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Set S includes elements {8, 2, 11, x, 3, y} and has a mean of 7 and a median of 5.5. If x < y, then which of the following is the maximum possible value of x?

A. 0
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Originally posted by Abdulla on 28 Apr 2009, 19:47.
Last edited by Bunuel on 13 Jul 2014, 04:26, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Set S includes elements {8, 2, 11, x, 3, y} and has a mean [#permalink] New post   29 Apr 2009, 08:59
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First, reach to the point of getting the equation : x + y = 18
It should take about 20 seconds.

Then Substitute the answer choices into the equation.
I don't know what the answer choices in this case are.
But I'm sure, you would be able to eliminate at least 2 or 3 answer choices. (about 10 seconds).

Say you are left with 2 answer choices. (If you are short on time, guess One of the two and you'll have a 50% probability of getting it right.)

The Median (of 6 numbers) = 5.5. See if the AVERAGE of any two numbers among (2,3,8,11) results in the median. In this case, it does for 3 and 8. (15 seconds).
Once you know that the numbers that contribute towards Median are 3 and 8, and not x or y, then given x < y, x ≤ 3. (about 10 seconds)

In less than a minute, you have the Correct answer.
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Re: Set S includes elements {8, 2, 11, x, 3, y} and has a mean [#permalink] New post   01 May 2009, 13:33
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Abdulla wrote:
Set S includes elements {8, 2, 11, x, 3, y} and has a mean of 7 and a median of 5.5. If x < y, then which of the following is the maximum possible value of x?

OA is 3


If any one knows how to solve this problem fast please share it.

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Using the fact that the mean is 7, then x+y = 18. Since x and y are different, one must be less than 9, the other greater than 9. Since x is smaller than y, we know that x < 9.

Now we need to use the median, which is the average of the two middle elements. Say x is greater than 3. Then we will have (since y is larger than 9), the elements x and 8 in the middle of our set, and the median will be (8 + x)/2. If x is greater than 3, then this will be larger than 11/2 = 5.5, so x cannot be greater than 3. Can x be exactly equal to 3? Sure. Then y = 15. So the largest possible value for x is 3.
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Re: Set S includes elements {8, 2, 11, x, 3, y} and has a mean [#permalink] New post   11 Sep 2015, 01:55
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2,3,8,11 and x,y

we are asked maximal x, so can start backsolving from E. If x=4 it will be 3th term and median=4+8/2=6, so out.
If x=3, median=3+8/2=5.5, so right

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Re: Set S includes elements {8, 2, 11, x, 3, y} and has a mean [#permalink] New post   10 Dec 2016, 18:13
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All solutions mentioned above are confusion below one seems to be very understandble.

You could also say that since the mean is 7, x + y = 18. Since we have an even number of terms in the set, the median must be the average of the two middle numbers. Our possibilities are

(x + y)/2 = 5.5
(3 + 8)/2 = 5.5
(x + 8)/2 = 5.5

The first one doesn't work, as it contradicts our equation above (that x + y = 18).

If x = 3, the other two both work, so x = 3 is a possible solution. x > 3 is not, as we won't have a median of 5.5, so we're set!
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Re: Set S includes elements {8, 2, 11, x, 3, y} and has a mean [#permalink] New post   09 Apr 2018, 21:33
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Abdulla wrote:
Set S includes elements {8, 2, 11, x, 3, y} and has a mean of 7 and a median of 5.5. If x < y, then which of the following is the maximum possible value of x?

A. 0
B. 1
C. 2
D. 3
E. 4



{8, 2, 11, x, 3, y} ~ {(x,y),2,3,8,11} : Mean = 7
So sum of values = 7*6 = 42
8+2+11+x+3+y = 42
x+y = 42-24 = 18
(x,y) can be (1,17), (2,16), (3,15), ......................, (9,9)

median = 5.5
Since there are even number of items in the set, so the median will be average of mid numbers.
So, average of 3, 8 = 5.5 . hence mid numbers must be 3,8
Also x<y , so x will be on left side of 3 and y will be on right side of 8.

So, x must be less than or equal to 3 and y must be greater than or equal to 8.
Since we need to find the maximum value of x .. x= 3 and y = 15

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Set S includes elements {8, 2, 11, x, 3, y} and has a mean [#permalink] New post   10 Dec 2021, 22:24
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Abdulla wrote:
Set S includes elements {8, 2, 11, x, 3, y} and has a mean of 7 and a median of 5.5. If x < y, then which of the following is the maximum possible value of x?

OA is 3


If any one knows how to solve this problem fast please share it.

Thanks..


Using the fact that the mean is 7, then x+y = 18. Since x and y are different, one must be less than 9, the other greater than 9. Since x is smaller than y, we know that x < 9.

Now we need to use the median, which is the average of the two middle elements. Say x is greater than 3. Then we will have (since y is larger than 9), the elements x and 8 in the middle of our set, and the median will be (8 + x)/2. If x is greater than 3, then this will be larger than 11/2 = 5.5, so x cannot be greater than 3. Can x be exactly equal to 3? Sure. Then y = 15. So the largest possible value for x is 3.


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If x = 3, the set will include two values which are 3. Can a set have duplicate values ?
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Re: Set S includes elements {8, 2, 11, x, 3, y} and has a mean [#permalink] New post   11 Dec 2021, 01:59
AbhiroopGhosh If it is explicitly not mentioned distinct value then yes, it can have duplicate value.
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AbhiroopGhosh wrote:
If x = 3, the set will include two values which are 3. Can a set have duplicate values ?


That's a good point -- no, a mathematical set cannot contain repeated values. That's not something you actually need to know for the GMAT; most similar GMAT questions will talk about "lists" or "data sets", both of which can contain repeated values, and when the GMAT talks about a set without mentioning repeated values, you'll get the same answer whether you permit them or not. Prep company questions on the other hand are often careless about the definition of a set, and this is one example (and because it's a prep company question, I didn't even consider that technicality when I posted the solution you quote).
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