) then \(\text{area}=\pi{r^2}=\frac{72}{h}\). So, basically all we need is ether the area of the surface or the height of the cylinder.

(1) The height of the cylinder is 2 meters. Sufficient.

(2) The radius of the base of the cylinder is \(\frac{6}{\sqrt{\pi}}\) meters. From this statement we have that \(\text{area}=\pi{r^2}=36\). Sufficient.

Answer: D.


Hi Bunuel

Sorry but I am unable to understand "two liters per hour per one square meter of surface"
why they have given this information and how to use it to calculate time?

eg. if we are given rate and distance we can find time=distance / rate
could you please explain in this terms, sorry to bother you but I am totally confused.

Thanks
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Bunuel wrote:
davidfrank wrote:
A right circular cylinder of 72 cubic meters is completely filled with water. If water evaporates from the cylinder at a constant rate of two liters per hour per one square meter of surface, how long will it take for 30 liters of water to evaporate?

(1) The height of the cylinder is 2 meters.

(2) The radius of the base of the cylinder is \(\frac{6}{\sqrt{\pi}}\) meters.

M07-26


To find the time needed for 30 liters of water to evaporate we need to find the surface area of the top of the cylinder: \(2*\text{area}\) will be the amount of water that evaporates each hour, thus \(\text{time}=\frac{30}{2*\text{area}}\).

On the other hand since \(\text{volume}=\pi{r^2}h=72\) then \(\text{area}=\pi{r^2}=\frac{72}{h}\). So, basically all we need is ether the area of the surface or the height of the cylinder.

(1) The height of the cylinder is 2 meters. Sufficient.

(2) The radius of the base of the cylinder is \(\frac{6}{\sqrt{\pi}}\) meters. From this statement we have that \(\text{area}=\pi{r^2}=36\). Sufficient.

Answer: D.


Hi Bunuel

Sorry but I am unable to understand "two liters per hour per one square meter of surface"
why they have given this information and how to use it to calculate time?

eg. if we are given rate and distance we can find time=distance / rate
could you please explain in this terms, sorry to bother you but I am totally confused.

Thanks
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Water evaporates from the top of a pool, which is open. We are told that 2 liters evaporate from each square meter of surface per 1 hour.

So, to find the time needed for 30 liters of water to evaporate we need to find the surface area of the top of the cylinder: \(2*area\) will be the amount of water that evaporates each hour, thus \(time=\frac{30}{2*area}\).

For example if the surface area of the top is 5m^2, then in one hour 5*2=10 liters of water evaporates hence it'll take 30/10=3 hours 30 liters of water to evaporate.
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Re: An open-topped right circular cylinder with a volume of 72 cubic meter [#permalink]
Dear Bunuel,

Please explain if this is correct? Total time is then = 30/2*area => 30/2*36 = 30/72=0.416 hour?

Many thanks again!


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davidfrank wrote:
A right circular cylinder of 72 cubic meters is completely filled with water. If water evaporates from the cylinder at a constant rate of two liters per hour per one square meter of surface, how long will it take for 30 liters of water to evaporate?

(1) The height of the cylinder is 2 meters.

(2) The radius of the base of the cylinder is \(\frac{6}{\sqrt{\pi}}\) meters.

M07-26


To find the time needed for 30 liters of water to evaporate we need to find the surface area of the top of the cylinder: \(2*\text{area}\) will be the amount of water that evaporates each hour, thus \(\text{time}=\frac{30}{2*\text{area}}\).

On the other hand since \(\text{volume}=\pi{r^2}h=72\) then \(\text{area}=\pi{r^2}=\frac{72}{h}\). So, basically all we need is ether the area of the surface or the height of the cylinder.

(1) The height of the cylinder is 2 meters. Sufficient.

(2) The radius of the base of the cylinder is \(\frac{6}{\sqrt{\pi}}\) meters. From this statement we have that \(\text{area}=\pi{r^2}=36\). Sufficient.

Answer: D.
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Dear Bunuel,

Please explain if this is correct? Total time is then = 30/2*area => 30/2*36 = 30/72=0.416 hour?

Many thanks again!


Bunuel wrote:
davidfrank wrote:
A right circular cylinder of 72 cubic meters is completely filled with water. If water evaporates from the cylinder at a constant rate of two liters per hour per one square meter of surface, how long will it take for 30 liters of water to evaporate?

(1) The height of the cylinder is 2 meters.

(2) The radius of the base of the cylinder is \(\frac{6}{\sqrt{\pi}}\) meters.

M07-26


To find the time needed for 30 liters of water to evaporate we need to find the surface area of the top of the cylinder: \(2*\text{area}\) will be the amount of water that evaporates each hour, thus \(\text{time}=\frac{30}{2*\text{area}}\).

On the other hand since \(\text{volume}=\pi{r^2}h=72\) then \(\text{area}=\pi{r^2}=\frac{72}{h}\). So, basically all we need is ether the area of the surface or the height of the cylinder.

(1) The height of the cylinder is 2 meters. Sufficient.

(2) The radius of the base of the cylinder is \(\frac{6}{\sqrt{\pi}}\) meters. From this statement we have that \(\text{area}=\pi{r^2}=36\). Sufficient.

Answer: D.

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Re: An open-topped right circular cylinder with a volume of 72 cubic meter [#permalink]
2 Litre ----- 1 m^2 ------1 hour
72 Litre---- 36 m^2 -----36 hour [36 m^2 is the area that can be calculated from either 1 or 2]
30 Litre---- ---------------x

x = (30*36)/72

What is wrong with this Bunuel.

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Okay, I can see my error
The highlighted part will be 1 hour only
72 Litre ----------36 m^2-----------1 hour
30 Litre-------------------------------30/72=.416 hour

Am I right Bunuel ?
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Many thanks Bunuel as usual!!!
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Forget conventional ways of solving math questions. In DS, Variable approach is the easiest and quickest way to find the answer without actually solving the problem. Remember equal number of variables and independent equations ensures a solution.

A right circular cylinder of 72 cubic meters is completely filled with water. If water evaporates from the cylinder at a constant rate of two liters per hour per one square meter of surface, how long will it take for 30 liters of water to evaporate?

(1) The height of the cylinder is 2 meters.

(2) The radius of the base of the cylinder is 6π √ meters.

In the original condition, there are 2 variables (r,h) from rh=72, and we are given 2 conditions from the conditions when we only need one more equations to solve for the variables; there is high chance (D) will be our answer.
From condition 1, we get the area of the base when the height is given. As 2 liters are evaporated per square meter, we get get 30 liters from the ratio to the total evaporated liters. This is sufficient.
From condition 2, it is sufficient as condition 1, so the answer is (D).
There are many cases in which (D) is the answer when condition 1)=condition 2).

For cases where we need 1 more equation, such as original conditions with “1 variable”, or “2 variables and 1 equation”, or “3 variables and 2 equations”, we have 1 equation each in both 1) and 2). Therefore, there is 59 % chance that D is the answer, while A or B has 38% chance and C or E has 3% chance. Since D is most likely to be the answer using 1) and 2) separately according to DS definition. Obviously there may be cases where the answer is A, B, C or E.
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Another way to look at this problem in terms if units.

Only difficult part in this problem is to simplify this : " If water evaporates from the cylinder at a constant rate of two liters per hour per one square meter of surface."

So , above information is rate(R) and we know that Rate x Time = Word done.

R = \(\frac{2L}{hr/m^2}\)
==> \(\frac{2L}{hrm^2}\) x Time = Word done(30L)

==> Time = \(\frac{30L m^2}{2L}\) hr

Now cancel out L from Numerator and Denominator and in order to cancel \(m^2\) we need to have area in denominator also so we will divide this expression by \(\pi r^2\) \(m^2\) (Since water is evaporating only from the open top surface,which is a circle)

So now Time = \(\frac{30}{2*\pi r^2}\) hr----------(1)

V(72) = \(\pi r^2 h\)

St 1 : Height is given.We can calculate \(r^2\) and replace this value in equation 1 - Sufficient.
St 2 : Radius is given directly. Sufficient .


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Took me a while to understand why we multiply 2 by the area in the denominator.

So for anyone else in the same boat here's what helped me in more clearer terms:

Time = Work/ Rate

Rate = 2litres per 1 square metre of Surface per 1 hour

Work = 30 litres

Therefore Time = 30 / (2 litres* X Square Metres of Surface)

X is what we determine and the missing piece of info.
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